Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

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Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by Hornygranny » #1468

THIS BOARD IS FOR SPECIFIC INSTANCES OF MODERATION OR ADMINISTRATIVE POWER ABUSE.
Use this template when posting an complaint:

Title:
[admin name] player name - fluff text
ie:
[GeorgeMelons] Pubbie - admin gib me

Post Content:
When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord):
Byond account and character name OR Discord name:
Admin:
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE:
Detailed summary:

Forum rules:
1. Global Forum rules apply
2. Peanut policy applies. See this thread: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44
3. Use the template. Failure to use the template will cause your appeal to take longer to be resolved, and the involved admin can request you to edit your post to include the template before giving a response.
4. This board is not for ban appeals. You may appeal a ban you do not agree with in the appropriate board. Ban appeals posted here will be moved or deleted.
5. This board is not for non-specific feedback. Anything not related to a specific incident of abuse should be posted in Admin Feedback.
6. This is not a place for complaints about forum/discord behaviour. You should use this board to report instances of abuse regarding moderation privileges on the forums and discord.
7. Code issues do not belong here. Code issues should be discussed with the appropriate parties in the matter chosen by their project leads.
8. No image macros, reaction images or memes anywhere in FNR. Any pictures posted should be screenshots or other evidence directly related to the thread.
9. Try to keep your appeal calm, concise, to the point, and properly formatted. No one likes to read a wall of text, or an angry ragey post. Permaban appeals are encouraged to be longer and more detailed than regular appeals, but remember to use proper formatting.
Last edited by Hulkamania on Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:11 am, edited 13 times in total.
Reason: Rule 2 changed
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Re: Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by MrStonedOne » #23510

Given that some people have decided that the steno rules are free to be ignored; I've decided to up the ante so the speak.

Repetitive ignoring of steno rules will lead to your FNR posting privileges being revoked until further notice
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Re: Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by MrStonedOne » #261482

New rules regarding the use of public logs in ban appeals, ban requests (if ever re-opened) and admin complaints:
  • The content of line must not be modified in any way.
    • This does not apply to adding context (as long as its clear that its added and not part of the original log)
    • Likewise, you are allowed to add formatting or emphasis as long as it does not appear deceptive
  • Any omissions of in between lines must be clearly marked in-line to the logs along with a brief description giving a rough amount of the lines removed, what they contained, and why they were removed
    • -snip-(500 lines of the clown slipping the hos in the other room removed for being irrelevant)
  • You must link to the log file you got the logs from to make it easier to validate the context
  • Air on the side of good faith, Its better to include too many context lines then not enough lines context lines
  • Expect onlookers to assume bad faith. If you omit details that are later deemed to be important people will assume you did it intentionally. This means doing due diligence when reviewing the logs for related or relevant bits.
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Re: Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by Rustledjimm » #423907

Rule change:

Old rule :2. If you are not an admin or directly involved with the complaint (You are the guy who was banned, you saw what happened, you were his victim, etc.) then do not post in the complaint.
New Rule: 2. If you are not directly involved with the complaint (You are the guy who was banned, you saw what happened, you were his victim, etc.) then do not post in the complaint.

Only the the OP, the admin the complaint is filed against, Headmins and GameMasters may freely post in complaints.

Players and other admins may still post if citing rules or logs like The Peanut Policy in Ban Appeals subforum.
So uhh, I'm an admin. Please leave feedback! Oops took me a while to strike that through.

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Re: Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by Nervere » #445308

Rule 2 is being completely supplanted with the peanut policy found in the ban appeals subforum. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44
We feel it's too restrictive with what players and admins can contribute to admin complaints, and part of maintaining an open and fair administration means that productive, on-topic, and civil discussion should still be permitted in complaints.
Don't take this as an excuse to be a jerk in complaints, your posts will still be put under scrutiny to determine if they're actually relevant to peanut policy.
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Re: Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by Hulkamania » #487728

Rules and template have been adjusted to allow for instances of forum/discord power abuse as well. This gives players a more open outlet to speak about these instances that the old rules did not take into account. The new rules are not an excuse for players to complain about how an admin acts in these mediums, but to give them a place to report abuse of administrator and moderator privileges which previously had no open route to do so.

The old Rule 6 has been split into the new Rule 6 and 7. The old format is kept here for reference:
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THIS BOARD IS FOR SPECIFIC INCIDENCES OF IN-GAME ADMIN ABUSE.
Use this template when posting an complaint:

Title:
[admin name] player name - fluff text
ie:
[GeorgeMelons] Pubbie - admin gib me

Post Content:
Byond account and character name:
Admin:
Time and Server(Bagil or Sybil) incident occurred:
ROUND ID HERE:
Detailed summary:

Forum rules:
1. Global Forum rules apply
2. Peanut policy applies. See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44
3. Use the template. Failure to use the template will cause your appeal to take longer to be resolved, and the banning admin can request you to edit your post to include the template before giving a response.
4. This board is not for ban appeals. You may appeal a ban you do not agree with in the appropriate board. Ban appeals posted here will be moved or deleted.
5. This board is not for non-specific feedback. Anything not related to a specific incident of abuse should be posted in Admin Feedback.
6. This board is not for forum issues or code issues. Forum issues should be brought up with the current managing administrator via IRC or PM. Code issues should be discussed with the appropriate parties in the matter chosen by their project leads.
7. No image macros, reaction images or memes anywhere in FNR. Any pictures posted should be screenshots or other evidence directly related to the thread.
8. Try to keep your appeal calm, concise, to the point, and properly formatted. No one likes to read a wall of text, or an angry ragey post. Permaban appeals are encouraged to be longer and more detailed than regular appeals, but remember to use proper formatting.
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Re: Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Post by tattle » #619336

From viewtopic.php?p=586754#p586754 :
MrStonedOne wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:40 am Alright, this is getting old, so im gonna end it once and for all.

New host ruling: Admin's banning conduct can not be the subject of an admin complaint. That is what appeals are for, and the appeal leading to the ban being overturn is the minimum bar required before a complaint can be filed that references the ban conduct.

You already have an appeal up, headmins know about it. Leave it at that.
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