/tg/Station 13

I am ANIMETIDDIES/Pepper Mint. I have been playing /tg/station13 since 2017. A lot has changed since then, and the community's numbers have grown significantly. As a 2-time /tg/ Toolbox Tournament Champion. (2017 and 2019), I qualify as a highly skilled and dangerous Gamer.





1. Take steps toward allowing LRP and MRP servers to act more independently of each other, with the end goal of potentially having a 4th, MRP exclusive headmin election at the end of the coming term. 2. Create escalation regulations for headroles to curb specific department heads from valid hunting.
3. You will play in the Event Hall.
4. I want to reintroduce self deleting threads to the Player’s Club.

Links to my answers to the various debate threads are here.

"Candidate Scrubby Checkpoint" "March 2023 Headmin Self-Insert Fanfic Workshop - the thread"

Have you any prior experience as an admin (or similar role) on server? What differences might exist between those experiences if so?

Since I feel the first agenda is really two in one, so tackling the first half, how exactly do you anticipate separating the two servers further than mere server tribalism. You mention similarities but is the intent here for total separation in admins, codebase and rules? How do you foresee doing this as a headmin or how would you facilitate this and with who?

Second part, why do you think breaking the triumvirate would functionally allow for better management? The benefit of the triumvirate currently is that any given inter-headmin decision will inevitably have a majority vote. How do you anticipate resolving deadlocks? wouldn't this ultimately undermine the effectiveness of the team?

Your second agenda is already policy to some degree. Departmental defense is something heads of staff can enact, but in situations outside of this, heads of staff are not necessarily empowered with imbalanced escalation restrictions.

The third: I mean, if someone wanted to do something on Event Hallthat warrants a whole server dedicated to it, I think they are entirely able to approach MSO to organize that currently.

The fourth: So basically, you want to return the Hut without calling it the Hut?

TIDDIIIIES. Er, um, anyway, I have some questions:

- Who would vote for the 4th headmin? Manuel players? Manuel admins? Both? How is that determined?
- How would you liason introducing self-deletion to the player's club? Particularly, with Rave, although I imagine other GMs or maybe MSO have opinions on it.

Other stuff on your thread I was curious have already been responded somewhere else or it's not something of interest to me atm. Thank you

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am Have you any prior experience as an admin (or similar role) on server? What differences might exist between those experiences if so?

I stopped doing any active jannie for online stuff when I was like 14. Since then, I've become a first responder and picked up a lot of skills related to socialization, crisis management, and alloting responsibility. The major differences between that and being an admin on SS13 is that nobody is literally dying.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am Since I feel the first agenda is really two in one, so tackling the first half, how exactly do you anticipate separating the two servers further than mere server tribalism. You mention similarities but is the intent here for total separation in admins, codebase and rules?

The general opinions I've seen levied around this concept seemed to be based on a misunderstanding of intensity. No, I don't think totally separating LRP/MRP in it's totality is a good idea. Everything would continue business as usual with the addition a larger scope for config changes on the MRP servers and (eventually) the election of a headmin(s) with the responsibility of maintaining MRP config, policy/rulings, and testmerges. Admins and players that play primarily play/take tickets on Manuel would be highly encouraged to seek out the MRP headmin position rather than the roles that cover Bagil/Sybil/Terry. The intent here is simple - every election cycle the server triablism comes out in full swing with each one pushing a headmin seat for their server's individual candidate. With the addition of MRP head administration, everyone is guaranteed to get someone that won't outright neglect one server type from another or impose changes that are misguided or unwarranted. I draw the line at LRP/MRP specifically because I think there are fundamental differences in philosophy of what SS13 is or why it's enjoyable. Sybil/Terry/Bagil tend to be on a similar wavelength.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am How do you foresee doing this as a headmin or how would you facilitate this and with who?

The entire concept would require coordination from the entire headmin team. As for this coming term, I would only want to start making tweaks to MRP servers config to start priming and setting basic prescedent for what exactly the new role would be responsible for. I'd like to run player polls on Manuel to gauge popularity of certain toggleable features (ie nonhuman headroles, warops, security slot scaling) to implement what seems best for a more story-driven environment. When the following election comes around, the newly elected MRP headmin would be given free reign to take their two servers in whatever direction they see best. Everything is fair game, these are not my decisions to make. This way the two servers can take off in diverging directions without having to compete for headmin slots or step on eachother toes.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am Second part, why do you think breaking the triumvirate would functionally allow for better management? The benefit of the triumvirate currently is that any given inter-headmin decision will inevitably have a majority vote. How do you anticipate resolving deadlocks? wouldn't this ultimately undermine the effectiveness of the team?

As I mentioned in the OP I'm intentionally leaving the specifics vague to allow any other headmins/admins to give their input. There's a number of possible layouts to try here. Ultimately I think most impasse situations could be resolved through the indirect input of the LRP headmins. Remember - all the headmins would be part of the same team, just given different responsibilities and voting privileges. There is a lot to be gained from communicating and listening to eachother between servers.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am Your second agenda is already policy to some degree. Departmental defense is something heads of staff can enact, but in situations outside of this, heads of staff are not necessarily empowered with imbalanced escalation restrictions.

Most clarifying policy on this matter is MRP only (MRP rule 3 and 4). I want to bring the principle to "do your job" to head roles on all servers. The intention here is to encourage heads of staff to man the fort and not abandon their job's duties.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am The third: I mean, if someone wanted to do something on Event Hallthat warrants a whole server dedicated to it, I think they are entirely able to approach MSO to organize that currently.

And yet it barely happens. I will lead by example.

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:44 am The fourth: So basically, you want to return the Hut without calling it the Hut?

The OG Hut had much laxer rules and a much shorter deletion period. I want to keep the existing Club rules with the addition of self-cleaning threads. Three months is a long time.

conrad wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:33 pm - Who would vote for the 4th headmin? Manuel players? Manuel admins? Both? How is that determined?

As mentioned above - it depends on the collectively agreed upon configuration of the new team. Manuel admins would get first pickings to vote on an MRP headmin slot.

conrad wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:33 pm - How would you liason introducing self-deletion to the player's club? Particularly, with Rave, although I imagine other GMs or maybe MSO have opinions on it.

I will be headmin and Rave will not be.

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Pepper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:51 am
1. Take steps toward allowing LRP and MRP servers to act more independently of each other, with the end goal of potentially having a 4th, MRP exclusive headmin election at the end of the coming term.

Does this mean there would be one LRP headmin and one MRP headmin, or would you just be giving MRP players double representation at the expense of LRP players?

ekaterina wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:42 am Does this mean there would be one LRP headmin and one MRP headmin, or would you just be giving MRP players double representation at the expense of LRP players?

In practice this 4th role would have a much more limited scope of what they can actually change - stuff that exclusively affects MRP only. Inversely the regular headmin team would have less input on what actually gets changed on Manuel. At this point I'm honestly considering calling it something like "Mannyger" because I am envisioning something like a mini-headmin anyways.

Could a Manuel player or admin run for the regular headmin position? Yeah, but it would be kind of redundant because they would have limited power to change the servers they actually play on.