[Trexter555] Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

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[Trexter555] Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

Postby trexter555 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:22 am #571036

Admin Name: Sylphet
Name/Byond Name: Honktide/Trexter555
When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Bagil
RoundID: 143121



Early on in the round, bunch of people are gathering infront of captain's office asking AI to open, which it didn't, so nobody got in. Later, I got my megaphone stolen so I chase after the guy with a fire extinguisher, accidentally hitting a sec officer once. Got disabler'd, dragged into maint, mask and headset removed, harmbatoned to severe bruising, dragged to brig, thrown in perma. Ahelped for it, got told it was an "ic issue" without being told why. Later, broke out of it. Saw the same seccie in a full riot suit so I started messing with him, punching him a few times (full riotsuit btw), slipped him and pocketed his flash and baton, which almost everyone usually does. Changeling geneticist rolls up, and cuffs the seccie. Cool, he's gonna get succ'd, so I follow them, where I punch the sec officer ONE time, and basically shittalk him. Geneticist slits seccie's throat with a saw, then saws him to death. Sylphet INSTANTLY bwoinks me asking why I "killed a security officer" so I explain that I didn't kill him, punching someone once isn't murdering them, this isn't manuel(sorry manuel mains its the truth) they completely brush this off and keep saying I killed him, then they note me for, and i quote, "Warned - Helped a changeling murder a sec officer who arrested them for legitimate reasons early in the shift. >>>Confrontational in ahelps<<<. Yes, I was a bit confrontational, because of both my earlier ahelp and now that I'm being accused of murdering a security officer for basically punching him once. I'd like to state that I have no ill will towards Sylphet, they're a trialmin, and I feel that making this complaint will both either clear the note/make it more informational, and help them be a better admin in the future.
Last edited by trexter555 on Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:02 am, edited 2 times in total.



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Re: [Trexter555] Admin Complaint: Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

Postby Armhulen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:37 am #571037

cobby is a stupid bastard that feeds be incorrect information at all costs, readding everything now
go to bed bro, she's not thinking about you.

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Re: [Trexter555] Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

Postby Sylphet » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:13 am #571039

Hi - Let's go through this post, and hopefully I can explain my thought processes a little bit better than I did in game. https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/143121

Early on in the round, bunch of people are gathering infront of captain's office asking AI to open, which it didn't, so nobody got in. Later, I got my megaphone stolen so I chase after the guy with a fire extinguisher, accidentally hitting a sec officer once. Got disabler'd, dragged into maint, mask and headset removed, harmbatoned to severe bruising, dragged to brig, thrown in perma. Ahelped for it, got told it was an "ic issue" without being told why.


My understanding of the situation here is that the sec officer was ordered by the captain to arrest you for breaking into the bridge, which he did. Whether the bridge break-in actually happened, I don't think that the sec officer knew either way. From their perspective, with the information that they had in this game built on misinformation, you had done something that made you valid for death or perma, under our rule 1 precedents :

Players who attempt to break into the captain's office, head of personnel's office, or the bridge at or near roundstart for no legitimate reason put themselves at risk for being legitimately killed by the captain, heads of staff, or security.


This is why I ruled it an IC issue. What I didn't know at the time is that the sec officer had harmbatonned you and stolen your headset. Looking back, I should have warned them against doing something like this, the sec officer was abusive, especially now knowing that they did it to several other people who weren't suspected of breaking into the bridge. While you were valid for that treatment, the others were not and he should have seen consequences for acting that way. I should absolutely have communicated it better in game, and I admit fault on that, but I stand by the fact that the first part of this was an IC issue, because they had that limited information and a direct order from the captain.

Later, broke out of it. Saw the same seccie in a full riot suit so I started messing with him, punching him a few times (full riotsuit btw), slipped him and pocketed his flash and baton, which almost everyone usually does. Changeling geneticist rolls up, and cuffs the seccie. Cool, he's gonna get succ'd, so I follow them, where I punch the sec officer ONE time, and basically shittalk him. Geneticist slits seccie's throat with a saw, then saws him to death.


