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Vermintide 2 - BEASTMEN SOON

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:47 am #376014

The sequel to our beloved rat slasher from 2015 is coming in March 2018. Gonna use this thread to shill.

>$25 on Steam preorder right now
>dedicated servers and server sided loot
>Heroic deeds system
>rng loot is gone
>same characters as last game, but each has 3 classes now
>each class has a unique passive and active ability (charge through crowds and stun, invisibility until attacking, etc)
>each class has different talent trees, cosmetics, and dialogue
>all weapons from the first game returning plus a shit ton more
>skaven return with new additions
>new faction: chaos warriors, worshiping nergal
>3 known minibosses: chaos spawn, rat ogre, skaven with a warpthrower and chaingun
>several unknown full bosses
>more open maps, better graphics, FAR more optimized
>less pure hordes of enemies and more armored ones to emphasize strategy and teamwork
>ogres and possibly vampires
>full mod support with an SDK release at launch
>armor and hats instead of just hats

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Re: Vermintide 2 (might as well be 3)

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:49 am #376015

There's better info at

http://www.vermintide.com

They have posts about the new enemies, classes, and all that. Really cool stuff.
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Re: Vermintide 2 (might as well be 3)

Postby Wyzack » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:58 am #376018

>no more RNG loot
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Re: Vermintide 2 (might as well be 3)

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:29 am #376026

According to some of the guys who make vermintide guides and videos (actual good ones) the maps are fantastic. The quality and polish is fucking asounding. The keep that replaces the inn as the lobby has a ton of shit to do.

The weapon trait system has also been majorly reworked and is said to be vastly better.
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Re: Vermintide 2 (might as well be 3)

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:25 pm #376167

NEW UPDATE TODAY

Empire Soldier's classes have been revealed.

Mercenary: The jack-of-all-trades class, being medium armor/medium speed and good in both melee and ranged. Weapon shown is a fucking halberd.

Foot Knight: Heavy armor, lower speed. The tank of the group.

Huntsman: No armor, high speed, can use bows and all kinds of guns. Kruber goes fucking nuts basically.

Screenshots of the classes below.

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Re: Vermintide 2 (might as well be 3)

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:46 pm #376174

They haven't even revealed all the enemies yet and none of the boss fights, cosmic.

The hype train is real.
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Re: Vermintide 2 (might as well be 3)

Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:41 pm #382224

Bump.

If you preordered V2 you can play the technical test going on now until the 19th. Progress will be reset after and it's fairly crash heavy but runs well.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby Timbrewolf » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:11 am #386187

Pre-order beta has begun, they say they wont reset progress if you start playing now but no promises.
I imagine if there's some huge bug or fuckup they can still reset but this is pretty fun.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:23 am #386225

They didn't in 1 and I see no reason for them to in 2.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby Timbrewolf » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:52 am #386228

When I play as the elf: Stay with my team. Use my daggers to provide crowd control so sister laserbeam can do her thing. Snipe some dudes when we aren't surrounded.

When anyone else plays as the elf: They're downed calling for a revive halfway across the map.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:10 am #386259

>Full outfit skins are a thing at launch (you get the old VT1 armor if you own it)
>weapons now have "illusions", which are different looks
>you can remove the illusion from one weapon and put it on another to change the look to that illusion
>elf getting nerfed
>troll super fucking hard now
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:33 am #386269

Also Huntsman is broken as fuck at high level right now. I 4 shot every boss but the troll with a blunderbuss.

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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby Timbrewolf » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:43 pm #386328

How the fuck does he reload that fast?
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:17 pm #386502

20% reload talent, and huntsman power further increases it.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby Lumbermancer » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:16 pm #386640

game is hard
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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:17 pm #386659

I hope you aren't talking about normal, because it's piss easy even at level 1. They just nerfed normal even further last night.

>if enemies are around in swarms, keep block up
>hold M1 while blocking to push back and automatically do a lightning fast attack called a parry
>repeat, controlling the zone around you

If you're straight up running into combat without a lot of CC experience from Vermintide 1 you're gonna get fucked up. Also blocking is different from the first, in that each weapon has a zone in front of them where stamina cost from blocking is normal, and outside of it you can still block but it costs more stamina.

You also need to prioritize targets. Your parry push won't hit everyone, so use your strike on one about to hit you who did not get stunned.

