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Been experimenting with mixing this Astora greatsword pyromancer build with dark miracles since i Just picked up Gnaw. It's kinda decent depending on resistances. Making some progress finally after taking a break for a bit.

Which ones are you farming? Try the ones after sullyvan if you arnt already

Also the guy using gnaw, wait til you get dorhys gnawing. It's probably one of the best damaging miracles in the game.

Yea its gonna be awesome. Need that and the dark pyro spells.

Zellion wrote:Which ones are you farming? Try the ones after sullyvan if you arnt already

Also the guy using gnaw, wait til you get dorhys gnawing. It's probably one of the best damaging miracles in the game.

AND it's in boreal valley, pretty ez

Zellion wrote:Also the guy using gnaw, wait til you get dorhys gnawing. It's probably one of the best damaging miracles in the game.

In terms of damage output it's great. It hits hard as shit for its cost in FP/Stam. Plus the bleed stacks it adds are insane.

I don't know about "best" though. It's just so.damn.slow. to come out you're getting to get whomped if you try to use it much in PVP.

In the end my PRAISE THE DARK spell loadout was Great Deep Soul, Affinity, and Dark Edge. It works pretty damn well and catches a lot of people off guard. Great Deep Soul is your standard pew pew. Affinity is your shotgun/tech trap. Dark Edge is the surprise GOTCHA BITCH people don't expect that flatlines them when you're mixing it up in melee range.

An0n3 wrote:

Zellion wrote:Also the guy using gnaw, wait til you get dorhys gnawing. It's probably one of the best damaging miracles in the game.

In terms of damage output it's great. It hits hard as shit for its cost in FP/Stam. Plus the bleed stacks it adds are insane.

I don't know about "best" though. It's just so.damn.slow. to come out you're getting to get whomped if you try to use it much in PVP.

In the end my PRAISE THE DARK spell loadout was Great Deep Soul, Affinity, and Dark Edge. It works pretty damn well and catches a lot of people off guard. Great Deep Soul is your standard pew pew. Affinity is your shotgun/tech trap. Dark Edge is the surprise GOTCHA BITCH people don't expect that flatlines them when you're mixing it up in melee range.

For the life of me, I could not think of a moment in PVP where you could even cast dorhy's gnawing, really. Maybe with some faster casting rings?

When someone is completely unaware of you, or very far away and closing.

Yeah, unfortunately it's very niche. I mean, if it could cast faster its utility and power in PVP would be pretty stupid. Everyone would be bitching about it all the time.

I mostly meant pve, the only miracle you might hit someone with in pvp is sunlight spear, and we all know how much damage those do

Zellion wrote:I mostly meant pve, the only miracle you might hit someone with in pvp is sunlight spear, and we all know how much damage those do

what? ah shit my cult build fucking sucks then

All the cool stuff is lackluster, welcome to dark souls. Either have fun doing cosplay or wear havels with a darksword.

Zellion wrote:All the cool stuff is lackluster, welcome to dark souls. Either have fun doing cosplay or wear havels with a darksword.

sounds like someone misses poise. My fuckin' friend has been sending me poise memes through discord for TOO DAMN LONG.

Been trying out the dancer's enchanted swords and they're pretty fun if you have the stats for them. Course, if we're talking about PvE, spam crystal soul spears to win I say.

Armhulen wrote:

Zellion wrote:All the cool stuff is lackluster, welcome to dark souls. Either have fun doing cosplay or wear havels with a darksword.

sounds like someone misses poise. My fuckin' friend has been sending me poise memes through discord for TOO DAMN LONG.

As fun as it was to be giant dad, I don't miss poise that much. I still manage to win decently with my heavy weapon master race.

"WAAAAAAAAH YOU MEAN I CANT JUST STAND THERE AND TANK HITS WHILE SPAMMING UGS ATTACKS ANYMORE?
COMBAT IS RUINED FUCK THIS GAME FUCK YOU FROM TURN POISE BACK ON WAAAAAAAAAAAH"

t. Dark Souls PVP Experts

Zellion wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

Zellion wrote:All the cool stuff is lackluster, welcome to dark souls. Either have fun doing cosplay or wear havels with a darksword.

sounds like someone misses poise. My fuckin' friend has been sending me poise memes through discord for TOO DAMN LONG.

As fun as it was to be giant dad, I don't miss poise that much. I still manage to win decently with my heavy weapon master race.

Curious, what's your favourite weapon of the heavy category? Personally I liked morne's greathammer, and have heard good things about farron's greatsword but haven't gotten far on heavy in PvP, more of a halberd fan myself.

Okand37 wrote:

Zellion wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

Zellion wrote:All the cool stuff is lackluster, welcome to dark souls. Either have fun doing cosplay or wear havels with a darksword.

sounds like someone misses poise. My fuckin' friend has been sending me poise memes through discord for TOO DAMN LONG.

