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I apologize for taking it harshly, I'm just sick of hearing candidates lament the things they think they wont be able to do instead of talking about the things they want to do or plan to do.

The candidates who will say what they would like to do and the direction they'd like to take the server in all espouse similar notions of making things more relaxed, more fun, more hands off. The odds are pretty good that whoever actually wins this mess will be partnered up with two other people who have similar positive attitudes about that.

You'll have authority over admins in that you'll change the rules they enforce, set the rules-of-engagement, set the pace. I have to constantly reiterate that you wont be able to walk into the room and start tossing admins out the airlock because there are people trying to run on the "kill everyone" platform.

mfw kor probably wont win despite being the only non-joke candidate

miggles wrote:mfw kor probably wont win despite being the only non-joke candidate

How is Niknak, sticky, or even myself considered a joke candidate?

How are you considered a joke candidate as well?

Did you really just say Niknak isn't a joke candidate

because niknak is underage

sticky is a limey

miggles is a fucking retard

you i dont know about you seem cool

danno wrote:Did you really just say Niknak isn't a joke candidate

Well lets consider the others then and leave Nik out

Danno you are also a serious candidate, correct?

well of course I am

danno wrote:well of course I am

miggles wrote:mfw kor probably wont win despite being the only non-joke candidate

I'm not a joke candidate silly.

Besides Pomf already got his legs broken, he isn't running this race any time soon.

tedward1337 wrote:

miggles wrote:mfw kor probably wont win despite being the only non-joke candidate

How is Niknak, sticky, or even myself considered a joke candidate?

How are you considered a joke candidate as well?

hahahahahhahahahahahHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

I have the most shitposting in my thread that means I'm winning right?

not if my entire thread is a shitpost
checkmate kortheists

*Koreans

Well if anone doesn't pass the host's choice vote to coderbus we might still get kor

Malkevin wrote:Well if anone doesn't pass the host's choice vote to coderbus we might still get kor

HG told me he was getting that spot again.

I don't think I should be appointed headmin either if I want such big changes to the server. Players have to want it.

I mean I'm sure I could do a fine job working as headmin in the current ruleset/atmosphere and not rocking the boat too much but I don't really like it enough to want to put in that much work.

tbh if the players dont want your changes then /tg/ is truly dead

Kor seems self-aware and able to take onboard feedback and criticism, if the recent comments on him being out-of-touch are anything to go by. Maybe that's what we need.

miggles wrote:tbh if the players dont want your changes then /tg/ is truly dead

A good time for you to finally leave then biggles

lol stfu oranges you huge sjw

Whats your opinion on AIs/Borgs being asimov?

Whats your opinion on AIs/Borgs interfering with legitimate executions?

Malkevin wrote:Whats your opinion on AIs/Borgs being asimov?

Whats your opinion on AIs/Borgs interfering with legitimate executions?

I think the AI having a flawed lawset like asimov has the potential to cause non antag conflict, which is a good thing. It's also the only thing that stops the AI from going full on antag hunter (though it mostly does that anyway). I think a 4th law governing lizards should be added by default instead of server rules dictating the AI behavior, doesn't feel right.

As to executions it obviously has to. How it interferes/why security is executing the guy/how it's appropriate for security to react are all dependent on context.

Killing a nuke op in the middle of the station going to shit and the sec borg decides it needs to arrest the captain/security force? Sure ion rifle it. Cultists teleporting out of jail and holy water no where to be seen, and the AI decides it needs to to stop you? Sure kill it.

Captain announcing the public execution of the clown for lubing all the halls, or an arrested traitor for having an emag or whatever? Probably not okay to murder the AI when it reacts by bolting security down.

I mean ideally security would be subtle about it and the IC incentive of having the AI on your side would be enough to stop stupid loud executions, but I know some jacksass would just beat prisoners to killbait borgs every round if there were zero restrictions on how you could react.

tl;dr if the execution is under duress/and or necessary and you don't have another way of dealing with the borgs (the upload/RD console are not reachable, the AI keeps unlocking the borgs to attack you, whatever) they're fair game, but security shouldn't be baiting the AI in the first place if avoidable. You shouldn't be obligated to let the borgs permabrig you but you shouldn't be kill baiting either.

Kind of late into this but here are my plans for policy changes.

1. I will come up with some dumb idea
2. I will make a forum thread articulating the idea, what problems I think it addresses, and what problems I think it may cause.
2a. I will request said thread be largely unmoderated. If you want to call me a fucking retard that's cool, I just will probably not carefully consider such feedback
2b. I'll reserve posts 2/3 for pasting whatever HG and Sticky want said near the top if they went to participate
3. After everyone is done yelling at eachother I'll take the proposed change to adminbus (assuming it was at all well recieved) for the headmins to vote on
4. I'll update the OP with the results, and who voted which way and why

Basically I will try to let players have a voice in the decision making before stuff happens, not after

HELP: KorPhaeron/(Kor Phaeron) (?) (PP) (VV) (SM) (JMP) (TP) : spawn me as the changeling to kill jerome (?) thanks
Admin PM to-KorPhaeron/(Kor Phaeron): No, this isnt the proper use of adminhelp.
Admin PM to-KorPhaeron/(Kor Phaeron): Also, no.
Reply PM from-KorPhaeron/(Kor Phaeron): You're the first one getting deadminned when I'm headmin
Reply PM from-KorPhaeron/(Kor Phaeron): Wait I mean third, Cheri and Tsar first

I know who I'm voting for!

Well atleast I'm not first.

