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Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:49 am #257094

listen you know the drill

i got 3rd/2nd/3rd place the last 3 elections

integrate code with the server more, better testmerging setups

free beer

ask away i guess

will come with a salt PR

also, like last election, if I win, anyone who voted for me and can prove it post election will recieve 1 goofcode token
use this to make me make 1 pr of your choice to the github and testmerge it
revert goofchem if you want even

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby danno » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:51 am #257095

fuck it why not
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby kevinz000 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:56 am #257101

Reasons I dislike this candidate:
1. Bribing people with coding tokens, and not actually attracting them with good reasons.
2. Integrating code with the server more is not an argument when you're so unreceptive to feedback and make shitty meme salt PRs in meme-filled reactions to other PRs because you don't like them. Yes, I mean your PR that adds all of the baystation races, while that might not inherently be bad (Although many will say it is) it's bad when you make it as a meme reaction and scream slippery slope.
3. Free beer is seriously not a good reason.
4. "Coming with a salt PR" isn't either
5. You tend to make salty/rant forum threads and PRs over things that you either don't understand or blow out of proportion. I'm talking about "Lets remove feature <x> because someone got banned a single time by it" without even knowing the full context, and the thing you made when vcordie got appearencebanned for ignoring an admin ruling about not naming themselves Luke Gadow but just proceeded to skirt the line on purpose.
Really, take it more seriously, how are you going to handle having 1/3 of the power over everything for 4 months if you're just going to make salty meme threads and PRs over this stuff?
You get into PR opening wars with maintainers on github, you tell people to fuck off when they give you feedback (Hey I deserve it as I do get hostile towards you but other people don't.).

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby danno » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:56 am #257102

hahaha fuck dude you had a prepared statement
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby kevinz000 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:57 am #257104

danno wrote:hahaha fuck dude you had a prepared statement

not really I don't type up essays on tg forums sorry man, just did that over the last minute or so.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby danno » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:03 am #257107

I have a message from an anonymous poster named "PaulyTs"
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Qbopper » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:06 am #257111

danno wrote:hahaha fuck dude you had a prepared statement


haha you have an opinion about someone? nerd

On a serious note not a fan of goof specifically because, as he has gone on record saying in the past, he doesn't play, and I don't want someone who doesn't play the game whatsoever deciding policy

EDIT: forgot to mention the "token" shit you mention is reason enough alone to not vote for you, that's laughably poor form
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Saegrimr » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:08 am #257112

My favorite is the "passive"-aggressive removal PRs to try and prove a point that didn't exist. Twice.

Now imagine that in headmin form, lmao.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby kevinz000 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:08 am #257113

Qbopper wrote:
danno wrote:hahaha fuck dude you had a prepared statement


haha you have an opinion about someone? nerd

On a serious note not a fan of goof specifically because, as he has gone on record saying in the past, he doesn't play, and I don't want someone who doesn't play the game whatsoever deciding policy

On that note:
Whenever he plays, he plays a "gimmick captain" with a shitty name and a shitty gimmick that derails the round quite fast. Basically, taking a meme, putting it into IC form, and running it to the fucking ground.
I'm talking about naming himself some rediculous huge anime-ish but doesn't even belong in anime and screaming that he's "doing the anime weeb stuff properly" just like the other players who do it, meme announcements, etc etc, to the point where security confined him to his office and then he started lasering people when a lynch mob showed up.
Naming himself "White Girl" or whatever he was doing, and making meme announcements.
He has not shown to me that he takes his game seriously at all, and is only in it "for the memes".

