/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:36 pm**

Bottom post of the previous page:

Tsaricide wrote:I'll fit an entire term of work into the <1month I have.

Oh come on dude, It'll be for naught if you pass the reins to 'Stifles-the-Forums' and 'Ruins-the-Chemisty'
Much less 'Runs-the-Elections" who is considering applying.

Seriously, one of you have to run, or I swear I'm voting for saegrimr, because I'd rather watch the collapse of civilization sooner rather then later.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:39 pm**

I just noticed there are people who are actually endorsing me for some strange reason.
I have no intention to run for headmin unless it really does end up being only two people, and I don't intend to touch policy unless its to clarify existing practice or act as a tiebreaker.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:34 pm**

Can we start banning people who make joke headmin application threads? Just forum ban them until the elections are over.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:45 pm**

Are we going to have headmin debates?

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:11 pm**

Any future mentions of ascii penis going foward will be met with forum bans and your ineligibility to run

This message has been brought to you by the singulo.io transparency and wellness department.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:51 pm**

Fuck guys, this isn't supposed to happen yet. Two months too early.

I'm still getting settled into my new place, and I haven't played the game in ages because I'm working through my vidya backlog.

I can throw in my hat if you guys really want, but since I'll probably be as useful as HG for the first few months that's probably not a good idea.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:55 pm**

It was pushed up due to 2/3 of the headmins having to resign.

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:58 pm**

Sounds familiar

Posted: **Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:41 pm**

i know endorsements are dumb but i would fully support HBL for headmin

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:55 am**

Endorsements are no longer needed. Poorly implemented idea was poor. Sorry.

EDIT: I'm also not running, glad that the threat of me being a candidate motivated folk to run.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:59 pm**

QuartzCrystal wrote:WEDNESDAY IS THE DEADLINE TO MAKE YOUR CANDIDATE THREAD. ENDORSEMENTS ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:36 am**

QuartzCrystal wrote:
THERE WILL BE A TRIUMVIRATE, ONE HEADMIN WILL BE DECIDED BY THE PLAYERS, ONE HEADMIN WILL BE DECIDED BY THE ADMINS, AND THEN ONE WILDCARD ADMIN THAT MSO HASN'T FULLY DECIDED HOW WILL BE CHOSEN (yet).

NikNakFlak wrote:I dont want to be voted on for players, I only wanted to be in the admin election but apparently that's not a thing anymore.

Wait what? Is there a closed election for admins or not?
Because I was under the impression there wasn't, and so was niknak apparently.

and there shouldn't be, This allows unpopular people to ride the coat-tails of the admin circle jerk (Hyperbole, just an easy term) and wind up in charge.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:49 am**

Falamazeer wrote:Wait what? Is there a closed election for admins or not?

There isn't. One group of candidates, separate group votes from players and admins.

Falamazeer wrote:and there shouldn't be, This allows unpopular people to ride the coat-tails of the admin circle jerk (Hyperbole, just an easy term) and wind up in charge.

A single pool of candidates doesn't stop that. Hypothetical SuperBadmin9000 could just enter the pool for running on knowledge he wouldn't get a single vote from the players but snap up every vote from the admins.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:56 am**

that's why this is dumb. it should be vote for vote, no separation, first and second place get headminship.
Mark my words, the admin vote and headmin vote will show a marked seperation in results.

but I get it now, if you enter for one you enter for both. that's what niknak meant, He figures he'll do well in one but not the other, I just got confused.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:47 pm**

make me admin

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:28 pm**

Falamazeer wrote:Mark my words, the admin vote and headmin vote will show a marked seperation in results.

Yeah, because admins vote first for their headmin, as it was requested by the players.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:22 pm**

QuartzCrystal wrote: as it was requested by the players.

I don't think most players would have requested an even 50/50 headmin position split.
Unless you mean https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3747
this poll here, the poll where the largest bracket is definitively two player votes one admin vote.

