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Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:15 pm
by dezzmont

Bottom post of the previous page:

I have the capability to craft blood collars, all pan actually get blood in EA, though I am not running mercenaries this early, because, you know, Pangaea, why the fuck do I need mercs?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:20 pm
by XSI
Exactly, so I just got shafted by random item gen

All I wanted was to site search
I guess maybe if I let him die to independents and then kill the independents I get the collar out of it? Not sure if that even works with a slave collar

If nothing else, I save everyone else the annoyance of bidding on him and getting useless

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:44 pm
by dezzmont
A real philanthropist you are. Meanwhile I outright gave up a throne to keep the game fun for our latejoin. So really I say we just give me a 50 turn pass on any invasions.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:20 pm
by cinless
Access to a mage without using a recruitment turn in a fort can be good no matter what nation you are. That and your units are terrible.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:15 pm
by dezzmont
Sure, if you wish to believe my troops are bad and thus you could rush me down, who am I to correct you?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:21 pm
by cinless
Oh no mine are worse. Maybe if I'd been able to design my own pretender, but if ifs and buts were tits and butts. We're pretty lucky in this game actually, mostly just low tier nations except Agartha, and he screwed the pooch anyway.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:22 pm
by dezzmont
I could explain to you in PM why you might be in error, we are essentially allies now.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:24 pm
by XSI
Everything can be great if you have enough magic

Magic!

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:30 pm
by Lumbermancer
I'm selling astral gems.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:05 pm
by ColonicAcid
cinless wrote:Oh no mine are worse. Maybe if I'd been able to design my own pretender, but if ifs and buts were tits and butts. We're pretty lucky in this game actually, mostly just low tier nations except Agartha, and he screwed the pooch anyway.
agartha is only non low tier at around turns 22-26~

agartha can then eat someone up entirely with their magic spike and hopefully use that advantage to tech up to late game spells. if they fail to do that they're donezo, may as well concede, they will achieve nothing with their piss poor units without any real advantages late game.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:21 pm
by cinless
That's not true, they can turtle in their caves until they hit lategame, then break the seal and make life miserable for everyone for a little while, then lose the game anyway

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:50 pm
by Incomptinence
Turtle in my cave? Maybe if I started in one sure. This map was kinda jank for me.

Frankly I know the optimal agartha stategy is to spam summons and blast (well the best spells they are likely to access are alteration so not much blast other than blade wind) with mages.
My whole thing with agartha is playing with their sub par units and seeing if I can work out something against the conventional wisdom.

Edit: Oh and yes I know about utterdark and burden of time. Both traps no one will let me keep up and my oracles are old anyway.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:51 pm
by cinless
To be fair it was a less than ideal map for Agartha

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:27 pm
by XSI
I've seen a total of one cave

And it is scarcely populated and bad

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:38 pm
by Incomptinence
Well I still wanted it.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:00 am
by ColonicAcid
BLITZUH???


ADDUH ME ON STEAMU
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ColonicAcid

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:55 am
by Lumbermancer
I just realized how shit my pretender is. I forgot to put any thought into his creation.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:03 pm
by cinless
can't be worse than mine

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:24 pm
by XSI
We should probably post our pretenders at some point, so we can give eachother tips on how to improve them. Of course only when you want to

Mine is boring but functional

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:09 pm
by ColonicAcid
Image

this is the meme king build for memers.

you can change L2D2 to L3D3 but i fucking hate rng and the damper on research sucks dingalingadongs so i dont do it.


you expand using frost giants and mass bless and they regenerate literally more health than the strongest indies can deal whilst dealing cold aoe damage because FUCK your face.

Late game you can transition to giant spam/thug fest if you really want. I dont really enjoy building a pretender that fills your weaknesses for Neifelheim. Abuse the fact that you have stupid early game and literally nobody can stand up to you. In terms of late game national spells you have one: Illwinter. Which is castabable by a jotun skratti with boosters. There's also one of your hero who has A4 which is helpful as shit to craft items. Your pretender could be used for all these things, but then you wouldn't have unkillable giants and why wouldn't you want that you IDIOOOOOOOOOT.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:12 pm
by XSI
>Meme build
>Not quadbless mictlan

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:40 pm
by cinless
Hey Yomi why you so free

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:51 pm
by ColonicAcid
XSI wrote:>Meme build
>Not quadbless mictlan
im talking about meme builds not crimes against humanity here buddy.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:37 pm
by XSI
Hey now, quadbless mictlan is a legit strategy

