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Malkevin wrote:

ThanatosRa wrote:You know I.dont actually find straight dyke's face all that unattractive. It's weird.

She reminds me of the android from Dark Matter, who looks really good when she puts her hair down

My nigga

Funny how Vetra, the fucking space raptor, is the only LI who doesn't offer a friends with benefits route and is the most normal of them all.

Why is Bioware promoting fucking a bird/lizard?

Reptilian infiltrators promoting racemixing to prepare us.

>born too late to explore the Earth
>born too early to explore the galaxy
>born just in time to virtually fuck space raptors

I'm okay with this.

Why is Sara waifu status now again? I missed that bit

InsaneHyena wrote:Reptilian infiltrators promoting racemixing to prepare us.

Once, just once, I will be thought of as prescient.

DemonFiren wrote:

InsaneHyena wrote:Reptilian infiltrators promoting racemixing to prepare us.

Once, just once, I will be thought of as prescient.

We'll bang, okay?

Ew. No. Not you. Never.

WRECKED

Armhulen wrote:WRECKED

Wrex?

DrPillzRedux wrote:

Armhulen wrote:WRECKED

Wrex?

i've been had

They really dropped the ball when they axed manual saves in critical missions. Nothing turns me off more than losing the last half an hour of play because of this.

Luke Cox wrote:

Bolien wrote:Shit is so unoptimized.
I have a GTX 680 and can't get more than 10 FPS.

Coincidentally, I plan on buying a non-reference GTX 1080 TI as soon as they are out.

Full specs? Even for a poorly optimized game that's insane. I'm assuming you were running it on low.

Yeah I'm on low.

I got:

GTX 680
16GB Ram
Intel 3770k

Playing on a 1440p monitor.

Jesus Christ that is unacceptable. This game was made to run on 4 year old hardware, and has pretty shitty graphics as it is. In a normal XB1/PS4 port I'd expect your build to get a decent framerate on medium at least.

It runs like shit on consoles though, usually sub 30 FPS.

DrPillzRedux wrote:It runs like shit on consoles though, usually sub 30 FPS.

how can they get AWAY with this

They have a brainless, blind fanbase that will eat up whatever shit they're given. That's how.

Games are easy, you only have to make one good one in an established series and fans will follow you into the depths of hell regardless of how many people warn them of the coming fall.

It's not a trend that can continue for long though. Once upon a time, consoles had the huge advantage of "It Just Works(tm)" while having similar graphics and performance at a lower price point than PCs, along with the guarantee that it would last you for 5 or so years. All those advantages are gone this generation, and at the rate things are going they'll never possess them again. The PS4 and XB1 were less powerful than a mid-range gaming PC at launch, came at a higher price point than a PC of a similar performance level, and threw out It Just Works(tm) in favor of over-the-top DRM measures. Now we have have "elite" versions coming out with improved hardware, so even the longevity guarantee has gone out the window. The gap between PC performance and console performance is widening with each generation, and within one or two iterations, PCs are going to eclipse consoles in both price and performance. Add in the fact that PC gaming is even more idiot friendly than ever thanks to Steam and other similar services, the insanely lower cost of games, various other conveniences, etc. and it should be clear that a console market crash is inevitable. Casuals are going to use phones, tablets, or maybe Nintendo consoles, and hardcore gamers are going to use PCs.

I've always thought that console games and console players don't have the soul.

capi duffman wrote:In my work people are given 10 minutes top to eat, while I won't comment on the rest (EA doing the usual) that part points to a salty dude.

maybe if you live in the workers dystopia known as america, but this isn't normal or good for you. Why the fuck are you encouraging working to the bone to earn someone else a paycheck?

DrPillzRedux wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:

InsaneHyena wrote:Reptilian infiltrators promoting racemixing to prepare us.

Once, just once, I will be thought of as prescient.

We'll bang, okay?

Manslayer!

oranges wrote:

capi duffman wrote:In my work people are given 10 minutes top to eat, while I won't comment on the rest (EA doing the usual) that part points to a salty dude.

maybe if you live in the workers dystopia known as america, but this isn't normal or good for you. Why the fuck are you encouraging working to the bone to earn someone else a paycheck?

Even in the US, I'm pretty sure that's illegal as fuck.

oranges wrote:

DrPillzRedux wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:

InsaneHyena wrote:Reptilian infiltrators promoting racemixing to prepare us.

Once, just once, I will be thought of as prescient.

We'll bang, okay?

Manslayer!

actually i prefer the LA noire one

Luke Cox wrote:has pretty shitty graphics as it is

Actually, it looks surprisingly good. I'm on new game+ and haven't seen any questionable textures aside from humans.

http://imgur.com/a/5Jey7

DrPillzRedux wrote:

Luke Cox wrote:has pretty shitty graphics as it is

Actually, it looks surprisingly good. I'm on new game+ and haven't seen any questionable textures aside from humans.

http://imgur.com/a/5Jey7

yeah, what

animations/faces aside this game looks gorgeous

So basically the game looks and plays amazing but the story and animations are absolutely dogshit.