Which is entirely different obviously, two thirds of the positions being player choice was what people wanted, now it's one to one, with the third spot just sitting mysterious unclarified.

if you re-ran the poll to decide what people wanted with the new information in mind that only two positions are to be defined you'd get a different answer.

Edit: but it's your election, do what you will, but a potato is a potato, asking a question and using the answer for a different question doesn't exactly give you a "as the people requested" card to play.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:38 pm**

Saying that the players should have more votes because they voted for themselves to is a fundamental misunderstanding of why we're using democracy here.

The game requires players to function. The game requires admins to function. The game requires coders to function. If a large enough number of the people who fill any one of those positions decides to ragequit the community, then the server will die. So, in order to minimize the chance of a mass ragequitting, each of them should have a significant say in overall direction the game goes, in order to make it less likely that a chance that they seriously hate will get implemented. Coderbus doesn't exactly have their shit together well enough to pick their own representative right now, but giving that leverage to a headmin chosen to represent player interests would be defeating the purpose entirely.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:54 pm**

Falamazeer wrote:
QuartzCrystal wrote: as it was requested by the players.
I don't think most players would have requested an even 50/50 headmin position split.
Unless you mean https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3747
this poll here, the poll where the largest bracket is definitively two player votes one admin vote.

Which is entirely different obviously, two thirds of the positions being player choice was what people wanted, now it's one to one, with the third spot just sitting mysterious unclarified.

if you re-ran the poll to decide what people wanted with the new information in mind that only two positions are to be defined you'd get a different answer.

Edit: but it's your election, do what you will, but a potato is a potato, asking a question and using the answer for a different question doesn't exactly give you a "as the people requested" card to play.

I was talking about people wanting the admin vote to happen first. That poll was useless as there are three votes, one admin, one player and one host. It's up to MSO how he'll decide what to do with his vote, if anything.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:51 pm**

Deadline has come and gone. Stay tuned for the results of the admin vote, then when we'll be having the player vote.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:37 pm**

ausops wins admin vote. becomes hated by the community when he takes the mantle of needed evil. goes the way of jesusmod.
malkevin wins player vote. shouts at coderbus. removes a bunch of rules. continually goes on about the "old days". is cucked by horny "this is my code" granny and gets upset.
goofball wins 2nd player vote. immediately breaks chemistry trying to revert it. other people fix the mess and he quits in shame.

predictions made.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:41 pm**

I would be interested to know where the host vote is going.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:52 pm**

I imagine it'll be announced last to not affect the votes.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:05 pm**

Makes sense.

if I had to speculate I would guess that either the vote will go to coderbus or to the runner up in the player vote.

Posted: **Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:44 pm**

MSO is most likely going to choose someone himself or leave it up to the admin and player vote choices.

EDIT: MSO has chosen Jordie to be the host pick. The admin vote results will likely be announced later today.

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:58 pm**

I don't really care but why was Jordie picked for a headmin role when he did not even put up a candidate listing? Just seems a bit out of left field when someone who, seemingly, expressed no desire to be a headadmin is suddenly made one.

Posted: **Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:10 pm**

Steelpoint wrote:I don't really care but why was Jordie picked for a headmin role when he did not even put up a candidate listing? Just seems a bit out of left field when someone who, seemingly, expressed no desire to be a headadmin is suddenly made one.

Host vote was not subject to needing to be chosen from the candidate list. MSO can explain his reasoning (just as Jordie can explain his reasoning for accepting it).

Perhaps next election we can request that MSO choose from the same list too? I don't think he would necessarily be opposed.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:06 pm**

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:11 pm**

Congratulations to Ausops, long may he reign.

When do we take bets on who wins the player vote?

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:56 pm**

Steelpoint wrote:I don't really care but why was Jordie picked for a headmin role when he did not even put up a candidate listing? Just seems a bit out of left field when someone who, seemingly, expressed no desire to be a headadmin is suddenly made one.