As fun as it was to be giant dad, I don't miss poise that much. I still manage to win decently with my heavy weapon master race.

Curious, what's your favourite weapon of the heavy category? Personally I liked morne's greathammer, and have heard good things about farron's greatsword but haven't gotten far on heavy in PvP, more of a halberd fan myself.

I used Vordt's mace through the game because I liked the style and the damage was good, then I swapped to lorian's greatsword, and I've swapped to gundyr's halberd because its literally the best weapon in the game.

Curved greatswords are stupid because their combo does ridiculous amounts of damage and is really, really easy to hit-confirm. I don't know if they have (or will) nerf that but it's something they should consider. IMO probably the best weapons in the game right now because of that.

Gundyr's Halberd and the Astora Greatsword both get a lot of play because their weapon art is so crazy and a lot of shitters don't see it coming or know how to handle it. Clowndrill 2.0

EDIT: Forgot to mention that Morne's is also top-tier, yeah. Bigass hitbox and devastating critical damage. I don't know if Dragonslayer Swordspear is any good, I see a lot of people using it but the weapon art seems kinda shit to me and I don't think there's any jank about it that pushes it over the top.

Yeah, Gundyr's is my go-to weapon for PvP and some of PvE. Haven't seen Astora's, but I'm not all up to date on the latest meta of dark souls 3 and such.

It's a greatsword that has a charge attack. You run forward with it out and then thrust into stuff. Like a lance charge, you get multiple hits on your target as you run through them.

The only reason it's "good" is because people don't expect a greatsword to do that, so a lot of people end up eating it to the face. Against people who recognize it it's nowhere near as potent.

Sounds like how the blackknight greatsword should be, or atleast is in the hands of black knights. I've seen a lot of people with drakeblood and other lightning (buffed) weapons doing PvP in the watery area near Archdeacon McDonnell recently as well. I've actually gotten my ass handed to me by a spare lightning bolt from the dragonslayers spear in a big mess between an invader, a mound maker, myself(aldrich spirit), 2 phantoms and a host.

Well the reason for using the Astora Greatsword with the Pyromancer/Swordsman hybrid build is becuase of it's really strong int and faith scaling when using a chaos gem.

Do you think using black serpent goes away from my build too much?

If that's the dark ass chasing pyromancy it's fine probably. You want cultist right?

Zellion wrote:If that's the dark ass chasing pyromancy it's fine probably. You want cultist right?

Nar'Sie Cultist

There's no blood spells so the best you can do is dark tbh

>playing dank souls with a friend
>another friend joins in
>just kidding he's taking fucking forever to put down his fucking sign
>host of embers uses dried finger
>Friendly Invader has invaded!
>[I am reserving this space for when I find a GIF of that standoff from the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly with phantom color schemes, bonus points if they throw in that excited wrestler dude for the mad phantom.]
>he waves
>i wave
>friend swings at him like a fuckwit
>he doesn't connect through internet sorcery
>he doesn't swing back
>i'm waving like mad
>we establish that he MIGHT be friendly
>helps us get through those stupid fucking crabs
>sheesh this swamp fucking sucks
>oh no a watchfucker of fucking faggot ass piece of shit fucking asshole cunt griefer covenant has invaded because he wants to fucking sealclub in a newbie zone but is too lazy to use his fucking-
>okay back on topic this faggot invades
>dogpile that cocksucker
>he naturally runs like a fucking twat
>fuck this guy
>another fucker invades
>"alright it's 2v3 i better run in and spam parry! i'm sure to kill at least one guy!"
>invader gets fucking wasted instantly
>watchcunt immediately turns tail and runs again "i'm getting that swordgrass if it takes me the same amount of time it'd take to get three swordgrass!"
>fuck you, watchbitch
>friendly invader accidentally falls to his death like a colossal fucking idiot
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>shriek in horror as i watch him plunge into the dark
>shed tears for an american hero
>run back to my buddy, who is slightly less shaken
>finally asshole #2 gets his fucking sign down and is summoned as a sunbro, which couldn't be further from the fucking truth
>Invaded by Friendly Invader!
>HOLY FUCK HE'S BACK
>resume dogpiling on the """loyal""" spirit
>another invader invades
>insanity
>area has live mobs
>they try running through ghrus
>fuck
>chase
>notice Friendly Invader keeps swapping to invader disguise to run through mobs
>autist #2 picks up on this and starts screaming about attacking him
>we finally corner those fucking invaders
>"give it up, invader! it's ov-"
>friendly invader runs the host through from behind
>"OH FUCK YOU GUYS HE LITERALLY BACKSTABBED ME"
>plead with my allies that it was surely an accident
>autist #2 blows friendly invader's ass up with magic instantly
>well fuck i tried
>i'm out of estus
>try to fight these dickheads with my farron greatsword
>die

fuck watchcunts

Playing as DAT PURP you reach this kind of zenlike state of being able to dodge, parry or otherwise negate all kinds of attacks on you from no-fun idiots without losing your chill and without damaging them in the process.

