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Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:53 am
by Lumbermancer


https://store.steampowered.com/app/5327 ... 1_41_4__42

wew lads, remember to tip your cab driver

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:20 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
i just hope it's good and not super fucking cringy like the World of Darkness books have become

i really hope during character creation the narrator doesn't turn to face the screen and tell me if i'm a white person who votes republican to stop playing their game and get a refund and then donate it to The Society of Cutting off Children's Dicks and Filling them Up With Chinese Horsepiss

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:34 pm
by Lumbermancer
I'm more interested in why people on 4chins were going >paradox, as if it was a bad thing.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:44 pm
by XSI
Paradox has been producing lower and lower quality for years now
If the trend continues, this will be at best okay, and at worst Bioware style Dragon age 2 levels of bad

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Then at worst your expectations are met and at best you get to enjoy something decent

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:54 pm
by Shadowflame909


More of this when

Malkavians were the best race

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:16 pm
by Lumbermancer
XSI wrote:Paradox has been producing lower and lower quality for years now

Are they producing low quality games? The last games they produced and released were HoI4 and Stellaris, which were pretty ok. Imperator is not out yet. They are publishing more games, like Battletech which was pretty ok too. Bloodlines 2 won't be developed by Paradox either I think, only published. The developer is literally who though. I had to look up Hardsuit Games, and they made Blacklight and Chivalry. Chivalry is good, but the apparent lack of single player making experience seems worrying.

Shadowflame909 wrote:Malkavians were the best race

Chad Toreador vs virgin Malkavian.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:25 pm
by Karp
Even if paradox made an amazing game I still think people would be pissed off, there are too many expectations with this game and at best i'd expect to see "Lives up to the first bloodlines" because people are fucking idiots with cult classic games and they worship them like the perfect game given to us by a higher power

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:34 pm
by Lumbermancer
Rik Schaffer is apparently back as a composer.


Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:04 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Lumbermancer wrote:Rik Schaffer is apparently back as a composer.


oh man, he told everyone he could never make the bloodlines soundtrack again cuz he was in some Deep Shit when he made it

dude's gonna go off the rails living in filth and drugs to get the sound just right

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:12 pm
by Lumbermancer
Out of rehab already.

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Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:39 am
by cedarbridge
Lumbermancer wrote:I'm more interested in why people on 4chins were going >paradox, as if it was a bad thing.

Because the expectation (further evidenced by the already announced Season Pass DLC setup) is that they'll go the same route they've gone with most of their games and drip feed DLC for five years until you've paid 500 bucks for the game ala EU4 or HoI.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:46 am
by PKPenguin321
cedarbridge wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:I'm more interested in why people on 4chins were going >paradox, as if it was a bad thing.

Because the expectation (further evidenced by the already announced Season Pass DLC setup) is that they'll go the same route they've gone with most of their games and drip feed DLC for five years until you've paid 500 bucks for the game ala EU4 or HoI.

yarr, matey... arrrg...

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:53 am
by cedarbridge
"Season Pass"ification apart, I'm already concerned that the game has barely been announced and the narrative designer is already giving interviews about how great it was to have the ability to use the game's story to soapbox about politics though. I'm getting deja vu.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:36 am
by XSI
That tends to be a bad sign

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:53 am
by Doritos
i'm excited about vtmb2 until it proves to be shit(and it will, nuwhitewolf+paradox is almost assuredly a bad combination.)

hope for the best expect the worst etc

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:21 am
by Lumbermancer
Way to fucking ruin my hype lads...

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:31 am
by Malkevin
Super Aggro Crag wrote:i just hope it's good and not super fucking cringy like the World of Darkness books have become

i really hope during character creation the narrator doesn't turn to face the screen and tell me if i'm a white person who votes republican to stop playing their game and get a refund and then donate it to The Society of Cutting off Children's Dicks and Filling them Up With Chinese Horsepiss

Someone was telling me that apparently the character creator has two stages.
You pick your human character looks and then later on you pick your vampire looks, complete with gender bending.