The matter was largely resolved outside of and before the candidate stuff started at which point it would've be silly to participate in an election one was already ineligible for.

Posted: **Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:34 pm**

Malkevin has dropped out.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:29 am**

I'm still interested in competing, but with all the stupid rude admins trying to take the player votes with their EXPERIENCE and DEDICATION I doubt I'll win.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:17 am**

Ask to be trialminned. Get your foot in the door.
All of you, seriously. Its worth it.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:58 pm**

I'll run the player vote this afternoon when i get home from work.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:43 am**

Oi Quartz you chucklefuck, I was not too late, bring my thread back you rude dude >:v

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:30 am**

ShadowDimentio wrote:Oi Quartz you chucklefuck, I was not too late, bring my thread back you rude dude >:v

The deadline was last Wednesday you dip

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:03 am**

I know. I applies the day before, he just removed it because he had an aneurysm or something.

I'm certain I applied in time.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:21 am**

quartz said deadline was wednesday, he never said if it was at the start of the day or the end though so I guess he meant when it started and you made your thread halfway through the day.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:25 am**

B-but THAT'S NOT FAAAIR!! ;(

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:53 am**

Poll set up, will start at the top of this hour (5am GMT) and end 72 hours thereafter.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:32 pm**

For some reason whenever i click to view new posts in this thread it jumps me up to Seagramir's comment about how people wanted him to run but he is not going to. Is it a bug or what?

Posted: **Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:30 pm**

There is now a run off vote happening between lollerderby and NikNakFlak who tied for the number of votes in the first round of voting.

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:32 am**

Jordie, Ausops, and either NikNak or lollerderby?
I'm liking the looks of this.

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:15 am**

Lets go NikNak!

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:04 am**

I locked all the candidate threads except for loller and niky's, cause like, ask them questions or something.

I dunno, democracy. I miss when you guys were more nuts about this, now I see that Stalin was right.

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:02 am**

When is the run-off vote scheduled to end?

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:07 pm**

QuartzCrystal wrote: I miss when you guys were more nuts about this, now I see that Stalin was right.

Can't say for everyone else, but I lost interest when anyone of merit stopped trying, And then two of the people I felt least responsible with the little authority they already had were handed the other positions without actual player input, for reasons I've already bitched loudly about.

And now the election we do have is the metaphorical turd sandwich or shit taco, I didn't even vote (Feel free to check and call me out) And the runoff vote I also don't intend to weigh in on, Because My hands are too full of the fucks I'm giving to bother clicking a button.

Dunno what a good solution is, but maybe you ought to investigate why people that had support decided not to run in the first place and solve that, rather than lamenting the fact that interest dried up.

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:27 pm**

Falamazeer wrote:Dunno what a good solution is, but maybe you ought to investigate why people that had support decided not to run in the first place and solve that, rather than lamenting the fact that interest dried up.

IMO I think it's apparent that being a headmin isn't actually fun as most of them quit.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:41 am**

Round One PreClean:
Lollerderby 42
NikNakFlak 38
iamgoofball 21
Skorvold 18
Jalleo 6
Tornadium 6
David273 3
Callanrockslol 2
I have no strong feelings, one way or the other. 30

Round One PostClean:
Lollerderby 31
NikNakFlak 31
iamgoofball 16
Skorvold 15
Jalleo 6
David273 3
Tornadium 3
Callanrockslol 1
I have no strong feelings, one way or the other. 20

Round Two PreClean:
Lollerderby 73
NikNakFlak 56
I have no strong feelings, one way or the other. 26

Round Two PostClean:
Lollerderby 58
NikNakFlak 49
I have no strong feelings, one way or the other. 16

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:01 am**

Congratulations to the new headmins, and a big thank you to everyone who took the time to run/vote/post or otherwise comment.

Posted: **Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:17 am**

I was the only one that voted for you Callan.

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