May only work when you're playing one on one and a small map, but it's great

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:50 am
by Preamble
@cinless
I'm not free. Who told you I am free?
Also >nobody has actually posted pretender yet.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:30 am
by cinless
i'm subbing i don't have the pretender file.
but why you so free tho

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 am
by Preamble
I will destroy you, cinless.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:46 pm
by cinless
come at me bro

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:05 pm
by XSI
Oh
Dear

I seem to have been attacked
Would you like to set a time and place for a good battle? Or would you prefer if we just sorta chase eachother around for a while?
Skip the foreplay?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:29 pm
by dezzmont
Revealing my pretender would tip my hand too much. I have made a few non-standard choices, though I am sure if you reverse engineer my pretender titles you could figure out a few of my magic paths.

Also, as the god of unnatural lust I demand you draw out foreplay and get really weird. Work vine shields and magic skulls into it!

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:12 pm
by Incomptinence
Thanks for the thought r'lyeh but it is over now.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:08 am
by Lumbermancer
Never be game over.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:05 am
by XSI
Dezzmont! We're doing the foreplay! Does this please you?
I've got the magic skull!

That said, Agartha - Nice attempt, but it was sadly too late. I do believe your early game was the issue here, as I thought a few times I'd be pretty screwed if you had a bigger force. But then you didn't seem to have that

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:11 am
by Incomptinence
The independents were overly beefy next to my capital and I attacked them too soon suffering unsustainable losses to my first army.

Sort of problem you don't have with an awake pretender but eh, gonna make what I want work or else. Was a fun little war liked the part were I almost took your fort.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:40 am
by XSI
Yeah, that was the point at which I thought I may actually lose that war

Lucky arrow on the leader though

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:01 pm
by Lumbermancer
Agartha don't you still have a fort? Are you under siege?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:13 pm
by Incomptinence
You can't recruit in a siege. At least in that province.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:18 pm
by Lumbermancer
Right, I'm asking if you're technically still in the game.

Because I could say something like: leave Agartha alone or I'll drop 200 air gems worth of Perpetual Storm on everyone.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:23 pm
by Incomptinence
Let me have my demise please.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:03 pm
by XSI
Thats a lot of air gems, you probably should be making owl quills with at least some of those

That said, nothing but respect for Agartha taking the good with the bad and not begging for a way out. I'll build a temple in your honour

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:21 pm
by cinless
are things as quiet as the forum suggests, or is there anything interesting going on? anyone at war? yomi still attacking solely with archers and no actual front line?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:42 pm
by ColonicAcid
i think yomi is trying to roleplay as ma man. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:06 pm
by XSI
I've just been told that surgery is tomorrow

This means I might not be able to actually be there tomorrow to put in my turn

Can we get the turn for tomorrow set to 2 or 3 days so I can?
Kinda an important moment in the war against Yomi

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:23 pm
by Incomptinence
Probably just set me to AI just got a few turns siege left.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:55 pm
by Lumbermancer
Probably?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:55 pm
by Lumbermancer
Incomptinence wrote:Probably just set me to AI just got a few turns siege left.

I'm afraid to say this page is a trick, since in fact there is no way to automatically set a nation to AI.


You need to set yourself to AI. I believe it's in the ESC menu?

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:03 am
by Lumbermancer
XSI wrote:I've just been told that surgery is tomorrow

This means I might not be able to actually be there tomorrow to put in my turn

Can we get the turn for tomorrow set to 2 or 3 days so I can?
Kinda an important moment in the war against Yomi
Extended to Sunday. I'm gonna submit my turn last so I can change it back to 24h interval.

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:27 am
by Preamble
>implying any of yomi's troops other than the shortbow goblins is worth recruiting

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:02 am
by ColonicAcid
u kinda dug urself into a weeaboo hole there by picking yomi.

pick a real nation... like neifelheim.. or formoria...

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:06 am
by XSI
Got some time before surgery, I've got... 40 minutes? Taking the turn! (But then will probably be off a few days after that)

Also, I was kinda worried I'd be fighting samurai there
But it turns out I'm just fighting a whole lot of squishy

Also shortbows are shit, longbows are good

Re: Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:18 am
by Preamble
>mfw colonicacid is too scrub to play anything but blessrush giants
i guess its to be expected of a blitz shitter.