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Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:33 pm
by Wyzack

Bottom post of the previous page:

I never realized how badly i want a Captain Falcon martial art in this game until this very moment

EDIT: U fuckers got me back in to this game now i will never conquer the old world. Playing a SWAT officer on a super dangerous world with lots of wilderness expanse. Looting the edges of a town trying to find a goddamn backpack so i can loot the guns i found in a basement. Also got a lucky combat knife, zombies get rekt by my Krav Maga now. SWAT armor is incredibly powerful early game, i would recommend the class to anyone struggling to get a start.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:55 pm
by Timbrewolf
Wolf lady is jabbing for 30+ damage
This is retarded.

I punched a brute so hard it flew backwards and smashed a window open.

When your strength gets high enough you can build a homewrecker and just smash through walls like the kool-aid man. Fuck your ID's and hacking computers. I see some bionics behind a glass wall, I'm just caving that shit in.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:02 pm
by Timbrewolf
Found a lab report that had plans for this in it

http://cdda.estilofusion.com/diamond_katana

I haven't built it (yet...?) but something about this is just fucking hilarious. FOLDED DIAMONDS HARDEST METAL KNOWN TO MAN

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:04 pm
by DemonFiren
An0n3 wrote: When your strength gets high enough you can build a homewrecker and just smash through walls like the kool-aid man. Fuck your ID's and hacking computers. I see some bionics behind a glass wall, I'm just caving that shit in.
We call that a "hardware bypass".

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:06 pm
by Wyzack
To make a diamond katana (or diamond anything, you can make most swords diamond edged) you need a whole shitload of refined hydrogen and a CDV machine i think it is called. They are in the finales for some ice labs, and are usually surrounded by killbots. Destroying the bots without causing an exposion that damages the machine can be a little tricky

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:32 pm
by tedward1337
Time to start playing this again
Fuck.

Laser/plasma weapons exist in this game yeh?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:35 pm
by Wyzack
Yes, and once you have the proper bionic set up they are wildly overpowered and ammo will never be a concern. finding them is rather difficult though, a rare lab finale is as far as i know the only place.

Does anyone know if the NPC questlines have been at all unfucked in the last 4 months or so?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:38 pm
by EndgamerAzari
Regular laser pistols aren't THAT rare; if you're lucky you can find one in a gun shop or a crazy prepper basement armory. They're sort of a pain in the ass to power, though, and in my experience they're not even as strong as a .22 pistol. I guess they're quieter, though, so there's that.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:07 pm
by Timbrewolf
If you can get the UPS bionic and the torsion ratchet they become a lot more useful. Being able to pew pew just for walking around is good.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:11 pm
by TheWiznard
Wyzack wrote:I never realized how badly i want a Captain Falcon martial art in this game until this very moment

EDIT: U fuckers got me back in to this game now i will never conquer the old world. Playing a SWAT officer on a super dangerous world with lots of wilderness expanse. Looting the edges of a town trying to find a goddamn backpack so i can loot the guns i found in a basement. Also got a lucky combat knife, zombies get rekt by my Krav Maga now. SWAT armor is incredibly powerful early game, i would recommend the class to anyone struggling to get a start.
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Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:12 pm
by EndgamerAzari
Torsion ratchet is the best Goddamn power source, though in my experience it's 1. really damn hard to install, and 2. it's better as a backup source, since it doesn't recharge fast at all. If you can use it as a backup to something more rapid-charging like the battery system it's handy, but if you rely on it alone you might find your bionics without power at some crucial moments.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:21 pm
by DemonFiren
I wonder if Metabolic Interchange is worth it.
Or the plasma arm, for that.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:21 pm
by Wyzack
Alcoholic cyborg best cyborg. I chug whiskey and turn that shit into LASERS

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:27 pm
by Timbrewolf
Ethanol burner is good IF you have the Blood Filter and Leukocyte breeder system to use with it.

Chug a ton of booze -> Blood filter the inebriation away -> Leukocyte to bring your health back up so you don't get sick from alcohol abuse.

