/tg/Station 13

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yeah it's not deathblows not on how much damage you did. Hard to make it happen in practice.

>another random NPC just milling around near my base like a goldfish just fucking doing nothing
>"Get out of here or I'll kill you!"
>NPC has turned hostile
>NPC glitches out, game forces debug mode, NPC's head explodes

yeah man it's great so glad I'm playing the stable release wew lads

Yeah that happens if NPCs get stuck in a loop to prevent the game from locking up.

mind blown

the head explode thing happened to me before
>start game
>meet starter npc
>"Go download all my porn on this thumbdrive from a town 999999999999999 miles away"
>"ok"
>teleport there because fuckdarooles
>go in the house
>spend like 5 minutes trying to find the fucking computer (im blind it was actually sitting right in the corner on a dark tile)
>download porn
>walk out
>"Hey we should talk!"
>inb4 npc fully kitted out with swat armor and a m4
>"Hey, friend"
>"What are you doing?"
>bullshit around with badass npc for a few minutes, asking him if he wants to join, even though its like a 3% chance
>"Sure! Why not."
>wellshit.jpg
>teleport back to evac shelter and give the shitty npc her porn
>"Thanks!"
>"Hey, we should travel together!"
>travel with npc allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way back to where the swat npc was
>go meet him
>starter NPC is for some reason hostile towards the swat NPC
>swat npc doesn't aggro me but turns around and one hits the starter npc
>but yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>morale is kill
>not soon after, out of no where the swat npc's head explodes
>inb4 walked 60ish map tiles to just have both npcs die
>ilovethisgame.jpg

I play with NPCs off because they either turn hostile and try to kill you right as you spawn while they spawn with fusion blaster rifles, or decide not to kill you, but spawn in hordes and proceed to destroy every edible creature within 60 miles with their guns while attracting Bad Things.

if they didn't spawn so much and weren't so ARtificially Dumb as Fuck, I might put them on so I could cannibalize them for the morale penalty so I can be a sad person.

I don't like NPCs that much either but the world feels too empty without them tbh.

well, it is the apocalips

I usually never play with them because they're buggy and don't add shit to the game but stupid fucking fetch quests and other repetitive shit.

I have, no shit, walked to the same patch of woods to kill a Jabberwocky...I think four times now? That's all anyone ever wants me to do. Kill a Jabberwocky or their zombified mom.
...at least best case scenario. Other times it's me just trying to fix my car or something when suddenly NPC TELEPORTS BEHIND U NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID *unsheathes shotgun*

I just fucked an entire city full of zombies by just running a lap around the streets to draw them all in, then standing in the middle of the horde and flexing my sick kung fu moves and beating them all to death with my fists. My one leg got nibbled enough to go light green. Big fucking deal.

Having been there to watch all of this, Genius McFuckface the NPC runs up to me, orders me to drop my weapon, and tries to rob me with a Beretta. He gets one shot at me, which pangs off my helmet, before I use the railgun biotic to fire my machete into him and which sends him flying backwards into a car and pulps his body into a ton of human meat chunks and shit gear I don't want. Thankfully he has 150 some odd rounds of 9mm on him for some fucking reason though, so at least that interaction had some value to me? Other times it's just some random dude in his boxer shorts with a hockey stick screaming at me to stop riding my motorcycle around so he can "rob" me, and by "rob" I mean get his head punched off by me.

The game seems empty without NPC's?

Nigga if this shit makes you feel like a void has been filled you're a dumb motherfucker smh

It's realistic at least

Humanity is great at overestimating their own strength and at being dicks

Somehow my z-level generation got fucked up and there's a certain special area in the game I just can't go to in my world. I mad.

Found a new structure type i have never seen before. It is called a military outpost, but it is roughly the size of a mansion, is surrounded by a big minefield and is home to roughly 20 hostile NPCs with the job of Thug or Raider, most in military gear. I am systematically eradicating the raider scum with careful use of my modded up MP5 and a classic M1014 shotgun but it is fucking rough going, keep nearly getting killed. Gonna sneak in there in the early morning and see if i can kill a bunch more and make off with some loot. Kinda wanna see if i can take this base for myself, but i have a feeling that all the unsilenced gunfire is gonna bring some hordes

EDIT: FUCKING NOPE!

Something or someone saw me in the darkness and hit me with a spray of autofire so massive it had to have been several people with automatics. crawled the fuck out of there with one / left on my torso, they did not seem to follow. Might have been bots or drones, but nothing i could see was giving off light

Factions. They're pretty rare but they exist. The Old Guard is one of them and they have forest bases full of friendly dudes with lots of guns and they give you shit. They have representatives at evac centers, you can find evac centers in the evac houses survivors spawn in by using the terminal.

I think you're fighting the slaver faction currently.

Oh i know about factions, i have completed the Refugee Center questlines a few times now. But last time i played the only raider/slaver bases you could find were little wooden palisade fortresses in the wilderness with like 10ish people and few guns. These fuckers are way better equipped and organized, and there is a lot more of them

Yeah it's a bigger raider base

Super Aggro Crag wrote:well, it is the apocalips

More like the apocaslips

Welp. Went back in the daytime. This time i did actually get killed. Turns out experimental Z levels fucked me. I got shot to death my turrets/bots in the basement below the base with no way for them to see me or me them. Also i discovered the reason i can not loot guns from the raiders is that they are all equipped with "none". Apparently "none" can still shoot bullets/work like a baseball bat when they wield them. I am starting to see Anon3's point about experimental builds. I just savescummed to avoid death bug

Yeah in the latest experimentals survivor guns are bugged so you can't actually use what they use on you.

