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Do you intend to increase the transparency of adminning?

Postby fosstar » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:25 pm #435206

Generally stuff such as bans, APMS, and other stuff has remained private and censored from the logs, do you as headmins intend to increase the transparency offered there to allow players more eyes into admin decisionmaking?

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Re: Do you intend to increase the transparency of adminning?

Postby Nabski » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:27 pm #435210

People often say more personal things than they would be willing to say to everyone.
Making bans public would enable people to argue "Player Y did this and didn't get banned but I did (something very similar) and did this is unfair". No-one wants that except people getting banned for shitty toe-lining behaviors.

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Re: Do you intend to increase the transparency of adminning?

Postby Stickymayhem » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:29 pm #435211

Not really. While it may be nice, there's a lot of player protection to consider as well. Players can access their own ban info, we have already made more notes visible and generally speaking the only secret notes are necessary ones about metagaming and so on.

Being able to see every ban would offer chances to harass other players and isn't really necessary. The admin team has a good enough spectrum of opinion that most player perspectives are fairly represented, and admins are willing to report concerning behaviour to headmins when they see it.

With all major decisions and contested bans, discussion will be held publicly, but frankly this happens almost always.

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Re: Do you intend to increase the transparency of adminning?

Postby BeeSting12 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:46 pm #435219

We don't need public bans, admin PMs, or anything like that. If the players need to know something, I'll tell them through a town hall/auditorium thread. Otherwise, bans/admin PMs are between the admin team and the player in question.
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Re: Do you intend to increase the transparency of adminning?

Postby CitrusGender » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:21 am #435430

There's a reason admins are given secrecy in their PMs. It really undermines the process if everything they say to players is put under scrutiny and would make it easy for players to be harsh on admins who are "too soft" in their ahelps.

Public bans would cause a similar problem, we're already miles ahead of other servers by not blocking out ckeys, having public logs, public ban appeals: we're in a good spot.
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Re: Do you intend to increase the transparency of adminning?

Postby wubli » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:33 pm #437244

No intention of making bans public. There have been many complaints regarding admin behavior and logs have never been kept completely hidden to save anyone's ass - if you get called out, logs will be posted. But leaving it all out in the open will just lead to harassment of, probably, the players that ahelp.
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