Lumbermancer wrote:
Shadowflame909 wrote:Malkavians were the best race

Chad Toreador vs virgin Malkavian.

Damn.

This just reminds me I played the original Bloodlines as boring fuck normie Toredors instead of special Malkavians.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:09 pm
by Kraso
unless you're a tizzie genderbending should be out of the question

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:39 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Kraso wrote:unless you're a tizzie genderbending should be out of the question

what if you're a nosferatu and your curse gives you boobs

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:44 pm
by cedarbridge
We've so far been told at the very least that all characters are "thin-bloods" meaning they're super late generation vampires with extremely weak forms of the Curse. The only way for a thin-blood to become a full vampire is to diablerize (drain all of the blood from) another vampire (obviously frowned upon universally by vampire-kind. I have a feeling that the story is going to entirely gloss over that last part and have the NPCs treat you like one of the gang without a second thought about how you got to where you are.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:10 pm
by terranaut
Presented without comment.

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Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:11 pm
by terranaut
Also:
I remember playing the first game knowing absolutely nothing about the game or the lore at all and just so happened to roll Malkavian. Oh boy, was that a fucking ride.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:56 am
by ThanatosRa
I had a theory about the first one. You're 8th gen im the first game. You have way too many blood points for a thinblood.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:51 am
by cedarbridge
ThanatosRa wrote:I had a theory about the first one. You're 8th gen im the first game. You have way too many blood points for a thinblood.

Entirely possible. Its very obvious that the player isn't a thin blood in the first game because 1) you manifest kindred features immediately after embrace 2) you don't have to diablerize anyone to gain those features.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:14 am
by Screemonster
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Kraso wrote:unless you're a tizzie genderbending should be out of the question

what if you're a nosferatu and your curse gives you boobs

web client ruins copypasta formatting but one of the discords I'm in was shitposting about the character archetypes we might see
i just got the mental image of an overly edgy Antifa Brujah
and it's so perfect
>Antifa Brujah and Alt-Right Brujah having a shitflinging match as all the older vampires just watch like
"Why did we sire these morons."
"Why."

mall katana weeb toreador

>Hentai doujin artist Toreador

>FURRY VAMPIRE IN THEIR FURSUIT THE ENTIRE GAME
NOBODY BLINKS AT IT AND THEY CAN FINALLY GO AROUND DURING THE DAY!
"Jesus Christ, why do you smell so awful!?" "I'm a musky husky"

dril malk

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:57 am
by cedarbridge
Dril malk is redundant. I choose to believe he's been hiding in plain sight all along.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:44 pm
by Lumbermancer

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:55 pm
by cedarbridge
Looks alright.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:05 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
i wanna be a nosferat

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:46 am
by Grazyn
Vampire lore is known for its strict conservative themes and Christian family values, how dare they introduce stuff like *gasp* homosexuality, mental illness and disrespect for authority.

go woke go broke, boycott them now

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:11 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Grazyn wrote:Vampire lore is known for its strict conservative themes and Christian family values, how dare they introduce stuff like *gasp* homosexuality, mental illness and disrespect for authority.

go woke go broke, boycott them now

Tae fuck are you on about your marinara swilling guinea?

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:16 pm
by Lumbermancer
malkevin has mental illness

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:32 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Im not contesting that but what prompted that statement

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:49 pm
by Lumbermancer
i think some people were offended or something

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:51 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Weird

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:51 pm
by Grazyn
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Grazyn wrote:Vampire lore is known for its strict conservative themes and Christian family values, how dare they introduce stuff like *gasp* homosexuality, mental illness and disrespect for authority.

go woke go broke, boycott them now

Tae fuck are you on about your marinara swilling guinea?

terranaut wrote:Presented without comment.