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby danno » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:17 am #257124

Follow up question from PaulertTs, golfball.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:14 am #257277

out enjoying the arts, will reply in a few hours

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby ChangelingRain » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:22 am #257281

How do you think you'd cope if the two other members of the headmin team decided to block something you wanted to do?
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby PKPenguin321 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:28 am #257287

Note that last time his code tokens were promised for all voters even if he lost, and not one token ever went through. He has no obligation to hold up his code tokens promise this time, and I am already certain he wont.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:41 am #257300

Nobody actually sent in requests either

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby danno » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:42 am #257303

Sounds like a very convenient excuse, golfball. Still waiting on your reply to previous questions.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:13 am #257327

believe me I'd reply but my data cap is soon and I'm at a play

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby PKPenguin321 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:15 am #257330

Last time goof got third on strictly false promises, please don't let that happen again.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:28 am #257349

I would of followed through if I won. I recall stating multiple times that the tokens were revoked if I didn't win. If it wasn't made clear enough I apologise.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Haevacht » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:30 am #257351

iamgoofball wrote:I would of followed through if I won. I recall stating multiple times that the tokens were revoked if I didn't win. If it wasn't made clear enough I apologise.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:43 pm #257609

danno wrote:Sounds like a very convenient excuse, golfball. Still waiting on your reply to previous questions.

my official reply:

tell him to send his resume in he's my new vice president ever since oxford went full racist

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:44 pm #257610

ChangelingRain wrote:How do you think you'd cope if the two other members of the headmin team decided to block something you wanted to do?

I'd probably find some way around it, because as of right now there's no one to actually police the headmins. They'd be stupid to block it, anyways.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:47 pm #257612

kevinz000 wrote:Whenever he plays, he plays a "gimmick captain" with a shitty name and a shitty gimmick that derails the round quite fast. Basically, taking a meme, putting it into IC form, and running it to the fucking ground.
I'm talking about naming himself some rediculous huge anime-ish but doesn't even belong in anime and screaming that he's "doing the anime weeb stuff properly" just like the other players who do it, meme announcements, etc etc, to the point where security confined him to his office and then he started lasering people when a lynch mob showed up.
Naming himself "White Girl" or whatever he was doing, and making meme announcements.
He has not shown to me that he takes his game seriously at all, and is only in it "for the memes".


You're saying I'm:
1. Making a character for roleplaying
2. Roleplaying as that character to the end
3. Actually trying to roleplay in SS13 and letting players enjoy getting their valids on with me?

I don't know about you, but all 3 of those sound okay to me.

Are we only allowed to roleplay a stereotypical normal Japanese-American who is here just to collect greentext/deny greentext and leave? Or are you complaining that I don't roleplay properly because I don't just idle in the bar for 30 minutes spamming excessively long me emotes? I could do that for you if you'd like.

Play some D&D sometime. It'll teach you how to properly roleplay.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:51 pm #257614

Qbopper wrote:
danno wrote:hahaha fuck dude you had a prepared statement


haha you have an opinion about someone? nerd

On a serious note not a fan of goof specifically because, as he has gone on record saying in the past, he doesn't play, and I don't want someone who doesn't play the game whatsoever deciding policy

EDIT: forgot to mention the "token" shit you mention is reason enough alone to not vote for you, that's laughably poor form

Here's the deal about not playing all day every day.

Do you know how boring the game gets and how tedious and annoying it is to play the game for 8 straight hours?

I play every once in awhile because I have a life, have stuff to do, and also don't want to become one of those angry motherfuckers who screeches every time they die.

I've found that the players that don't play constantly every single day after they get home from preschool don't angrily type up ban requests in policy discussion.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:57 pm #257616

kevinz000 wrote:Reasons I dislike this candidate:
1. Bribing people with coding tokens, and not actually attracting them with good reasons.
2. Integrating code with the server more is not an argument when you're so unreceptive to feedback and make shitty meme salt PRs in meme-filled reactions to other PRs because you don't like them. Yes, I mean your PR that adds all of the baystation races, while that might not inherently be bad (Although many will say it is) it's bad when you make it as a meme reaction and scream slippery slope.
3. Free beer is seriously not a good reason.
4. "Coming with a salt PR" isn't either
5. You tend to make salty/rant forum threads and PRs over things that you either don't understand or blow out of proportion. I'm talking about "Lets remove feature <x> because someone got banned a single time by it" without even knowing the full context, and the thing you made when vcordie got appearencebanned for ignoring an admin ruling about not naming themselves Luke Gadow but just proceeded to skirt the line on purpose.
Really, take it more seriously, how are you going to handle having 1/3 of the power over everything for 4 months if you're just going to make salty meme threads and PRs over this stuff?
You get into PR opening wars with maintainers on github, you tell people to fuck off when they give you feedback (Hey I deserve it as I do get hostile towards you but other people don't.).