No, I'm here to co-op with you whether you like it or not.

I want to surprise cuck an invader because it's hilarious.

Okay, I give up on the cult build.

The pickaxe is the best weapon.

People dodge around your first swipe and try to hit with their estoc, and then the realize you don't flinch and you're about to smash them

If you want to try something fun fist weapons are fucking amazing in DS3 because of their top-tier parry. Get that flaming demon fist and punch the shit out of people. It's more effective if you swap to something else for the actual riposte but if you want to have FUN just keep on punching.

I really enjoyed BLEEDMAN as well. It makes the most of out 2sword3edgy type loadouts.

I used hollow grave warden sword plus carthus rouge for farming and its a ridiculous amount of damage.

Zellion wrote:I used hollow grave warden sword plus carthus rouge for farming and its a ridiculous amount of damage.

That's the shit, fam. That's exactly the shit.

I'm gonna have to bump my strength enough to use the fists. I just got them last night. PYROMANCA PUNCHAN GAEM. It'll be even better once i get sacred flame to use as a finisher.

The storm curved sword isn't the greatest, but it never fails to put a grin on my face when you double r1 into the weapon art for that awesome combo.

An0n3 wrote:If you want to try something fun fist weapons are fucking amazing in DS3 because of their top-tier parry.

yep

Patch soon. Highlights are simple infusions getting BTFO as well as twinsword wombo combo getting nerfed.

D E M O N G R E A T A X E

>Casting speed buffs to miracles, more projectile speed given to Gnaw and Dohry's Gnawing (along with more bleed damage)
Unsure if this is true, haven't tested yet but apparently a lot of spells got altered cast speed and shit!

I wonder if they did anything to pyromancy. I finally got my black flame orbs and stuff. Gotta kill da pop and da giant.

you can no longer be hit when mid-spawning animation

a bunch of assholes tried it on me when i was invading and it bought me a whole fifteen seconds of time to run around and try to resist getting gangraped

EDIT:

Zellion wrote:>Casting speed buffs to miracles, more projectile speed given to Gnaw and Dohry's Gnawing (along with more bleed damage)
Unsure if this is true, haven't tested yet but apparently a lot of spells got altered cast speed and shit!

i had someone throw a gnaw at me and it was shockingly fast

that said evangelist gnaw speed still seems to be the same

I did test it, the cast is still kinda slow but the projectile is moderately fast, maybe on par with deep soul speed. Pretty good overall, I think they increased the damage and bleed too because god damn it's a great spell.

i am weirdly aroused by the sounds made by the pontiff knights' shoes

Zellion wrote:>Casting speed buffs to miracles, more projectile speed given to Gnaw and Dohry's Gnawing (along with more bleed damage)
Unsure if this is true, haven't tested yet but apparently a lot of spells got altered cast speed and shit!

i literally just deleted my cult build


JUST

Armhulen wrote:

Zellion wrote:>Casting speed buffs to miracles, more projectile speed given to Gnaw and Dohry's Gnawing (along with more bleed damage)
Unsure if this is true, haven't tested yet but apparently a lot of spells got altered cast speed and shit!

i literally just deleted my cult build


JUST

Never delete anything :^)

>get pretty good at crab-slaying due to alts
>killing crabs in the woods on my pyromancer, feeling pretty good
>no estus required
>get one-shot by silver knight
>oh jeez that's bad good thing i'm good at crab-slaying so getting back there's gonna be a cinch
>die to the crab right next to the bonfire, losing two levels of souls

that's what you get for being so shellfish

IcePacks wrote:>get pretty good at crab-slaying due to alts
>killing crabs in the woods on my pyromancer, feeling pretty good
>no estus required
>get one-shot by silver knight
>oh jeez that's bad good thing i'm good at crab-slaying so getting back there's gonna be a cinch
>die to the crab right next to the bonfire, losing two levels of souls

those fuckin' crabs are so easy in farron woods but the moment you go into the lake they just M U R D E R

Tried it, went back to DaS 1. Might try it again after they've patched it a few times. Just feels like a lot of stuff is kind of off compared to DaS. Also not a big fan of the new estus system and the whole losing a good chunk of your health when you die. I'll admit though, the levels look cool and it's good that they brought invincibility frames back.

Jacough wrote:losing a good chunk of your health when you die.

wat?

He obviously means the sin of having embers increase health instead of just allow you to summon and be invaded. Dark souls was a completely perfect game with no faults after all

comparing any game to dark souls 1 is a fucking wheeze

I STILL can't think of a game better than ds 1 and I've been playing ss13 for who fukken knows now how long

Another nana disappeared.
So the grandson carries a cage
He ever has his cage~
And nana's never coming back.
So come into the cage, and become nana's shade!