Dominions 4; Good luck, im behind 7000 supayas!

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:31 pm #143865

Bottom post of the previous page:

the ui is the least of your problems lmao

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:02 pm #143945

Dominions is a literal 10/10 perfect game tho?

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:07 pm #144062

ColonicAcid wrote:the ui is the least of your problems lmao

Actually it's not. I only played dominions 3 but entire playstyles require so much mind numbing braindead micromanagement that you would be torturing yourself to use them. If dominions 4 improved the UI then I would be glad to hear it, but I doubt it.

You can't even set move waypoints for moving units, if I want to move an army 10 provinces I DON'T want to give them the same order 10 turns in a row.
Blood magic is a PITA because of how tedious it is to get the blood slaves.
Late Ermor is crucifying yourself because of how tedious it is to move chaff when you can't set province waypoints for a the shit that spawns. Also all units are too retarded to even move on their own and require a commander assigned, which adds absolutely zero to the strategy but is horribly tedious.
Searching magic sites is tedious because of no order queue
Can you even repeat province build queue's?

And more. I have no idea why so many small/indy developers pay absolutely no attention to interface, in the case of Dominions 3 it basically breaks the game.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:48 pm #144065

>complaining about la ermor being tedious to play as

I'm sorry for your loss but playing against la ermor in multilayer games has given me multiple non-metastatic cancers.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:04 pm #144072

ColonicAcid wrote:>complaining about la ermor being tedious to play as

I'm sorry for your loss but playing against la ermor in multilayer games has given me multiple non-metastatic cancers.

Yeah, getting all those priests recruited and moving to the front lines is also a giant PITA. Would be a lot better for both sides if the UI wasn't complete shit.

THE MIGHTY GALVATRON · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:40 pm

Ha! Won my first game (against the AI on easy but psssh!) not 5 minutes ago. My dominion was just too strong for the other guy.

This game has so many spells, I wanted to use the AGE EVERYONE TO DEATH spell but the game ended before I could.

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:31 am #144180

Who were you playing? Because you typically don't want to cast that unless you're a skeleton (best race)

THE MIGHTY GALVATRON · Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:50 am

Zellion wrote:Who were you playing? Because you typically don't want to cast that unless you're a skeleton (best race)

Demilich, the ultraskeleton. Can pretenders die of old age? Do they respawn? I have no clue how so much of this game works.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:41 am #144216

There are also boots you can make and give your dudes that prevent them from being affected by aging. They require blood slaves to manufacture though.

I hear people complain about blood slaves a lot but I've never had much problem building up a stockpile of them in my games (but then again I prettymuch only ever play as Abyssia so maybe that makes it a lot easier for me).

Dom 4 is the only game in the series I've played, and I haven't played it all that much compared to others. I hear the argument that it's full of very tedious things but I think that's kind of part of the appeal? It's like DORF FORT in that regard IMO, if you don't want to get in there and micromanage everything you shouldn't be playing this game in the first place.

srifenbyxp · Post by **srifenbyxp** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:06 am #144227

Is there a way to auto-make priest go to research when you make them? I spend most of my time in F1 making sure every priest is researching.

Lumbermancer · Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:31 am

You can set in options so every new commander with research will go research.

srifenbyxp · Post by **srifenbyxp** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:30 pm #144367

Neat, shall we arrange a date where we all wave dicks at each other? So far it's me, tedward, XSI, and Skelly. If we get one or two more people we can do a game with out AI and yell at each other.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:56 am #144397

An0n3 wrote:There are also boots you can make and give your dudes that prevent them from being affected by aging. They require blood slaves to manufacture though.

I hear people complain about blood slaves a lot but I've never had much problem building up a stockpile of them in my games (but then again I prettymuch only ever play as Abyssia so maybe that makes it a lot easier for me).

Dom 4 is the only game in the series I've played, and I haven't played it all that much compared to others. I hear the argument that it's full of very tedious things but I think that's kind of part of the appeal? It's like DORF FORT in that regard IMO, if you don't want to get in there and micromanage everything you shouldn't be playing this game in the first place.

The game has micromanagement not because of the choices you make on a small scale, but because the interface is shit in translating your decisions to the game. There is an extreme difference between micromanagement and having to click 10 times to give the same move order each turn.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:13 am #144424

CPTANT wrote:having to click 10 times to give the same move order each turn.

Bro it's two clicks. Once on the unit, once on the adjacent hex you want them to go to.

Come on. I understand your frustration that you can't click on a faraway destination and have them automatically follow a route each turn but it's not a big deal. On small to medium sized maps or larger maps with numerous opponents you should be stopping to think about the optimal movement for each unit each turn anyway. In my opinion the pacing of the game is slow enough that you should be deliberately moving each unit each turn anyway.

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:13 pm #144576

It's not even two clicks if you're a pro master. N to select next commander, it moves you right onto him and selects him, click once to move. Get with it, my nigga.

THE MIGHTY GALVATRON · Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:25 pm

Zellion wrote:It's not even two clicks if you're a pro master. N to select next commander, it moves you right onto him and selects him, click once to move. Get with it, my nigga.

