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EndgamerAzari wrote:Jesus, I just watched a video of the interactions you have with Burgerpants.

I have never related more to a character.

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ThanatosRa wrote:Sat down and started playing it. THis is hilarious and adorable. I couldn't help, with all I've heard about it, to ... Ic an't hurt anyone. I can't.

Ricotez wrote:big-ass spoilers intermingled with some theorycrafting

Spoiler:

as much as that comic is a shot in the feels... Sans' reaction would probably not be that extreme

Sans is aware that someone's been resetting the timeline over and over. that's why he is so lethargic over the course of the game, and combined with his promise to toriel it's why he won't fight you in neutral even if you kill papyrus. he knows that you can just reset anything he does anyway.

the only reason why he fights you in real genocide is because he's up to some level aware that you're about to make an irreversible mistake, and he tries to make the fight as hard and obnoxious as possible to make you ragequit.

Spoiler:

Exactly how much knowledge he actually has about the resets is not really known. He says they (meaning others are aware to some degree) are aware that "somebody" is messing with the timelines, but he doesn't actually know anything about Frisk or Chara on a direct level outside of whatever the active timeline is. That's why every interaction with them is just "a human" or "the human" or something otherwise vague. He does mention that any resolution is ultimately futile due to the infinite resets but I don't doubt that within any given timeline, he would at least be worried that his brother was doing something that cosmically stupid. He's lethargic, but he is also nearly omnipresent when his brother is involved. He knows a lot of shortcuts, you see.

I could probably do better speculation in a few hours. Wrote this after getting out of bed and checking my email.

cedarbridge wrote:

Ricotez wrote:big-ass spoilers intermingled with some theorycrafting

Spoiler:

as much as that comic is a shot in the feels... Sans' reaction would probably not be that extreme

Sans is aware that someone's been resetting the timeline over and over. that's why he is so lethargic over the course of the game, and combined with his promise to toriel it's why he won't fight you in neutral even if you kill papyrus. he knows that you can just reset anything he does anyway.

the only reason why he fights you in real genocide is because he's up to some level aware that you're about to make an irreversible mistake, and he tries to make the fight as hard and obnoxious as possible to make you ragequit.

Spoiler:

Exactly how much knowledge he actually has about the resets is not really known. He says they (meaning others are aware to some degree) are aware that "somebody" is messing with the timelines, but he doesn't actually know anything about Frisk or Chara on a direct level outside of whatever the active timeline is. That's why every interaction with them is just "a human" or "the human" or something otherwise vague. He does mention that any resolution is ultimately futile due to the infinite resets but I don't doubt that within any given timeline, he would at least be worried that his brother was doing something that cosmically stupid. He's lethargic, but he is also nearly omnipresent when his brother is involved. He knows a lot of shortcuts, you see.

I could probably do better speculation in a few hours. Wrote this after getting out of bed and checking my email.

Ricotez wrote:

cedarbridge wrote:

Ricotez wrote:big-ass spoilers intermingled with some theorycrafting

Spoiler:

as much as that comic is a shot in the feels... Sans' reaction would probably not be that extreme

Sans is aware that someone's been resetting the timeline over and over. that's why he is so lethargic over the course of the game, and combined with his promise to toriel it's why he won't fight you in neutral even if you kill papyrus. he knows that you can just reset anything he does anyway.

the only reason why he fights you in real genocide is because he's up to some level aware that you're about to make an irreversible mistake, and he tries to make the fight as hard and obnoxious as possible to make you ragequit.

Spoiler:

Exactly how much knowledge he actually has about the resets is not really known. He says they (meaning others are aware to some degree) are aware that "somebody" is messing with the timelines, but he doesn't actually know anything about Frisk or Chara on a direct level outside of whatever the active timeline is. That's why every interaction with them is just "a human" or "the human" or something otherwise vague. He does mention that any resolution is ultimately futile due to the infinite resets but I don't doubt that within any given timeline, he would at least be worried that his brother was doing something that cosmically stupid. He's lethargic, but he is also nearly omnipresent when his brother is involved. He knows a lot of shortcuts, you see.

