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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:00 am #44841

1.5x damage*
oracle doesnt have a huge skill cap like people think, he's just really easy to fuck up with
just dont use fate's edict on a teammate unless they're in a safe position
if they aren't, use some other type of heal, like a mek or urn
false promise people who you don't want to die, obviously. if they enemy has no vision, it's much easier for them to get away. heal them as much as possible during false promise to 1. make sure they dont die 2. allow them to come back into the fight
its much safer to use fate's edict on someone who is false promised and then purify them, since they're much less likely to be hurt and the healing is doubled

also note that fortune's end damage doesnt scale with channeling time, only the purge and stop does. so if you just want to nuke someone, cancel the channeling immediately. if you want to pseudo-stun them, channel for longer.
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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:02 pm #44993

hello im from the future

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:03 pm #44994

wait until ppl start picking oracle + huskar or oracle + lc

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:02 am #46309

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Re: doter 2

Postby ColonicAcid » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:16 pm #46463

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:48 pm #46485

nsos wrote:wait until ppl start picking oracle + huskar or oracle + lc



1/2th of the prophecy is foretold

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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:07 pm #48798

this pudge on my team built 2 hyperstones because he thought 144 was a lot of damage and that he should right click more
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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:53 pm #48827

sounds viable

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Re: doter 2

Postby Scones » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:49 pm #49810

i keep trying to get into this game but god damn it is so frustrating to learn

i'd like to think i have a solid foundation from wc3/league but some things just elude me

where's a good place to look at resources for the game? what items to buy/what characters to play/how to play them

i like night stalker and legion commander, though. not sure if they're at all meta.
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:00 pm #49812

Cecily wrote:i keep trying to get into this game but god damn it is so frustrating to learn

i'd like to think i have a solid foundation from wc3/league but some things just elude me

where's a good place to look at resources for the game? what items to buy/what characters to play/how to play them

i like night stalker and legion commander, though. not sure if they're at all meta.

NS hasn't been good for months. Still stomps pubs and wins pro games with the right support.

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Re: doter 2

Postby Scones » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:02 pm #49813

cedarbridge wrote:NS hasn't been good for months. Still stomps pubs and wins pro games with the right support.


He's really fun. It's his lack of innate survivability that gets me killed, although I'm aware I'm supposed to build to compensate that.

How's LC?
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:52 pm #49823

Cecily wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:NS hasn't been good for months. Still stomps pubs and wins pro games with the right support.


He's really fun. It's his lack of innate survivability that gets me killed, although I'm aware I'm supposed to build to compensate that.

How's LC?

LC functionally has to snowball by design or they go to shit fast. Similar to NS without the time restrictions.

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Re: doter 2

Postby ColonicAcid » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:03 pm #49901

LC is literally the most gold effective hero you can get.
You don't build for damage, you build tanky. Tanky items are the most gold effective shit you can get. The only pure damage items I would say you can get is a deadalus, everything else is undeeded in LC because LOL FREE DAMAGE.
Focus the support early game and get that damage up, then later on your ult is a free kill on carries, if for example they have a Void or PA just make someone get a Heavens Halberd and lmao git wrekd.
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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:56 pm #49921

also overwhelming odds is like a tiny ranged echo slam but without the rebound
aka it does more damage with more units nearby
watch as broodmother's health drops to 25%
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Re: doter 2

Postby dezzmont » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:02 am #49946

LC is great. She seems to be exclusively designed to snowball but she can provide a lot of utility without winning those duels as long as you are not the sole carry. Overwhelming odds is decently damaging, W is fantastic to throw on the carry or god forbid tiny, and her ultimate is a near instant kill if you use it well. She combos so well with Tiny because she can boost his attack speed, get thrown in, and then have a stun thrown out during the duel.

Of course ideally you can blink in and land a good duel a few times early game.

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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:06 am #49950

Just turned a 17-3 catastrophe into a win with Necro. I don't know why I never played this hero before holy shit.

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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:13 am #49954

necro is the king of kill securing
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:28 am #49959

miggles wrote:necro is the king of kill securing

He's also king of "fuck you get to the back of the bus and enjoy spectating." Being able to delete the enemy Tiny at 50% was pretty great too.

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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:42 am #50183

necro is a white supremacist
fuck rosa parks

i played in a low priority game with some friends because one of them was in LP and i decided to play fifa hero because why not
hes good, i made some pretty awesome plays
including what would have been a sick headshot kill if it did just a little more damage
but those kicks man, those kicks are tough

what do you even build on him? positional items? aghs if you can get it?
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:27 am #50227

miggles wrote:fifa hero

uwot

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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:51 am #50238

earth spirit bruh
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:12 am #50243

I don't think it even matters what you build on him.

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:40 am #51141

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:42 am #51142

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Re: doter 2

Postby Sum Ting Wong » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:48 am #51147

>Darkness no longer pauses the day/night timer
NS viable ganker now?
>Ancient Granite Golem now has an aura which grants 15% bonus health to its allies
>Test of Faith now teleports all of your units to you when cast on yourself
Chen OP

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Re: doter 2

Postby Peble » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:54 am #51149

more ugly cosmetics great work valve
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:59 am #51252

Sum Ting Wong wrote:>Darkness no longer pauses the day/night timer
NS viable ganker now?
>Ancient Granite Golem now has an aura which grants 15% bonus health to its allies
>Test of Faith now teleports all of your units to you when cast on yourself
Chen OP

Chen's still awful

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Re: doter 2

Postby ColonicAcid » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:11 pm #51267

>Chen
>awful
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:06 pm #51367

ColonicAcid wrote:>Chen
>awful
Str8 from the trench.