Just the combat plays well but pretty much

TheColdTurtle wrote:Human/Asari, cutscene walking animations are absolutely dogshit.

That's about it. Even totalcancer said the rest of the animations are fine. Animators got lazy and used an algorithm that creates animations for each scene based on the preset pattern (emotional, happy, sad, etc), instead of hand crafting. So MOST look like shit.

Weirdly enough, Turian's and other alien races have good facial animation.

DrPillzRedux wrote:

TheColdTurtle wrote:Human/Asari, cutscene walking animations are absolutely dogshit.

That's about it. Even totalcancer said the rest of the animations are fine. Animators got lazy and used an algorithm that creates animations for each scene based on the preset pattern (emotional, happy, sad, etc), instead of hand crafting. So MOST look like shit.

Weirdly enough, Turian's and other alien races have good facial animation.

jesus christ did none of them play spore

that's ridiculous

Bolien wrote:

Luke Cox wrote:

Bolien wrote:Shit is so unoptimized.
I have a GTX 680 and can't get more than 10 FPS.

Coincidentally, I plan on buying a non-reference GTX 1080 TI as soon as they are out.

Full specs? Even for a poorly optimized game that's insane. I'm assuming you were running it on low.

Yeah I'm on low.

I got:

GTX 680
16GB Ram
Intel 3770k

Playing on a 1440p monitor.

You mean your five year old gaming rig can't play something new at high resolution?
Who would've thought.

I made a mistake.
On the bright side, the weird shit I've seen thus far, glitches, animation, etc. It's all pretty damn fucking hilarious. Now that the disappointment is gone I can enjoy this hilarious mess.

Qbopper wrote:

DrPillzRedux wrote:

TheColdTurtle wrote:Human/Asari, cutscene walking animations are absolutely dogshit.

That's about it. Even totalcancer said the rest of the animations are fine. Animators got lazy and used an algorithm that creates animations for each scene based on the preset pattern (emotional, happy, sad, etc), instead of hand crafting. So MOST look like shit.

Weirdly enough, Turian's and other alien races have good facial animation.

jesus christ did none of them play spore

that's ridiculous

reminded me of spore

Malkevin wrote:

Bolien wrote:

Luke Cox wrote:

Bolien wrote:Shit is so unoptimized.
I have a GTX 680 and can't get more than 10 FPS.

Coincidentally, I plan on buying a non-reference GTX 1080 TI as soon as they are out.

Full specs? Even for a poorly optimized game that's insane. I'm assuming you were running it on low.

Yeah I'm on low.

I got:

GTX 680
16GB Ram
Intel 3770k

Playing on a 1440p monitor.

You mean your five year old gaming rig can't play something new at high resolution?
Who would've thought.

He should've gotten at least 30 FPS on the lowest settings. Like I said, this game is designed to run on hardware from 2013-2014.

https://www.masseffect.com/buy/system-requirements

they've gone on record stating the recommended specs are for 30fps at 1080p which is a weird way to do recommended settings, but when that's the estimate and you're using a 680 at 1440p then it's kinda just you being SOL

If it takes all that just to get 30FPS at 1080p in a game that is meant to run on mid-low range console hardware from 2013, then that is the worst optimized game I have seen in my life.

There's a huge different between PC presets and console presets, since consoles use unique hardware.

Also, PC gamer gave it an afterthoughts article. It sums up my feelings on Andromeda well. A good read.

It has too many flaws, too many gripes and inconsistencies to register as a classic. Yet all I can think as I step away from the Tempest after almost eighty hours with the game is that the first Mass Effect had flaws too, and Andromeda is better overall. This is a series that is defined by reinvention, and it has reinvented itself again. Andromeda 2, if it comes, would be an opportunity for that process to continue. I hope it does.

http://www.pcgamer.com/how-mass-effect- ... es-legacy/

Obviously the presets are different, but I would think that the lowest settings would at least be the equivalent of console settings. Theoretically speaking, any mid-range gaming PC from late 2013-early 2014 should be able to run console ports on low-medium at the very least.

Luke Cox wrote:Obviously the presets are different, but I would think that the lowest settings would at least be the equivalent of console settings. Theoretically speaking, any mid-range gaming PC from late 2013-early 2014 should be able to run console ports on low-medium at the very least.

The thing is, they spend A LOT of time doing console specific optimizations. If you took PC's low settings and put it on console it wouldn't even work.

DrPillzRedux wrote:

Luke Cox wrote:Obviously the presets are different, but I would think that the lowest settings would at least be the equivalent of console settings. Theoretically speaking, any mid-range gaming PC from late 2013-early 2014 should be able to run console ports on low-medium at the very least.