Now if you're talking about Champion then yeah, it can be hard, only because of the bullshit unbalance right now that high up.

>run going good so far halfway through
>all of a sudden we get a stormie patrol
>I solo kill them all because huntsman
>immediately after a patrol spawns right on top of us as well as a horde and 2 gutter runners
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Postby Lumbermancer » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:22 pm #386660

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Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:29 pm #386662

How much did you play VT1? If you have little experience then yeah it's gonna take time to adjust. Not an easy game for new players.

Here's my example of crowd control. This was on Champion where they're even faster as well.

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Re: Vermintide 2 - Beta for preorders NOW

Postby Timbrewolf » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:31 pm #387391

>when you first use Kruber with his greatsword

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>when you unlock his halberd

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Postby DrPillzRedux » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:45 am #387537

>there's music specific for when you're the last person alive
>and another version for when you're the last person alive fighting a boss

Oh my fucking god.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:23 pm #387561

We had a bug last night where a Bile Troll glitched and got stuck very early on Against the Grain and we had to spend the rest of the fucking level listening to that awful fucking music.

Terrible.
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Postby DrPillzRedux » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:26 am #387734

>awful music

Get out.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:57 am #387745

Dude the Bile Troll music is godawful.

It's like just these shrill violins and clanging over and over and over and over and...

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Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:36 am #387801

Is there a difference between parry and blocking? The internet is no help.

Some people think blocking is for when you get nailed by someone outside your block radius and it costs you more stamina, while parrying is just blocking anyone in your radius.

One or two people say there's a timed parry window during your block animation that will bounce attacks for cheap stamina but other people have posted to say that's bullshit.

I can't tell if I'm being misled or just bad.
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Postby DrPillzRedux » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:48 am #387803

Blocking is when you hold M2. Each weapon has a different cone. You block a full 360 degrees, but when hit outside of your weapons cone, the stamina cost is doubled.

A parry is when you hold M2 to block, and when you have a window to counterattack, you hold M1 while blocking to do an automatic, extremely fast push and attack. You keep holding M2 during this to automatically go back into block. Parry is extremely useful for controlling the zone in front of you due to its push and attack speed, and nesr instantly returning to block.

Blocking when an enemy is literally about to hit you is called a perfect block. This tends to make enemies stagget and fall backward.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:21 pm #387901

A+ explanation thank you Pillz.

Will practice this stuff.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:31 am #388550

Gat dam knowing all that stuff completely changed my approach to the game to be way more defensive and health-conservative.

I've never used Saltzpyre much before because I couldn't understand him (why would I want this puny rapier when I could have a bigass axe or sword or something?) but putting all that into practice combined with his abilities and the utility of his rapier power attacks he's fun as hell to play as.

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Postby Wyzack » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:42 pm #388616

Finally got Ironbreaker. Holy fuck the flamethrower was fun as shit to use, and the drakfire pistols racked me up an absolute ton of kills
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Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:47 pm #388617

Yeah the issue with the new scoreboard is people don't play defensively at all now trying to be the top killer, when the game is about who takes the least damage. For some reason the damage taken stat was removed.

The current best weapon for WH is the rapier. Aim at head level and you chop off heads fast. I have a rapier with 5% power cooldown on each crit, +5 crit chance, and +5 attack speed. On zealot my power is off cooldown for 5 seconds max.
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Postby Wyzack » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:07 pm #388618

Do weapon and shield combos have any intrinsic benefit other than having the highest stamina levels? I have a two handed dorf hammer with +2 stamina as its special, which puts it just one point under my hammer and shield combo and i think the single stamina point is well worth the extra kill power as long as there are no other variables at play
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Postby dezzmont » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:25 pm #388624

I now have this game, if there is some group people play in.

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Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:48 pm #388627

By default shield block everything at low stamina cost in a 180 degree frontal cone. With certain upgrades/talents it can be changed to full 360 for pretty much unbreakable block. Blocking is very very important on Champion and Legend, so, yeah.

Also launch trailer is out. They went with a stand still one to emulate a tabletop.

And at 3:24 the last hero standing combat music plays which always get me moist.

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Postby Timbrewolf » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:32 pm #388638

Salty has so many fun weapons. His one-handed axe is fun and satisfying. His falchion packs a wallop. The flail is TOO FUN HOLY SHIT I LOVE IT. I haven't tried to use his 2hander yet.