I enabled Crazy Cataclysm and got eaten by Shia Labeouf

What's crazy cataclysm?

It's a mod you can install when you create a world. It enables joke monsters like the Thriller zombie, Shia, a few joke items like Granades which do crazy insane shit (named after game dev) and a bunch of other things. I have it off now though.

My game has those by default.

I cast Animate Dead and boot up this thread and the program again.

Hey what up

Been playing this game a shitload lately on the latest experimentals. Shit is so cash

What are they like?

Lots of new content and a ton of new locations if you activate the appropriate mods. Have not yet tried the NPC questlines but i think they might have been extended somewhat as well

Did they put some balance into martial arts?

Melee seems to have overall recieved a bit of a nerf, as well as requiring stamina now. It is certainly more difficult to make a horrendously overpowered character on chargen, but still possible

Not bad, provided sniping has become slightly more viable.

I bet tai chi and aikido are still utterly useless, though.

Yeah i think weapon ranges have been improved a bit, but they are still abysmally short. I literally have trouble hitting a zombie across the street on the police sniper start. What the fuck

Maybe the Bethesda solution applies: mods will fix it.

I'm a huge fan of Scorpion Style barehanded. It's raw damage is a hair lower than high end melee weapons, but you don't have to carry weapons and every crit is a multi-turn stun. Starting with it and the Razor Girl profession uses up all your points*, but it's worth it. Really I'm a big fan of the Razor Girl/Boy profession as a whole. First, the name is awesome, as are the implications of your gear. More importantly, you start out with SUPERB damage resistance, thanks to leather gear and subdermal armor, and a bunch of passive bionics that make life WAY easier. Drop a point in Dodge, a point in Unarmed, and a point or two in Dex and you start the game more than capable of beating several enemies to death barehanded.

*Though you can have a few extra if you max out on negative traits

Scorp style has always been op as fuck forever. Trying a wilderness outdoorsman start with a mod called PK's rebalancing. Makes the world gen way more unforgiving. I have died 4 times, 3 of those were due to me spawning three map tiles from an anthill or triffid grove.

see if you can find a silo.

only through the purity of nuclear hellfire may they truly atone for their sins.

edit: make sure you buff your computers or science or whatever it is, it's been a while since i played but i remember the launch consoles having fucking ludicrious skill requirements, and if you fail, you're lucky if it just locks you out of the computer

edit 2: wow thats a whole other page of posts fuck

Nuke silos have piles of loot in them too. Shame they only nuke a 3 by 3 square on the map

Didn't know scorpion was that OP, I always bought krav.

Krav is good, as well as very versatile as it works with a few melee weapons. High level scorpion lets you easily kill hulks in h2h

Yes, but they're so good they relegate almost everything else to support roles.
I want a ninjutsu build that isn't memes.

Ninjitsu struggles from it's supposed advantage (silent melee) being not that important, since a) them hitting you will still make noise and b) hand to hand attacks don't make that much noise to begin with.

I guess I'll just have to learn how to mod.

Maybe that's something the /asp/ies on /mag/ can actually help me with.

One thing I fucking hate is that they changed how cars work. They now need a set level of battery power to start, and since they changed that I have not seen a single car with enough battery to turn on. This means that you basically can not have a basic car until you get mechanics high enough to attach solar panels, since you can not manually refill them with batteries anymore

Pedal.

Build a generator station at your base with a removable storage battery, pedals, and an alternator (may be optional).

Sit down in the pedals and accelerate to maximum, you'll generate some juice in the battery, then can remove it and take it with you for a swap. Alternatively build a shopping cart with a battery storage in it and use jumper cables to start cars with it. Bonus points you can fill the cart with extra tires, fuel cans, etc.

While those are all viable solutions, by the time you are able to do all that it is probably easier to just bolt a single solar panel on and wait a few hours. Not really a huge obstacle, but it used to be nice to find the rare functional car super early game to make things a bit easier at the risk of making a bit more noise

The obstacle you said was mechanic skill, not time.

True enough, but i am mostly sad about pick up and go cars being gone. Can you make a battery charger rig like that at skill 2? And will pedals with an alternator charge the battery? That is some hilarious Wile E Coyote type shit

Is there a lazy newb pack for this?

I mean not really, basically everything is contained within the game other than some of the crazier mods, which you probably will not want to mess with at first anyways. If you want the stable version with less features go Cooper, otherwise get the latest experimental. Be sure to download the tiles version of the game even if you want to play with the ASCII graphics, it has sound compatibility where the console does not.

Experimental is relatively stable, put in a LOT of hours lately and have only had one crash. You can also configure the autosave feature so you do not lose much progress

It makes sense though. IRL attaching two pedals to a dynamo or generator and connecting it to a battery would work.

Cdda needs a poo poo and pee pee system so you can dig a latrine and scabenge for TP in military bases. Grind ur fabrication skill to make your own.