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Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:03 pm
by nsos
Bottom post of the previous page:
wait until ppl start picking oracle + huskar or oracle + lc
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:02 am
by nsos
12 inch long bane-themed purple dildo
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:16 pm
by ColonicAcid
NIGHTMARE > Ready
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:48 pm
by nsos
nsos wrote:wait until ppl start picking oracle + huskar or oracle + lc
1/2th of the prophecy is foretold
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:07 pm
by miggles
this pudge on my team built 2 hyperstones because he thought 144 was a lot of damage and that he should right click more
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:53 pm
by nsos
sounds viable
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:49 pm
by Scones
i keep trying to get into this game but god damn it is so frustrating to learn
i'd like to think i have a solid foundation from wc3/league but some things just elude me
where's a good place to look at resources for the game? what items to buy/what characters to play/how to play them
i like night stalker and legion commander, though. not sure if they're at all meta.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:00 pm
by cedarbridge
Cecily wrote:i keep trying to get into this game but god damn it is so frustrating to learn
i'd like to think i have a solid foundation from wc3/league but some things just elude me
where's a good place to look at resources for the game? what items to buy/what characters to play/how to play them
i like night stalker and legion commander, though. not sure if they're at all meta.
NS hasn't been good for months. Still stomps pubs and wins pro games with the right support.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:02 pm
by Scones
cedarbridge wrote:
NS hasn't been good for months. Still stomps pubs and wins pro games with the right support.
He's really fun. It's his lack of innate survivability that gets me killed, although I'm aware I'm supposed to build to compensate that.
How's LC?
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:52 pm
by cedarbridge
Cecily wrote:cedarbridge wrote:
NS hasn't been good for months. Still stomps pubs and wins pro games with the right support.
He's really fun. It's his lack of innate survivability that gets me killed, although I'm aware I'm supposed to build to compensate that.
How's LC?
LC functionally has to snowball by design or they go to shit fast. Similar to NS without the time restrictions.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:03 pm
by ColonicAcid
LC is literally the most gold effective hero you can get.
You don't build for damage, you build tanky. Tanky items are the most gold effective shit you can get. The only pure damage items I would say you can get is a deadalus, everything else is undeeded in LC because LOL FREE DAMAGE.
Focus the support early game and get that damage up, then later on your ult is a free kill on carries, if for example they have a Void or PA just make someone get a Heavens Halberd and lmao git wrekd.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:56 pm
by miggles
also overwhelming odds is like a tiny ranged echo slam but without the rebound
aka it does more damage with more units nearby
watch as broodmother's health drops to 25%
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:02 am
by dezzmont
LC is great. She seems to be exclusively designed to snowball but she can provide a lot of utility without winning those duels as long as you are not the sole carry. Overwhelming odds is decently damaging, W is fantastic to throw on the carry or god forbid tiny, and her ultimate is a near instant kill if you use it well. She combos so well with Tiny because she can boost his attack speed, get thrown in, and then have a stun thrown out during the duel.
Of course ideally you can blink in and land a good duel a few times early game.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:06 am
by cedarbridge
Just turned a 17-3 catastrophe into a win with Necro. I don't know why I never played this hero before holy shit.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:13 am
by miggles
necro is the king of kill securing
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:28 am
by cedarbridge
miggles wrote:necro is the king of kill securing
He's also king of "fuck you get to the back of the bus and enjoy spectating." Being able to delete the enemy Tiny at 50% was pretty great too.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:42 am
by miggles
necro is a white supremacist
fuck rosa parks
i played in a low priority game with some friends because one of them was in LP and i decided to play fifa hero because why not
hes good, i made some pretty awesome plays
including what would have been a sick headshot kill if it did just a little more damage
but those kicks man, those kicks are tough
what do you even build on him? positional items? aghs if you can get it?
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:27 am
by cedarbridge
miggles wrote:fifa hero
uwot
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:51 am
by miggles
earth spirit bruh
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:12 am
by cedarbridge
I don't think it even matters what you build on him.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:40 am
by nsos
Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:42 am
by nsos
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Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:48 am
by Sum Ting Wong
>Darkness no longer pauses the day/night timer
NS viable ganker now?
>Ancient Granite Golem now has an aura which grants 15% bonus health to its allies
>Test of Faith now teleports all of your units to you when cast on yourself
Chen OP
Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:54 am
by Peble
more ugly cosmetics great work valve
Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:59 am
by cedarbridge
Sum Ting Wong wrote:>Darkness no longer pauses the day/night timer
NS viable ganker now?
>Ancient Granite Golem now has an aura which grants 15% bonus health to its allies
>Test of Faith now teleports all of your units to you when cast on yourself
Chen OP
Chen's still awful
Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:11 pm
by ColonicAcid
>Chen
>awful
Str8 from the trench.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:06 pm
by cedarbridge
ColonicAcid wrote:>Chen
>awful
Str8 from the trench.