I agree though that the Rapier seems to be his best weapon. The ability to just quickly stuff multiple charge attacks into anything's face is so potent. The crit juggling shenanigans with the off-hand pistol is fun too with some crit damage boosting and point-blank range.
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Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:10 pm #388643

Funny because the one handed axe is considered the worst weapon in the game right next to the pick because zero armor penetration (what is was used for in 1), low damage, low speed, and getting stuck in every enemy.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby dezzmont » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:32 pm #388652

So right after I finished the 30 minute download and completed the tutorial to get used to the game to play with people, the patch hits, and now I gotta wait through a 30 minute download and do the tutorial again... Delightful!

Are people going to start playing now? Room for a total newbie scrub?

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Postby Timbrewolf » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:03 pm #388674

>have to play the tutorial AGAIN

haha holy shit are you srs

DrPillzRedux wrote:Funny because the one handed axe is considered the worst weapon in the game right next to the pick because zero armor penetration (what is was used for in 1), low damage, low speed, and getting stuck in every enemy.


But it has both armor piercing and shield breaking on it?
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Postby DrPillzRedux » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:12 pm #388676

Not in the same function as in VT1 where it straight up ignored armor. It's only a percentage now.
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Postby Timbrewolf » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:01 am #388716

Ah okay. Would be nice if that kind of hidden number was more obvious.
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Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:27 am #388717

>obvious

HAHAHA WELCOME TO VERMINTIDE

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Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:38 am #388778

This image shows the hell that Legend is right now. I knew this shit would happen when they refused to let us test it.

Keep in mind each and every one of these guys will two shot you at full HP, take 15+ hits to kill, there's a stormer hiding on the other side of the map, and we were pinned right after a drop point of no return.

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Postby FantasticFwoosh » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:24 am #388785

I thought those were dragon ogres for a second, its just funny angle very tall chaos warriors.


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Postby Timbrewolf » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:18 pm #388893

That "No mom my computer isn't broken it looks like this because I'm a professional" FOV

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Postby onleavedontatme » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:30 pm #388933

dezzmont wrote:So right after I finished the 30 minute download and completed the tutorial to get used to the game to play with people, the patch hits, and now I gotta wait through a 30 minute download and do the tutorial again... Delightful!


You can hit escape and leave game, sends you to the keep.

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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby Wyzack » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:43 pm #388943

Christ pillz that fov is awful
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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm #388949

Ultrawide spectator fov causes fisheye effect.

Also they nerfed everything again. Might stop playing because they want to make the talents and traits completely fucking worthless to care about.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby dezzmont » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:20 pm #388955

I dunno. Its only 4 talents right? And the 85% healing was a bit nutso from what I understood as it effectively doubled the benefit of healing packs. Nerfing that makes sense considering that its modeled after L4D and those games don't work if resources are so plentiful there isn't an urge to move forward.

What do resourceful sharpshooter and resourceful combatant do?

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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby DrPillzRedux » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:51 pm #388966

Uh no, they stealth nerfed every class but the dwarf. Longer cooldowns, reduction of crit multipliers, reduction of active power duration, many weapons nerfed that didn't even need a nerf.

Also the L4D argument is non-applicable now. They advertised the game and trait system as being able to change your entire kit to suit your playstyle, when it's now just oh boy I do something 5% better.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby Timbrewolf » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:51 am #389034

I'm not going to quit playing because I'm still having tons o fun but I'm with Pillz

The devs are listening way too much to the vocal whiners on Reddit. People who are complaining that the game is too different from V1 and that a proper sequel should just be more of the same. That I read those exact words and saw how many upvotes and positive comments that line of thinking got made me want to pull my beard out in fistfuls. Holy shit. Fuck off. Go back to V1 if that's what you want you shitters.

The game is great but the community is terrible.
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Re: Vermintide 2 - IT'S OUT

Postby Timbrewolf » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:56 am #389035

Like I'm in fucking love with Zealot mode Saltzy for the risk/reward gameplay of purposely soaking up injuries to get a massive attack/crit boost.

I'm afraid it's only a matter of time until people point out how the Grimoires can basically turn that shit on for you all the time and how that's not fair etc. etc. and they fuck that whole notion of play up.

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