Its true though. He's ass.

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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:27 pm #51629

lol cedar has like 3k hours cloddiu

also i just had the most intense game of dota in my life
Spoiler:
>we push down their mid rax
>ursa decides to buy a rapier cus lol
>rapier changes hands at least 5 times, i was lucky enough to have my greedy (i was BH) mitts on it once
>enemy morphling is prime carrier of the rapier
>they push down to our ancient in like 5 seconds
>manage to kill them somehow
>buy BoT, travel to their base
>bad idea, die
>like 15 minutes of teamfights in both bases
>they push back to our ancient and get it below 100 hp (seriously it was so close)
>i try to stop them, get almost killed but shadow walk out with 50 hp
>urn up, almost die again, theyre focused on killing our team now
>zeus ults twice, ursa fucks them up, almost all of them are tracked and we manage to kill morph
>medusa gets the rapier and tps to their base
>their necro and morph buyback
>dieback
>gorgonzola single handedly destroys the ancient
GG
fuck tho if ursa hadnt gotten that rapier we could have won a lot easier
but it was so much more fun that he did
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Re: doter 2

Postby dezzmont » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:02 pm #51750

The rapier is the summon guns of DOTA. There are better ways to go about it but for real give everyone guns or you are a shitty wizard who hates fun.

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:50 pm #52651

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:50 pm #52652

i sure hope you are buying aghs on 6.83 ns now

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:51 pm #52653

im pretty sure aghs gem is the best build for winning pubs with NS.

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:18 am #59194

i seen a guy with 588 games with viper

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Re: doter 2

Postby nsos » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:18 am #59195

like do u hate humanity that much

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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:27 am #59251

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Re: doter 2

Postby Sum Ting Wong » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:40 am #59253

Fuck techies

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Re: doter 2

Postby iRazgriz » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:33 am #59328

Zeus in 5k MMR games?

No probs))
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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:33 am #59493

you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great
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Re: doter 2

Postby cedarbridge » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:58 pm #59721

miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great

This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)

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Re: doter 2

Postby dezzmont » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:07 pm #59724

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Re: doter 2

Postby ColonicAcid » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:35 pm #59727

cedarbridge wrote:
miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great

This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)

>gank him once early game
lol enjoy your no levels zoos
hes high risk high reward honestly. If they do what team empire did to dendi in the asian championships hes fucking useless. actually no he can show invisible heroes that is his biggest strength when hes behind lmao
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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:16 pm #59773

well sniping kills is legit if it means securing a kill someone else couldnt get or would die trying to
if you do it just to steal kills though youre doing everything correctly bad

also its really hard for zeus to be that far behind because he practically needs no items to be effective. like the only core items are bottle, boots, and force staff. everything else really helps, but isnt at all necessary.
if he gets ganked early he can sort of kind of jungle a little bit with his q (small camps pretty much), or just assist with kills/ganks. no matter the level, a 100/175/275/350 damage nuke that provides vision, true sight, and ministuns on a 6 second cooldown is REALLY good.
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Re: doter 2

Postby iRazgriz » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:19 am #59896

cedarbridge wrote:
miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great

This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)

Partially incorrect. A smoke of deceit can save your ass if you're running and low on HP, as being invis protects you from the damage.
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Re: doter 2

Postby Vekter » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:18 am #59910

I'm so bad at this game, save for 2 heroes: Axe and Faceless.

I shouldn't be proud of that.
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Re: doter 2

Postby iRazgriz » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:34 pm #59930

Vekter wrote:I'm so bad at this game, save for 2 heroes: Axe and Faceless.

I shouldn't be proud of that.


No you shouldn't.
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Re: doter 2

Postby miggles » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:25 pm #60005

axe is one of my favorite heroes, dont be ashamed of being good at him
FV is also pretty hard to play well except at super low levels because the enemy wont let you have the space you need to actually git gud and kill people
of course, with RNGesus on your side you can kill people with level 1 backtrack and time lock

if you get fed as FV though then gg you won the game
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Re: doter 2

Postby iRazgriz » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:21 am #60125

miggles wrote:axe is one of my favorite heroes, dont be ashamed of being good at him
FV is also pretty hard to play well except at super low levels because the enemy wont let you have the space you need to actually git gud and kill people
of course, with RNGesus on your side you can kill people with level 1 backtrack and time lock

if you get fed as FV though then gg you won the game


The issue is that it's hard to really shut down a Void, and Backtrack is ridicolously OP, as you cannot negate it even with mkb.
Also if in your team you have people like Sand King, WD, Lich or Juggernaut you don't even need to be able to kill people, just land a decent chrono.
Jug can ult into chrono yes.
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Re: doter 2

Postby Phalanx300 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:18 pm #60134

Sum Ting Wong wrote:Fuck techies


Techies is great fun, just mindfucking with everyone. I love to use smoke and go into Roshan cave to mine the crap out of it before using my TP to get out. Or sneaking into the enemy jungle its great fun. Though my favourite must be Lion, lots of utility and killing power.

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