I had one of those (Ethanol burner) but botched the installation. I do have the internal combustion engine though, which allows you to smash furniture and then eat all of it for power. Comes in super handy.

Another thing I have?

Almost two gallons of more mutagen.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:32 pm
by EndgamerAzari
DemonFiren wrote:I wonder if Metabolic Interchange is worth it.
It's handy, but, like the torsion ratchet, it's slow. If you've got food to spare it's definitely worth it as a backup.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:32 pm
by Zilenan91
Literally Bender

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:35 pm
by DemonFiren
You want Bender, grab the Internal Furnace.
As well as that alcohol processing aug.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:38 pm
by XSI
Fucking furries

If you want to remeber why Lupine is wolf, just remember "Loup" from French means wolf. Or something wolf-like.
Fuck France

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:45 pm
by DemonFiren
>french
>not latin
Image

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:59 pm
by Timbrewolf
I actually want to eventually chug a bunch of purifier to get out of this awful life, then start over again with alpha mutagen/serum. I can't seem to find any alpha mutagen or the recipes for it, though.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:01 pm
by EndgamerAzari
Is alpha the one that makes you sorta-superhuman? And for that matter, what the hell is medical mutagen?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:06 pm
by Wyzack
medical mutagen is pretty shit right now, i just think it is thematically cool. You brew it from prescription medication and hardcore drugs. Mostly just gives you crazy pain tolerance. I think it should give you some wolverine level regeneration with the right mutations but when last i checked only plant mutagen has the superfast healing, which is pretty fucking dumb.

Alpha is basically ubermench serum. Super strong, very charismatic, leader of man, asskicking machine types. Pretty bland but still very human

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:21 pm
by John_Oxford
Wyzack wrote:You are sneaky but also have shouter. So much for stealth
no no no,
he mastered the art of sneaking up behind a npc then screaming at the top of his lungs, blowing their ear drums out and putting them into cardiac arrest from the shock

its a good strat m8

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:04 pm
by Timbrewolf
My hearing is so good and my RV's engine is so enormous it deafens me for a moment whenever I start it up.

I made it through my first year! Hooray. I'm exploring another science lab in early spring and it's fucking frosty down there, so I'm walking around in the dark wrapped up in a blanket shooting shit with my AK. It's pretty fucking hilarious if you think about it. Wolf lady just calmly shuffling around with a blanket wrapped tight around herself, kicking doors open and blowing away everything inside...then shuffling down the hall to the next room.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:06 pm
by EndgamerAzari
Image
Like this, plus gun

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:11 pm
by Timbrewolf
Basically.


ALSO HOLY SHIT YOU CAN USE THE RAILGUN CBM TO FIRE KATANAS AND FIRE AXES AT PEOPLE

THEN USE THE MAGNETIC ONE TO GET THEM BACK

SSWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEET JESUS

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH DAMAGE THE HOMEWRECKER DOES WHEN YOU FIRE IT AT SOMEONE LIKE A FUCKING CANNON!?

EDIT: just found a fedora, a guy fawkes mask, a linux t-shirt, and a pair of cargo shorts in a pile. my fucking sides RNG holy shit

the only way this could've been better is if it had a pair of sandals and socks
or if the game had new balance sneakers in it

DOUBLE EDIT: The fedora fits me now I know why there's a hotkey for suicide

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:16 pm
by tedward1337
The game needs heelies tbh

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:16 pm
by Wyzack
I generally play with 91 day seasons for MUH REELISM

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:17 pm
by Zilenan91
You can already skate around and be really fast on roads but then get fucked once you fall down

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:08 pm
by Zilenan91
The open sourced really shows when the changelog in the most recent version is just a massive several page long wall of text

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:27 pm
by Timbrewolf
>be freezing my ass off inna lab
>open door
>see this
>nope the fuck out
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Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:28 pm
by Zilenan91
What are the es supposed to be? I use tilesets.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:34 pm
by EndgamerAzari
THE HAAAAACKS

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:42 pm
by XSI
Close the door

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:54 pm
by Wyzack
That room is a literal meatgrinder. It is a shame explosives are so garbage, would be an easy way to clear them all out. The only real way to deal with that fucking mess other than avoiding it is to go in there with really good armor and a melee weapon that you are incredibly skilled with. Those things can be a bitch to hit.