I could probably do better speculation in a few hours. Wrote this after getting out of bed and checking my email.

tons of spoilers for one of the most obscure secrets in UNDERTALE - W.D. Gaster

Spoiler:

there are several hints that W.D. Gaster is related to Sans, and might even be who Sans refers to when he says "our reports" in his battle

the only way you can find out that W.D. Gaster even exists (or rather past tense, existed) is through EXTREMELY rare events that can happen during a normal playthrough, but you are better off messing with the game files if you really want to see them. several of those events are gray versions of certain character sprites that, when talked to, will tell you that W.D. Gaster was the royal scientist before Alphys, and he accidentally managed to scatter himself across the space-time continuum, more or less removing him from existence but leaving tiny snippers of himself all over the place.

much like Chara refers to powergamers and completionists, W.D. Gaster is a reference to "dummied out" content, in other words content that was removed from the game but not completely wiped, leaving little references

another one of Gaster's events has your screen fill with wingdings that, when translated, form the missing 17th log from the True Lab. wingdings is one of the "obnoxious fonts", like comic sans and papyrus. so W(ing)D(ings) Gaster may be his full name which also means Sans' and Papyrus' last name is Gaster as well

finally, the sprites for the skulls that fire beams at you in Sans' battle are called Gaster Blaster, and look very much like the Determination Extractor in the True Lab which probably belonged to W.D. Gaster before Alphys

DemonFiren wrote:

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Didn't Alphys build the extractor, though?

Also, it's curious that the Gaster Blaster skulls resemble Alphys' head at least a little.

cedarbridge wrote:

Ricotez wrote:

cedarbridge wrote:

Ricotez wrote:big-ass spoilers intermingled with some theorycrafting

Spoiler:

as much as that comic is a shot in the feels... Sans' reaction would probably not be that extreme

Sans is aware that someone's been resetting the timeline over and over. that's why he is so lethargic over the course of the game, and combined with his promise to toriel it's why he won't fight you in neutral even if you kill papyrus. he knows that you can just reset anything he does anyway.

the only reason why he fights you in real genocide is because he's up to some level aware that you're about to make an irreversible mistake, and he tries to make the fight as hard and obnoxious as possible to make you ragequit.

Spoiler:

Exactly how much knowledge he actually has about the resets is not really known. He says they (meaning others are aware to some degree) are aware that "somebody" is messing with the timelines, but he doesn't actually know anything about Frisk or Chara on a direct level outside of whatever the active timeline is. That's why every interaction with them is just "a human" or "the human" or something otherwise vague. He does mention that any resolution is ultimately futile due to the infinite resets but I don't doubt that within any given timeline, he would at least be worried that his brother was doing something that cosmically stupid. He's lethargic, but he is also nearly omnipresent when his brother is involved. He knows a lot of shortcuts, you see.

I could probably do better speculation in a few hours. Wrote this after getting out of bed and checking my email.

tons of spoilers for one of the most obscure secrets in UNDERTALE - W.D. Gaster

Spoiler:

there are several hints that W.D. Gaster is related to Sans, and might even be who Sans refers to when he says "our reports" in his battle

the only way you can find out that W.D. Gaster even exists (or rather past tense, existed) is through EXTREMELY rare events that can happen during a normal playthrough, but you are better off messing with the game files if you really want to see them. several of those events are gray versions of certain character sprites that, when talked to, will tell you that W.D. Gaster was the royal scientist before Alphys, and he accidentally managed to scatter himself across the space-time continuum, more or less removing him from existence but leaving tiny snippers of himself all over the place.

much like Chara refers to powergamers and completionists, W.D. Gaster is a reference to "dummied out" content, in other words content that was removed from the game but not completely wiped, leaving little references

another one of Gaster's events has your screen fill with wingdings that, when translated, form the missing 17th log from the True Lab. wingdings is one of the "obnoxious fonts", like comic sans and papyrus. so W(ing)D(ings) Gaster may be his full name which also means Sans' and Papyrus' last name is Gaster as well

finally, the sprites for the skulls that fire beams at you in Sans' battle are called Gaster Blaster, and look very much like the Determination Extractor in the True Lab which probably belonged to W.D. Gaster before Alphys

Spoiler:

The rabbit hole goes a little deeper when you find Sans's lab in Snowdin. It takes a lot of work to actually unlock since it requires at least 3 (or was it 4) no-kill runs. After this, Sans gives you a key to see what's in his room. In his room, there's another key which opens the lab. Inside the lab is an unfinished machine with a cloth over it (that you can't remove), several sets of blueprints for machines that you cant' comprehend, a photo with Sans, Frisk, and some others you don't recognize, and a badge of some sort. The description for the badge gives you actual indication as to what it actually is.

Either Sans is putting you on, or there's something else there.

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http://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale

Ricotez wrote:

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oranges wrote:Sans dies at the end

Ikarrus wrote:Also after I finished undertale I got pretty desperate for related stuff so I went ahead and got this made.



It's cute.