Tsaricide wrote:Well atleast I'm not first.

No you are. Cheri made me a corgi so he's in third place now.

You, then Ahammer, than Cheri

Looks like your little plot is out. What do you have to say for yourself?

Well nobody else is running their campaign on deadminning me so you have a clear advantage now.

Cheridan wrote:Looks like your little plot is out. What do you have to say for yourself?

Laugh all you want, your elitist cabal's days are numbered.


In all seriousness though Cheri was poking fun at me in admin PM earlier in the round and chasing me around with a possessed banhammer, the "make me changeling pls" was directed at him. I regularly adminhelp dumb shit to Cheri and threaten to ban him, it's clear Ahammer didn't think I was joking though so sorry about that.

I wasn't going to vote for you but with you in power we could do a 2/3 power move to dunk tsaricide

Although I think literally any other player candidate would be up for that deal too.

Make sure no one finds out though we need to do this quick enough that mso doesn't notice. I don't think he checks the forum often so we should be fine.

Stickymayhem wrote:I wasn't going to vote for you but with you in power we could do a 2/3 power move to dunk tsaricide

Although I think literally any other player candidate would be up for that deal too.

Make sure no one finds out though we need to do this quick enough that mso doesn't notice. I don't think he checks the forum often so we should be fine.

I was going to plot with HG to get rid of you and make Tsar the third head admin though

Kor wrote:

Stickymayhem wrote:I wasn't going to vote for you but with you in power we could do a 2/3 power move to dunk tsaricide

Although I think literally any other player candidate would be up for that deal too.

Make sure no one finds out though we need to do this quick enough that mso doesn't notice. I don't think he checks the forum often so we should be fine.

I was going to plot with HG to get rid of you and make Tsar the third head admin though

Hg finds me adorable. But then so does everyone.

Tedward is cuter than you I'm voting for him. Without confirmation of your kawaiiness your campaign is doomed.

Stickymayhem wrote:

Kor wrote:

Stickymayhem wrote:I wasn't going to vote for you but with you in power we could do a 2/3 power move to dunk tsaricide

Although I think literally any other player candidate would be up for that deal too.

Make sure no one finds out though we need to do this quick enough that mso doesn't notice. I don't think he checks the forum often so we should be fine.

I was going to plot with HG to get rid of you and make Tsar the third head admin though

Hg finds me adorable. But then so does everyone.

Tedward is cuter than you I'm voting for him. Without confirmation of your kawaiiness your campaign is doomed.

iirc kor is cuter than ted
no homo

Friendly reminder that anyone who is on the .txt has their vote thrown out during the player vote.

Kor wrote:

Cheridan wrote:Looks like your little plot is out. What do you have to say for yourself?

Laugh all you want, your elitist cabal's days are numbered.


In all seriousness though Cheri was poking fun at me in admin PM earlier in the round and chasing me around with a possessed banhammer, the "make me changeling pls" was directed at him. I regularly adminhelp dumb shit to Cheri and threaten to ban him, it's clear Ahammer didn't think I was joking though so sorry about that.

Fair enough, sorry for passive aggressively posting in your thread. Any complaints I had are hereby withdrawn.

danno wrote:Greytide or rainbowtide?

Asking the right questions.

Kor wrote:Greytide worldwide

And getting the right answers.


I'm honestly probably going to vote for you just because I remember you (and remember you were a cool guy/admin). Hopefully your policy works on the collective of spergs that is the /tg/station community.

Also please say you'll make petkillers valid again, fuck Iankillers.

Balut wrote:

danno wrote:Greytide or rainbowtide?

Asking the right questions.

Kor wrote:Greytide worldwide

And getting the right answers.


I'm honestly probably going to vote for you just because I remember you (and remember you were a cool guy/admin). Hopefully your policy works on the collective of spergs that is the /tg/station community.

Also please say you'll make petkillers valid again, fuck Iankillers.

They will absolutely be valid. The only reason to kill pets is to piss off other players, the admins shouldn't be shielding griefers from player response.

It'd make more sense to ban the behavior than to ban people for reacting to it (not that I think banning something like that is a good idea)

I'm voting for you.

sawrge man I warned you I'm sending rae the logs of you bullying russel

I've had a growing sense of unease about this as it drew closer. Several people have urged me to drop out for my own sanity and they're probably right. It might go well but dealing with irc drama for half a year if it doesn't just doesn't sound appealing. I dont have faith in myself to finish the term the more I think about it. I also feel very at odds with the current community the more I play. I think I'd just end up upsetting myself and other people. There are other areas of my life I should put this energy. Better I quit now than burn out halfway through

Sorry to anyone who had faith in me. I'm sure some of you saw this coming anyway

That's a shame, but I definitely understand.

You must do what is best for you, and yeah we probably passed the point of no return years ago.

And so he suffers the fate of all would-have-been-good politicians.

Damnit.

well fuck

Kor wrote:I've had a growing sense of unease about this as it drew closer. Several people have urged me to drop out for my own sanity and they're probably right. It might go well but dealing with irc drama for half a year if it doesn't just doesn't sound appealing. I dont have faith in myself to finish the term the more I think about it. I also feel very at odds with the current community the more I play. I think I'd just end up upsetting myself and other people. There are other areas of my life I should put this energy. Better I quit now than burn out halfway through

Sorry to anyone who had faith in me. I'm sure some of you saw this coming anyway

Damn it kor, the vote has already started, You already have votes.

Its toolate man, you're on mr bone's wild ride fiveeva

Just kidding, I'll remove you and all of your votes so people who voted for you can revote.