Now these are the MLG pro-dom-strats I need!

Incomptinence · Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:01 am

People might complain about Dom4 being tedious because they made gem gens and slave hunts no longer the be all and end all of vanilla.

Like anyone even wanting a slightly fair game needed it modded out the wazoo in 3 because how fast your nation could shit out bleeding stones and clams was important.

Balut · Post by **Balut** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:12 pm #145203

Hello again

Has whoever else it was that had an Ulm boner acquired a boner for another nation, I would enjoy being GLORIOUS ULM.

Lumbermancer · Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:18 pm

I'm not sure if I understand the question.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:53 pm #145454

Ulm Stronk

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:11 am #145675

When game

Lumbermancer · Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:21 am

Never ever.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:12 am #145875

Probably 2017 at this rate

Lumbermancer · Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:23 pm

I bet we'd have this pbem finished by now.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:08 am #162316

We would have

Or some dick would have cast burden of time

Incomptinence · Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:44 pm

I like game. Also am bad at game I mean you can beat me up and steal my hymen money let's just play this game...

Lumbermancer · Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:12 pm

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=tgstation

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:43 pm #162681

Lumbermancer wrote:http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=tgstation

>no mods
>EA
o i am laffin

Incomptinence · Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:59 pm

In in in in. Stop expecting your minds read and play a drat game.

Lumbermancer · Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:19 pm

Zellion wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=tgstation
>no mods
>EA
o i am laffin

I'm pretty sure era can be changed. And >mods >implying the game isn't perfect.

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:15 pm #162715

I already signed up

Lumbermancer · Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:56 pm

Well if you don't want EA then say the fuck now so we can remake pretenders.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:38 am #163266

Are we trying again?

Because I'd be up for trying again

Lumbermancer · Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:44 am

Well let's see if we can get 5th duder.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:08 am #163272

Well, yeah.
I'm in

Just let me make a pretendo for it

Edit: Had one from last game that never started, I'm in
C'tis reporting!

Lumbermancer · Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:54 am

Wait, so who is Tien Chi?

dezzmont · Post by **dezzmont** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:13 pm #163351

I am down as well if you have room!

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:39 pm #163354

I looked at the map in the map making thingy

Are you sure this map is for 5 players?
It looks small

Lumbermancer · Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:13 pm

I upped player count if someone wants to join. And feel free to suggest new map. Also say who you are.

I'm Cthulhu.

Preamble · Post by **Preamble** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:42 pm #163376

I hope you are playing Rl'yeh ironically.
Also I am yomi.

Lumbermancer · Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:45 pm

But they got buffed last patch.

Zellion · Post by **Zellion** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:37 pm #163411

Yea they got a sweet new spell to make their coastal recruit units to disappear, it's pretty sweet

Lumbermancer · Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:18 pm

Ok, we begin tomorrow. Still one slot open if someone wants to join.

Also someone experienced should pick another map, cause this one will be too small now.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:53 pm #163625

You could always just go with random map gen

Apparently the mapgen is decent enough, even if it lacks flavour

Lumbermancer · Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:19 pm

You'd have to generate it and upload to llama so probably no go.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:09 pm #163753

Looking through the maps:

Big Black Peaks - No-wrap 4-8 with one underwater(Tiny water space though)
Fantomia - No wrap for 3-7 with any underwater(Lots of water that is)
Realm of Rampaging Roaches - No wrap for for 4-8 with up to two underwater
Thronelands - Wraparound map for 3-7 with one underwater
Edit: Streamlands - No wrap 5-9 with up to 2 underwater

Silent Seas is a 'maybe' for 5 players, or so it says, but it would work if we keep someone underwater. Definitely not a lot of space, but then we're not going to be peacefully expanding anyway

dezzmont · Post by **dezzmont** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:23 pm #163760

I had to move today and didn't see you would be starting, is it too late to join in? It is hard to tell with llama server.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:40 pm #163769

Well it hasn't started yet

Maps for 6:
Big Black Peaks - No-wrap 4-8 with one underwater(Tiny water space though)
Fantomia - No wrap for 3-7 with any underwater(Lots of water that is)
Realm of Rampaging Roaches - No wrap for for 4-8 with up to two underwater
Thronelands - Wraparound map for 3-7 with one underwater
Aran - No wrap 6-10
The Desert Eye - Wraparound 6-10 any underwater
Parganos - Comes in both wrap and no wrap, 6-10(Any underwater it says, but it looks like at most 2)
Streamlands - No wrap 5-9, up to two underwater

So we got choices

Edit: Just saw player max got upped to 7
With 7 we add
Shadowshore - No wrap 7-11 players, one underwater max

yackemflam · Post by **yackemflam** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:56 am #163975

WAIT YOU GUYS PLAY DOMS 4?
Is it too late for me?

ColonicAcid · Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:13 am

its too late for all of us

(i managed to fix my router btw so i can now most definitely 100% host a blitz if you guys want,)

Lumbermancer · Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:20 pm

I opened 2 more slots, because I like you lot a lot. Also changed map to Shadowshore. I would really like to start today so hurry up.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=tgstation