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Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:36 pm
by cedarbridge
I'm not seeing the outrage other than ResetEra morons acting surprised that mental illness is represented with some nuance in the setting.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:24 pm
by Malkevin
Lumbermancer wrote:malkevin has mental illness

uhhhhh

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:35 pm
by Lumbermancer
you heard me

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 pm
by Lumbermancer
also i'm really curious if any of those people actually played the first game, and what was their reaction to the portrayal of malkevin there

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:03 pm
by cedarbridge
Lumbermancer wrote:also i'm really curious if any of those people actually played the first game, and what was their reaction to the portrayal of malkevin there

Malks were pretty well handled in the first game. They were "demented" but it was handled well within the setting context of being an entire kindred bloodline of perpetually interconnected telepaths with glimpses of possible future events. You'd be pretty weird if you had the Internet literally shouting into your skull at all times too.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:13 pm
by Malkevin
I'm still not sure if you're doing a freudian slip and misspelling Malkavians or taking the piss out of me, although I'm sure it's the latter.

Obviously I found the Malkavians craziness to be interesting to the point that when I had to arse grab a character name for a UO shard around the time I played VtMB I chose a slightly corrupted name based off theirs.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:04 pm
by bman
when are you guys gonna take the nosferatupill

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 pm
by ThanatosRa
Nossies and Malks best clans

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:00 pm
by Lumbermancer
I misspelled, wanted to edit, but kept it and now Malkevins are canon in my mind.

cedarbridge wrote:Malks were pretty well handled in the first game. They were "demented" but it was handled well within the setting context of being an entire kindred bloodline of perpetually interconnected telepaths with glimpses of possible future events. You'd be pretty weird if you had the Internet literally shouting into your skull at all times too.


I never played Malkevins, only superior clans like Ventrue, Toreador and Nosferatu, so my only reference to Malkevins dementia were always the pictures with meme dialogue options and the hallucinations.

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Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:10 pm
by cedarbridge
Lumbermancer wrote:I never played Malkevins, only superior clans like Ventrue, Toreador and Nosferatu, so my only reference to Malkevins dementia were always the pictures with meme dialogue options and the hallucinations.

The "meme dialogue" is a product of what I mentioned. They're constantly bombarded with a ton of information that they don't personally possess but which may or not be true/useful/relevant to their circumstances. Its the reason your malkavian characters in BL1 could recognize certain NPCs before being introduced to them or know things about the plot that only really make sense when the player realizes later that you were speaking in prophetic riddles.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:23 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
The thinblood oracle girl might have malkavian sire, she warns you of dinosaur

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:33 pm
by Lumbermancer
cedarbridge wrote:The "meme dialogue" is a product of what I mentioned. They're constantly bombarded with a ton of information that they don't personally possess but which may or not be true/useful/relevant to their circumstances. Its the reason your malkavian characters in BL1 could recognize certain NPCs before being introduced to them or know things about the plot that only really make sense when the player realizes later that you were speaking in prophetic riddles.

What I'm saying is if I was more social-minded individual, and knew jack shit of wod lore, I would find such portrayal of mental illness insensitive. And now Paradox says they gonna be sensitive about it, so what does it mean? It implies it will be different from the original.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:47 pm
by cedarbridge
Lumbermancer wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:The "meme dialogue" is a product of what I mentioned. They're constantly bombarded with a ton of information that they don't personally possess but which may or not be true/useful/relevant to their circumstances. Its the reason your malkavian characters in BL1 could recognize certain NPCs before being introduced to them or know things about the plot that only really make sense when the player realizes later that you were speaking in prophetic riddles.

What I'm saying is if I was more social-minded individual, and knew jack shit of wod lore, I would find such portrayal of mental illness insensitive. And now Paradox says they gonna be sensitive about it, so what does it mean? It implies it will be different from the original.

They'll probably just water them down to being weird precog/telepaths or something.

Re: Vampire: The Masquarade also Bloodlines Two (2) 2020 edition

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:58 pm
by Takeguru
But that's boring
The apparent insanity, even if it skirts the line of being lolsorandumb, makes it fun