Wild Hogs Ride Again

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:35 pm #161547

Bottom post of the previous page:

If we soften up smaller targets around the town can we make it easier to capture? I dont want these goatfuckers to think we are gonna give up easy

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:52 pm #161551

An0n3 wrote:Cappy and I have ushered in a new era of PMC fashion for the Hogs.

You may have ushered in a new era, but I was the only one rescued from the island.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:58 pm #161552

Didn't that chopper get shot down too?

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:01 pm #161553

After I pissed off a BMP to end it, since the mission was obviously bugged from the Chinook being assblasted

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:20 pm #161557

Someone mentioned maybe standardizing our loadouts so that we can share gear in the field (read: scavenge more mags off of dead operatives).

Anyone interested in this?

I think the simple solution is to all use the M4 platform, but that's kinda boring and there are better options.

Possible choices include:
M4 Platform (ho-ah!)
AK Platform (cheeky that breeky)
XM8 (+2 movement speed in water)
CZ 805 (glorious czechnology)
AUG (bullpup is best pup)
TAR (goy blaster)
Mk16 (future gun nobody cared to use)
Mk17 (bigger future gun nobody cared to use)

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

EDIT: I would mention sidearm but come on.
Everyone is rocking that DEAGLE BAYBEEEEEEEE

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:23 pm #161559

My obviously biased vote is towards the fishgun, isnt 30rd STANAG good for a couple other rifles? I am not terribly picky anyways though. AUG is always nice but i would rather have a less zoomed scope for medium range firefights

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:28 pm #161562

K-64 wrote:
An0n3 wrote:Cappy and I have ushered in a new era of PMC fashion for the Hogs.
You may have ushered in a new era, but I was the only one rescued from the island.

Bro please look at this fresh outfit

Wyzack wrote:My obviously biased vote is towards the fishgun, isnt 30rd STANAG good for a couple other rifles? I am not terribly picky anyways though. AUG is always nice but i would rather have a less zoomed scope for medium range firefights

They are compatible with a few different weapon systems, yeah.
I believe the AUG, M4, Mk16, CZ 805 A1, and TAR can all share mags(?). They're all 5.56mm NATO.
Likewise the AK family comes in two separate flavors (big and small) that can share mags within their grouping
The Mk17 and CZ-805-B2 might be able to share mags as well (they're 7.62mm NATO).

My vote is for the Mk17. It has a ton of different configurations and the cartridge is large enough to shit all over the body armor most OPFOR are likely to be wearing. It's a bit on the heavy side overall though.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:01 pm #161578

Out of those choices, I'd say the CZ 805 probably. Although I've been doing rather well with the KH2002. Since it's a kebab gun, resupplying in the field isn't as much an issue either.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:07 pm #161606

Grabbed a steam card so I will pick up the marksman dlc and maybe mario kart dlc too

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:40 pm #161614

An0n3 wrote: Possible choices include:
M4 Platform (ho-ah!)
AK Platform (cheeky that breeky)
XM8 (+2 movement speed in water)
CZ 805 (glorious czechnology)
AUG (bullpup is best pup)
TAR (goy blaster)
Mk16 (future gun nobody cared to use)
Mk17 (bigger future gun nobody cared to use)

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

AK Platform sounds good, however the TAR is always my second choice

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:36 am #161651

It was all a ruse.

The FN FAL was always the weapon of choice.

Hog logistics had a meeting and we decided that anything that uses 30 round STANAG is fair game.

So you can still snowflake and flaunt your obscure hipster rifle but just make sure it uses mags the rest of us can scavenge off your inevitable corpse.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:31 am #161677

We should probably try and make a list of compatible guns for that, just to make things slightly easier for choosing which one.

Also Hog tank battalion is best tank battalion

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:36 am #161683

Off the top of my head...

The entire M4 family
The entire M16 Family
CZ 801 A1 and A2
AUG
L85A1
Mk16
Tar-21

Maybe more, but at least those.

peoplearestrange · Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:41 pm

The thing is we still need some specialisation, as having an MG can be really useful in cityscapes for suppressing fire, and they're just too heavy to carry anything else other than extra ammo.

Its also REALLY useful if at least 1 of the ground squads have a 117 radio to talk to any vehicles who might be sitting outside the limit of the 148/152, though I admit thats only happened like once (when we attacked the city).

A sniper/DMR is pretty useful when it comes to night missions for spotting targets too, imho.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:15 pm #161768

For those weapons, I don't think it's quite as important, considering we've currently only got the numbers to field one at a time at most. On that note though, Anon really should be using AI squads to help bolster our numbers for attacking the more dug-in places. Having a few dozen meatshields makes all the difference, even if they are dumb as bricks.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:47 pm #161783

I will switch back to the glorious rifle of the free world, FN stands for Freedom and Napalm i bet. Although the mk17 is quite nice, cleared out that airfeild of 7/8 tangos without getting shot once

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:00 am #161892

peoplearestrange wrote:-snip-

Positionals like that aren't compatible with anything else regardless. If you're crawling over to the downed DM, Sniper, or Autorifleman to scavenge for something you're likely going to be hot-swapping for their entire weapon system over whatever you were using in the first place.