Logs for the fight -

Spoiler:
[2020-07-30 01:52:08.340] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Central Primary Hallway (126,121,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:16.230] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) passive grab (NEWHP: 90.9) (Central Primary Hallway (126,122,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:20.685] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Central Primary Hallway (126,120,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:21.905] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has kicked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 89.8) (Central Primary Hallway (125,122,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:24.412] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has kicked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 88.7) (Central Primary Hallway (125,124,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:32.028] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Research and Development (112,101,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:35.895] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has punched Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 86.4) (Central Primary Hallway (127,119,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:43.627] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has punched Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 86.1) (Central Primary Hallway (124,114,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:44.303] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) has flashed(targeted) Trexter555/(Honktide) with the flash (NEWHP: 86.1) (Central Primary Hallway (124,115,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:44.982] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has punched Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 85.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:45.552] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) has flashed(targeted) Trexter555/(Honktide) with the flash (NEWHP: 86.1) (Central Primary Hallway (124,115,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:47.141] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has punched Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 84.2) (Central Primary Hallway (124,114,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:47.900] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) has stunned Trexter555/(Honktide) (NEWHP: 86.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:49.388] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (126,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:52.004] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Research Division (118,103,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:53.534] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) has shaken Trexter555/(Honktide) (NEWHP: 86.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (128,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:52:55.809] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has kicked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (128,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:01.999] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has kicks Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (131,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:02.000] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (131,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:06.105] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stung Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with mute sting (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (130,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:07.220] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "based" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:07.979] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stung Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with mute sting (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (130,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:08.401] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has handcuffed Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (130,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:09.179] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "fuck him up" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:11.878] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) passive grab (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:13.369] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) claps. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (124,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:16.810] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) claps. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (134,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:16.922] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:19.081] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has starts slicing the throat of Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:21.446] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:23.992] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has finishes slicing the throat of Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 81.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:24.942] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "get fucked" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (135,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:26.643] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has punched Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 65.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (135,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:27.345] SAY: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) "you fucker" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:30.398] SAY: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) "attacking clowns" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:33.092] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (134,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:33.313] SAY: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) "is a criminal offence" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:35.727] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (137,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:39.162] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) claps. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (136,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:42.164] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 66.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:45.008] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) claps. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:48.420] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the black shoes off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 66.7) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:50.562] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the insulated gloves off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 66.7) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:52.363] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the security HUDSunglasses off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 66.9) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:53.891] SAY: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) "take whatever you need" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:54.854] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the security backpack off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:55.383] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the security gas mask off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:55.517] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the security jumpskirt off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:55.645] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the bedsheet off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:56.964] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) claps. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:57.486] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:57.891] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "nah" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:58.610] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the riot helmet off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:53:59.014] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the riot suit off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:01.018] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "gonna commit space self" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:03.451] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "after this faggot dies" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:06.042] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has stripped the security bowman headset off Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) (NEWHP: 67.7) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:07.437] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with circular saw (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 56.6) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:08.810] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with circular saw (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 41.6) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:09.425] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) claps. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:09.570] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:10.208] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with circular saw (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 42.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:11.380] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with circular saw (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:11.385] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:12.744] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.7) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:12.937] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with circular saw (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 12.7) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:14.148] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with circular saw (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -2.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:15.259] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -2.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:15.751] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:16.516] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1.8) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:17.770] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1.8) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:19.036] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 2.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:20.197] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 2.3) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:21.591] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 7.5) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:24.831] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 14.8) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:26.845] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 14.8) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:28.144] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 21.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:29.457] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.4) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:30.602] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.4) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:31.786] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.4) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:33.394] SAY: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) "rip in piss" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:35.215] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) with bike horn (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 35.7) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:45.526] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) passive grab (NEWHP: 66.1) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (140,108,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:47.393] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 73.5) (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,106,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:50.005] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Starboard Maintenance (143,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:50.057] EMOTE: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) sneezes. (Research and Development (113,100,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:51.258] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has thrown Zybwivcz/(Mister Ostprussen) grab from tile in Starboard Maintenance (144,107,2) towards tile at Service Hallway (143,111,2) (NEWHP: 79.9) (Starboard Maintenance (144,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:54:51.259] ATTACK: Trexter555/(Honktide) has thrown Mister Ostprussen (Starboard Maintenance (144,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:04.917] EMOTE: Trexter555/(Honktide) sneezes. (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (141,107,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:11.852] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "ahem" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (136,96,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:13.416] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has shoved Some guy su/(Wapons Shellar) (NEWHP: 99.6) (Aft Primary Hallway (107,90,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:15.831] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has shoved Some guy su/(Wapons Shellar) (NEWHP: 99.6) (Aft Primary Hallway (107,89,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:17.184] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "the shitter who perma&#39;d me for no reason is now dead" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (136,96,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:19.801] ATTACK: I Can Hear Colors/(Beckett Lowstetter) has shoved Some guy su/(Wapons Shellar) (NEWHP: 99.6) (Aft Primary Hallway (107,77,2))
[2020-07-30 01:55:23.127] SAY: Trexter555/(Honktide) "and I have looted his corpse" (Secondary Starboard Maintenance (136,93,2))