Its true though. He's ass.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:27 pm
by miggles
lol cedar has like 3k hours cloddiu
also i just had the most intense game of dota in my life
Re: doter 2
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:02 pm
by dezzmont
The rapier is the summon guns of DOTA. There are better ways to go about it but for real give everyone guns or you are a shitty wizard who hates fun.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:50 pm
by nsos
DAY walker Night Stalker
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:50 pm
by nsos
i sure hope you are buying aghs on 6.83 ns now
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:51 pm
by nsos
im pretty sure aghs gem is the best build for winning pubs with NS.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:18 am
by nsos
i seen a guy with 588 games with viper
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:18 am
by nsos
like do u hate humanity that much
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:27 am
by miggles
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:40 am
by Sum Ting Wong
Fuck techies
Re: doter 2
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:33 am
by iRazgriz
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:33 am
by miggles
you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:58 pm
by cedarbridge
miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great
This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:07 pm
by dezzmont
miggles wrote:
I love you.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:35 pm
by ColonicAcid
cedarbridge wrote:miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great
This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)
>gank him once early game
lol enjoy your no levels zoos
hes high risk high reward honestly. If they do what team empire did to dendi in the asian championships
hes fucking useless. actually no he can show invisible heroes that is his biggest strength when hes behind lmao
Re: doter 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:16 pm
by miggles
well sniping kills is legit if it means securing a kill someone else couldnt get or would die trying to
if you do it just to steal kills though youre doing everything correctly bad
also its really hard for zeus to be that far behind because he practically needs no items to be effective. like the only core items are bottle, boots, and force staff. everything else really helps, but isnt at all necessary.
if he gets ganked early he can sort of kind of jungle a little bit with his q (small camps pretty much), or just assist with kills/ganks. no matter the level, a 100/175/275/350 damage nuke that provides vision, true sight, and ministuns on a 6 second cooldown is REALLY good.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:19 am
by iRazgriz
cedarbridge wrote:miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great
This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)
Partially incorrect. A smoke of deceit can save your ass if you're running and low on HP, as being invis protects you from the damage.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:18 am
by Vekter
I'm so bad at this game, save for 2 heroes: Axe and Faceless.
I shouldn't be proud of that.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:34 pm
by iRazgriz
Vekter wrote:I'm so bad at this game, save for 2 heroes: Axe and Faceless.
I shouldn't be proud of that.
No you shouldn't.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:25 pm
by miggles
axe is one of my favorite heroes, dont be ashamed of being good at him
FV is also pretty hard to play well except at super low levels because the enemy wont let you have the space you need to actually git gud and kill people
of course, with RNGesus on your side you can kill people with level 1 backtrack and time lock
if you get fed as FV though then gg you won the game
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:21 am
by iRazgriz
miggles wrote:axe is one of my favorite heroes, dont be ashamed of being good at him
FV is also pretty hard to play well except at super low levels because the enemy wont let you have the space you need to actually git gud and kill people
of course, with RNGesus on your side you can kill people with level 1 backtrack and time lock
if you get fed as FV though then gg you won the game
The issue is that it's hard to really shut down a Void, and Backtrack is ridicolously OP, as you cannot negate it even with mkb.
Also if in your team you have people like Sand King, WD, Lich or Juggernaut you don't even need to be able to kill people, just land a decent chrono.
Jug can ult into chrono yes.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:18 pm
by Phalanx300
Sum Ting Wong wrote:Fuck techies
Techies is great fun, just mindfucking with everyone. I love to use smoke and go into Roshan cave to mine the crap out of it before using my TP to get out. Or sneaking into the enemy jungle its great fun. Though my favourite must be Lion, lots of utility and killing power.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:17 am
by cedarbridge
iRazgriz wrote:cedarbridge wrote:miggles wrote:you act like zeus isnt a top tier hero
hes a pretty common pick in pro games, because hes great
This is true. Thundergod's Wrath is a x5 big damage nuke that cannot miss. That's a big deal in a teamfight. (now how most pub game scrubs use it to snipe kills off other players because lelzoos)
Partially incorrect. A smoke of deceit can save your ass if you're running and low on HP, as being invis protects you from the damage.
This would be relevant if people actually did stupid things like pop smoke in the middle of teamfights and if it worked.
Also, nobody drafts a team with the idea "I can't pick that guy they'll gank him!!!" Stop getting ganked scrub.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:55 pm
by ColonicAcid
>nobody drafts a team with the idea "I can't pick that guy they'll gank him!!!"
>hello this is mr. Nevermore I would like to speak to a señor cedarbridge.
Re: doter 2
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:14 pm
by cedarbridge
ColonicAcid wrote:>nobody drafts a team with the idea "I can't pick that guy they'll gank him!!!"
>hello this is mr. Nevermore I would like to speak to a señor cedarbridge.
Except he gets drafted all the time. I'm not seeing your point.