The thing is, they spend A LOT of time doing console specific optimizations. If you took PC's low settings and put it on console it wouldn't even work.

consoles have been doing this for years, luke, if you have the same hardware on every console then you can make things specifically for that hardware and you'll know it works on every unit that plays the game

that doesn't work for PCs

Qbopper wrote:

DrPillzRedux wrote:

Luke Cox wrote:Obviously the presets are different, but I would think that the lowest settings would at least be the equivalent of console settings. Theoretically speaking, any mid-range gaming PC from late 2013-early 2014 should be able to run console ports on low-medium at the very least.

The thing is, they spend A LOT of time doing console specific optimizations. If you took PC's low settings and put it on console it wouldn't even work.

consoles have been doing this for years, luke, if you have the same hardware on every console then you can make things specifically for that hardware and you'll know it works on every unit that plays the game

that doesn't work for PCs

I remember reading an article about emulation a few weeks ago that covered this sort of thing, the way that truly accurate software emulation of the SNES's hardware needs ridiculous processors, we're talking like 3GHz. It came down to shit like some of the later optimisations and trickery that coders would come up with, like doing things that required race conditions between different bits of hardware on the board and depended on shit like the rise time on the bus outputs and propagation delay and so on. tl;dr having a known set of hardware let them get away with doing shit that strictly speaking happened between clock cycles.

But... that's all changing. Consoles aren't like that any more, they don't get to do that kind of fucking around.

DrPillzRedux wrote:

Andromeda 2, if it comes, would be an opportunity for that process to continue. I hope it does.

http://www.pcgamer.com/how-mass-effect- ... es-legacy/

Well, it can't be any worse considering those that were responsible for getting the project into the sordid state it was no longer works there.

So, Ikky.
You said you'd hand out free copies to friends or something like that.
I wonder if there was anyone who wouldn't touch this even for free. By now it seems like either a halfway decent piece of not-quite-crap or an utter train wreck not even worth the disk space.

It's definitely worth a playthrough if you want something around $40 bucks, which is what it's going for. There's so much content in it. Easily 100 hours to get out of it.

Damn does it look beautiful sometimes too. Since it's on the Battlefield engine, your armor and guns get dirty the more you run around on a planet. I went from black to brown after fucking around on Elaaden.

Qbopper wrote:

DrPillzRedux wrote:

Luke Cox wrote:Obviously the presets are different, but I would think that the lowest settings would at least be the equivalent of console settings. Theoretically speaking, any mid-range gaming PC from late 2013-early 2014 should be able to run console ports on low-medium at the very least.

The thing is, they spend A LOT of time doing console specific optimizations. If you took PC's low settings and put it on console it wouldn't even work.

consoles have been doing this for years, luke, if you have the same hardware on every console then you can make things specifically for that hardware and you'll know it works on every unit that plays the game

that doesn't work for PCs

Actually, I should've mentioned that in my little console rant. What you're saying used to be true, even up to the previous console generation (PS3 especially was really fucking weird). This generation, they're using x84 CPUs and even the GPU is just a custom AMD card from what I understand. They're becoming less and less distinct from gaming PCs hardware-wise. Ports are way easier now if you give a shit.

the hardware being used changes nothing, dude

the part that lets them optimize so well is that you know the exact config in a console and you can't do that on a PC

like, did you not read my post at all

DemonFiren wrote:So, Ikky.
You said you'd hand out free copies to friends or something like that.
I wonder if there was anyone who wouldn't touch this even for free. By now it seems like either a halfway decent piece of not-quite-crap or an utter train wreck not even worth the disk space.

I'm all out of copies. Everyone I've given one said they at least had some fun with it, as flawed as it was. Multiplayer is more enjoyable than the single player, because you only get the good stuff (Combat) and none of the bad (Animations, writing)

Qbopper wrote:the hardware being used changes nothing, dude

the part that lets them optimize so well is that you know the exact config in a console and you can't do that on a PC

like, did you not read my post at all

Obviously you can make hardware-specific optimizations. Although if you have to rely on them to make something barely playable, you either have shitty hardware to work with (namely old consoles) or you just can't/won't optimize for shit. I could sympathize with the whole "tailored software" practice if the hardware being worked with is substantially different from PC hardware. Now, porting is trivial if you took the time to optimize your game. Instead, major publishers contract out the port work to third parties who do the bare minimum. My point with the whole "similar hardware" thing is that if you give a fuck, you can make a game that runs pretty smoothly on all platforms. See: Doom. People need to stop excusing this shit.

If it wasn't for the horrible animations, story and conversations that are questionable, terrible UI design that makes Witcher 3's original UI/Menus look great, and additional bugs, especially in multiplayer which can be infuriating. Also multiplayer could use some work as only a small handful of classes feel useful and very little weapons feel like they do any damage outside a handful of weapons.

This game would be pretty well be one the best games released for 2017 thus far. Hope some issues can get fixed and maybe Bioware can do something smart and not be dumb when they inevitably start DLC drops and maybe consider some free DLC content.

Who thought it would be a good idea to be able to make your character look like a clown?

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