Actually if you could find a grenadehack or a c4hack that would probably take out a good chunk of em

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:57 pm
by John_Oxford
>use tilesets
>have no idea what 40 green e's are
>just assume theyre memey levels of ants

its just ants fam, throw a grenade in there.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:58 pm
by DemonFiren
>ants
Try memehacks.

Also, explosives aren't exactly fun.
Rooms like that one make you wish for portable turrets, though.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:58 pm
by Wyzack
They are manhacks, like from half life two. Pretty much the evicerators that nuke ops get. A flying bot that is essentially a bunch of swirling blades. Not terribly damaging, but they are really hard to hit out of the air and just a handful of them can easily shred you to pieces

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:05 pm
by DemonFiren
Now that I think about it, sounds like skeet shooting time.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:12 pm
by EndgamerAzari
They're evasive little bastards (though, inexplicably, it's easier to shoot flying small things than whack them), plus being made of metal they're decently durable. In the time it'd take to shoot two of them down there'd be five up in his face.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:15 pm
by Wyzack
If he can lure them into a doorway he could take them three at a time. If he had a one tile wide hallway nearby he could fight them one at a time

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:17 pm
by Timbrewolf
They hit and run a lot. You can focus on one at a time but there will be a dozen others mutilating you while you try.

I just closed the door and went elsewhere. Found another city to go explore.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:30 pm
by EndgamerAzari
I started a SWAT officer during my lunch break, with only minimal cheese (double starting points, but most of that was spent on the class itself). Starting with guns feels cheap somehow--I've probably beaten more zombies to death with my pistol than I have shot because I don't want to bring a horde down on myself in the first day.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:32 pm
by Wyzack
Guns are good to have in a pinch/when the horde shows up to your stronghold but the noise they make is a huge fucking liability, especially early game.

Also awl pikes = god mode. Seriously they make the game so fucking easy it is unbelievable.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:49 pm
by Timbrewolf
It's all fun and games until you're running into labs, opening a door right into a turret that just unloads on you.

Operator Zombies are no joke either, they use martials arts bullshit on you to keep trying to knock you to the ground, and even smacking them around in hand to hand can cause damage to you from shocks.

...and it's fucking freezing cold so you need to layer up like crazy. All this so you can keep looting stupid clothing items and other mundane bullshit. Whee!

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:51 pm
by Wyzack
Not all labs are ice labs. That is a very specific and annoying type. Assuming you have any key cards left i would just go find a different one to explore.

Also turret GGNORE is fucking lame, but you can usually tell if there is a turret behind a door because the door will be lit up like there is light on the other side

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:04 pm
by tedward1337
Just wear power armour to protect against the cold? If you can even find light power armour it's still pretty decent for weather resistance.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:13 pm
by XSI
Cant you just

I don't know
Open the door from a diagonal and not get shot?
Use the wall as cover?

I forgot how bullets work in this

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:31 pm
by EndgamerAzari
The problem with opening the door from an angle is that you might not be able to see far enough into the room then, and basically if you move into a targetable square while the turret can see you you're gonna get blasted a dozen times.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:13 pm
by Zilenan91
Found a wolf suit and wore it since it was cold. Thought it would've been a funny image since I wore a trenchcoat on top of it and was killing zombies.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:30 pm
by Zilenan91
Why does time pass so quickly with you just moving around? I spawned in a police station and walked a few rl minutes before I killed myself because I fucked up my build and it said I had gone a full season. Does it always say that if you've been alive shorter than a seasons length?

Edit: Also tfw you're climbing through a broken window and poke your eye