Your story about the fight mostly checks out.

Sylphet INSTANTLY bwoinks me asking why I "killed a security officer" so I explain that I didn't kill him, punching someone once isn't murdering them, this isn't manuel(sorry manuel mains its the truth) they completely brush this off and keep saying I killed him, then they note me for, and i quote, "Warned - Helped a changeling murder a sec officer who arrested them for legitimate reasons early in the shift.


I think that it would have been better to say that by attacking the sec officer, you put them in a position where they were easy prey for the changeling, which is definitely not the same as killing them. The reason that I bwoinked you immediately, is because the sec officer ahelped it immediately. I was handling another ticket at the time, not watching over you with my finger on the ban button. Because of my earlier ruling, this looked to me as if you had hunted down the sec officer and murdered them in retaliation for doing their job, which, from our escalation policy :

You can't kill or maim security for trying to arrest you for legitimate reasons.


So this looked to me like a serious problem, no ? Like I said earlier, I feel that the first arrest was legitimate, given the false information. That's why the bwoink was so quick. Here, I should have gotten a better understanding of the situation before bwoinking you, because that caused my next mistake :

>>>Confrontational in ahelps<<<. Yes, I was a bit confrontational, because of both my earlier ahelp and now that I'm being accused of murdering a security officer for basically punching him once.


This is absolutely justified on your part. What I feel that I did wrong here is that I didn't communicate to you well enough why I ruled the initial ticket an IC issue. I also should have bwoinked the sec officer over his treatment of the other people on station. I didn't have a fully clear understanding of the situation, and I was also too confrontational myself. It's not exactly surprising, and completely fair, that you were too.

I'm usually comfortable standing behind my actions as an admin, but this one doesn't feel right. Because of my poor handling of both of these tickets, I'm going to lift this note.
Tell me how much you think that I should be thrown out of the nearest airlock !
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=27175

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Re: [Trexter555] Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

Postby trexter555 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:16 am #571040

thanks, i probably could've handled everything ic and ooc better, and you didn't deserve to get yelled at by a literal clown. i'll be retracting this complaint then if thats how it works

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Re: [Trexter555] Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

Postby Sylphet » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:21 am #571041

Alright - sorry again for my handling of this. If no one has anything to add, this can be closed whenever.
Tell me how much you think that I should be thrown out of the nearest airlock !
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=27175

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Re: [Trexter555] Sylphet - Bad note for an invalid reason

Postby Armhulen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:26 am #571043

Complaint retracted, what a wonderful resolution.
go to bed bro, she's not thinking about you.


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