Then again, if we're in a situation where they're getting downed for one reason or another, you probably don't want what they have anyway.

tl;dr Our 30 round STANAG rule doesn't apply to those guys by nature of their roles in the team.
I mean, you may as well take it to the next logical conclusion that we shouldn't drive around in technicals or tanks because they don't use 30 round STANAG either.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:12 am #161895

Well, one of my marksman loadouts does use the STANAG mags as well, but that's the one that's the squad marksman rather than the lone wolf snowflakey one, if that makes any sense

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:09 am #161899

Blegh. 5.56mm is terrible as a DMR round. It's fast but it arcs like a motherfucker and splatters off kebab body armor at 400m+. It's also a lighter round that gets deflected further by wind.

7.62mm holds up better at intermediate ranges (400-600) and delivers a lot more energy to the target. If you're looking for something that can hold its own at range but not be too cumbersome for close in work that's prettymuch exactly what 7.62mm NATO was designed to do. You want a "battle rifle".

Alternatively you could pack a regular 5.56mm rifle and kit out something like a .454 casull Raging Bull for use at long range. It's something that probably shouldn't work, but does because >video games.

Maccus · Post by **Maccus** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:10 am #161935

Would one need to download 30 different mods to join in like we had to for the old Wild Hogs?

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:13 pm #161973

Actually only 19. It is still about 1.6 gigs though, and you need to use one of the worst pieces of software ever designed by human hands

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:48 pm #161995

Is there a way to force civvies out of their vehicles other than apply bullet to face? I really needed this dude's truck last night but i ended up having to ventilate him for it. I felt kinda bad, he ended up being one of like 7 people i killed all night. Truck was tight though, will it still be at the FoB when the mission is reloaded?

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:50 pm #161997

It's really not a huge hassle, it's just that the software is really fucking slow to download stuff.

1) Install PlayWithSix
2) Subscribe to Wild Hogs mod pack
3) Click Install
4) Wait 400 years

It's worth it. You get to operate with these fashionable nice guys

With your choice of Cowboy hat or Fedora. Just last night we unlocked our new hot whip that can drop 155mm HEAT rounds anywhere on the entire continent. Aww yeh gurllllllllllll

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:54 pm #161998

I have since moved on to the Beret lyfe. My only regret is that i can not have the wild hogs logo on my beret, and am instead stuck with this pleb NATO one

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:55 pm #161999

For serious though there are some really fucking OPR8r moments like when you're flying with your homies in a little bird under cover of night in a torrential rain to go fuck some kebab's day up.

It's a weird combination of badass and really comfy.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:58 pm #162000

I still need to learn how to properly autorotate when the anti-torque is shot to hell in that thing. If it's just the main rotor that's inoperable, I can autorotate 9 times out of 10, but when both are fucked, then all bets are off.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:05 pm #162001

It is kinda strange how comfy it can be just chillin around the FOB trying out cool hats and new sidearms, only to moments later halo jump into a besieged airfeild to single handedly remove kebab or get embroiled in some absolutely vicious urban bloodbaths like our failed city assault. Anon3 took some pretty good video of the carnage. We still need to conquer that place actually

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:14 pm #162002

We might be able to do that the next session, considering we now have some proper artillery, plus resources to build some tanks and/or CAS. Throw a few AI squads in there and we should be able to either blitzkrieg the place, or win through sheer attrition.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:18 pm #162004

I'm down to opr8 whenever you guys are. Have the day off.

Going to set my HOTAS stuff back up so I can proper fly in Arma 3. Sick of this mouse and keyboard shit.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:21 pm #162005

Also god damn the DLC system in this game is shit. Gating a whole class of rifles and vehicles each behind a fucking 18 dollar DLC is pretty shit. Bought the marksman pack, tried my hand at running my own liberation game just to practice and I cant set up a goddamn FOB because i cant fly the chopper.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:29 pm #162007

Freedom isn't free

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:30 pm #162008

I mean i was probably just going to crash it anyways due to my total lack of experience but ya know, its the principal

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:43 pm #162021

Using a 360 wired controller to fly is surprisingly good. The way it navigates the UI is a little wonky (the d-pad inputs are kinda mysterious and I"m worried I may accidentally dive out of the helo if I try to use them) but the sticks and throttle are great.

Got shot down while doing some test flying/recon and ended up getting into this mess:

[youtube]Y8TuUQleyyE[/youtube]

Note: The Sig-556 is a fucking BEAST.
Pinpoint accuracy, 20 round mags of 7.62mm REAL-FUCKIN-NATO

I've tried a lot of intermediate rifles and I think this one is by far the best.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:41 am #162165

It's a pretty rad gun. The full-auto and increased mag does make it better for the closer stuff than the Noreen.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:57 am #162166

IMO the only time you ever want to rock and roll full-auto is when you're providing covering fire or room-clearing.

7.62mm covering fire sucks unless you've wheeze'd one of fuck-huge MG's to the front. The individual mags are too tiny at 20 rounds a pop and you can never carry enough 7.62mm around that you can afford to throw a whole mag or two of it away just making people sit still.

Room clearing sucks shit with any fullsize rifle. The barrel gets caught up on doorways and it's slow to swing around.

To their credit some of the 7.62mm platforms can be pretty controllable under full-auto. The Mk17 and 556 don't jump as much as the FN FAL does or the EBR (holy shit why is that even select fire fuck that trigger group). Still though they're flying all over the place compared to full-sized 5.56mm rifles like the M16, Mk16, or L85A1. Even an M4 with enough shit bolted on to it to give it some weight and a grippod is better.

With the 556 I don't provide covering fire; if I can see someone I just range in and shoot them. I also don't clear rooms with it either, that's what the ol' FREEDOM TRAIN .50 AMERICAN ENTHUSIASM is for.

GOD BLESS

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:01 am #162168

Had some good ops today boys. Started off solo, nearly took a whole small town myself. Can we besiege that asshole town again tomorrow? We have completely surrounded it

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:12 am #162170

I'll be home from work Around 6pm EST. I'll throw the server up as soon as I've had dinner and play.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:55 pm #162299

Boop boop server is up

Post by **oranges** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:57 pm #162310

I cannot for the life of me figure out what times you guys play at

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:05 am #162315

right now if ANON3 PLS RESTART THE SERVER I NEED TO REMOVE KEBAB I AM GETTING THE SHAKES

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:18 pm #162440

Doubleposting for COVERT OPS.

Last night after everyone took off me and PAS geared up in tacticool black and parachuted into an occupied city with silenced firearms to wreck some havoc. Our original plan was to use our demolition charge on a church for lulz, but an APC kinda ruined our plans by being in the way. PAS got killed trying to put the charge on it instead. I managed to sneak around a shoot a few people before I too was killed. We didn't accomplish much but damn if it wasnt a ton of fun. Also PAS accidentally killed a bunch of surrendering kebabs who had besieged our base. I was going up to capture them when all of a sudden shells rain down and they all explode. I guess that is the Wild Hog way

peoplearestrange · Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:32 pm

Wyzack wrote:Also PAS accidentally killed a bunch of surrendering kebabs who had besieged our base. I was going up to capture them when all of a sudden shells rain down and they all explode. I guess that is the Wild Hog way

Artillery shells take a looooooong time to travel, but I have to say with the aid of a drone that round was pin-point accurate (on the surrendered kebobs)

There was a lot of friendly fire that day... I think I might have blown you up with the Apache's cannon as well...

That Apache run was pretty fun. Specially when we took heavy fire from a plane, lost the anti-torque rota. Anon3 desperately trying to wrestle with the controls whilst I tried to gun the shit out of the plane.
Anon3 "We're going down I cant control this!"
PAS "We got this, just a few more seconds!"
Anon3 "PAS my friend its been a pleasure sur-" *Impact with the ground and explosion*

Also finally managing to take that city!

oranges, we tend to play around midnight to 4am GMT (thats 00:00 - 04:00 UMT mil time)

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:38 pm #162474

Hah yeah I forgot about that. I was tactically operating around athira after my solo insertion, racked up a decent kill count too. I run to the upstairs of an empty house to bandage up and reload, only to randomly explode and die

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:58 am #162584

peoplearestrange wrote:That Apache run was pretty fun. Specially when we took heavy fire from a plane, lost the anti-torque rota.

[youtube]NlVHr9_6b2A[/youtube]

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:27 am #162587

Since we've gotten a few ops under our belts again and seem to have a good team dynamic going we could probably discuss preferred roles and all that. I'm not meaning full milsim type shit of once a rifleman always a rifleman having to call the officers sir type of shit. I'm meaning more if a mission has an AA slot or whatever and someone feels particularly confident about their abilities then they should take it kind of deal. Also recommendations for other folks based on observation of their actions/antics on the field.

Just please don't have it be that everyone wants to be the cawadoody sniper.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:19 pm #162622

Dibs calladoody sniper!

Real talk though I am fine staying a rifleman. Maybe I will go medic if I ever figure out how to use bandages on other players. Also how do blood packs work?

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:13 pm #162629

I actually have no idea. I've never needed to actually use them so far, since usually people die outright rather than be unconscious due to blood loss

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:16 pm #162645

whats the thing i had to do on github?

im going 2 try and play today.

K-64 · Post by **K-64** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:55 pm #162650

In Arma 3's main menu, go into Configure > Profile. Click edit then in the Squad URL, paste in https://github.com/K-64/WildHogs/blob/master/squad.xml . And then copy whatever is in Player ID and paste it in a post here so I can add that to the squad file.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:10 pm #162653

alright, i gotta set up all the mods manually and then i'll do it.

will be about 1 hour.

edit: anon u forgot my favourite gun, the FN 2000. Which is what I'll be using from now on god bless.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:48 pm #162658

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