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3. Are you trying to imply that sticking to my guns and not being a complete pushover is a bad thing as someone with authority?

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby captain sawrge » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:03 pm #257621

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Qbopper » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:26 pm #257637

iamgoofball wrote:3. Are you trying to imply that sticking to my guns and not being a complete pushover is a bad thing as someone with authority?


He's implying that you stick to your guns no matter what anyone says, ever, and refuse to budge even a little bit or consider other viewpoints, not "you didn't listen to me once so fuck you", and I would agree
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Wyzack » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:28 pm #257641

Not gonna lie, having three headmins and requiring a majority vote to put things through is a pretty important check on headmin power and hearing you outright say you are going to sidestep it to get your way is pretty telling
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby TheColdTurtle » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:29 pm #257643

How do we know you won't sperg put when someone disagrees with you as headmin? And how do we know you won't abuse your power to remove a shit ton of stuff and ban players you don't like?
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby ChangelingRain » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:34 pm #257648

iamgoofball wrote:
ChangelingRain wrote:How do you think you'd cope if the two other members of the headmin team decided to block something you wanted to do?

I'd probably find some way around it, because as of right now there's no one to actually police the headmins. They'd be stupid to block it, anyways.


I said, "How do you think you'd cope", not "How would you find a way around the other headmins denying you".

So, how would you cope if the other headmins denied you and you couldn't get around it?
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Wyzack » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:35 pm #257649

We don't call it an iamgoofball (tm) brand shit fit for no reason
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby captain sawrge » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:55 pm #257658

I will be voting for goof, and if you win I would like you to please code a mini-putting course (possibly in the holodeck) and golf clubs and golf balls
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:11 pm #257712

Wyzack wrote:Not gonna lie, having three headmins and requiring a majority vote to put things through is a pretty important check on headmin power and hearing you outright say you are going to sidestep it to get your way is pretty telling

let's be fair here, headmins are arranged like this:
1. The AFK headmin. Doesn't do much. There's always one of these.
2. The non-combative headmin. He's there, he admins, doesn't really do any policy stuff unless he has to.
3. The headmin that does stuff and takes stances. Usually ends up deciding policy for this term.

It's always been like that.

captain sawrge wrote:I will be voting for goof, and if you win I would like you to please code a mini-putting course (possibly in the holodeck) and golf clubs and golf balls

That's a great idea, I love it.

ChangelingRain wrote:I said, "How do you think you'd cope", not "How would you find a way around the other headmins denying you".

So, how would you cope if the other headmins denied you and you couldn't get around it?

In that case, I guess I'd have to concede defeat or propose an alternative/compromise.

TheColdTurtle wrote:How do we know you won't sperg put when someone disagrees with you as headmin? And how do we know you won't abuse your power to remove a shit ton of stuff and ban players you don't like?

Why don't headmins do this already?
Qbopper wrote:He's implying that you stick to your guns no matter what anyone says, ever, and refuse to budge even a little bit or consider other viewpoints, not "you didn't listen to me once so fuck you", and I would agree

I do accept feedback and viewpoints. I just ignore people who can't articulate themselves like normal human beings.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby captain sawrge » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:13 pm #257715

I never bothered reading your threads in the past to be honest, what would you like to accomplish as a head admin?
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby John_Oxford » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:24 pm #257726

iamgoofball wrote:
danno wrote:Sounds like a very convenient excuse, golfball. Still waiting on your reply to previous questions.

my official reply:

tell him to send his resume in he's my new vice president ever since oxford went full racist


"going full racist" implies i wasn't already racist

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Arianya » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:26 am #258214

Irregardless of the disagreements we've had regarding git stuff before, I don't think there's a solid reason to vote for you when you have a history of reactionary decisions, excessive anger at being opposed and a history of disregarding player poll opinion when it suits you but demagogue-style calling people out who oppose you when the poll numbers are in your favour.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Sometinyprick » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:48 pm #258363

iamgoofball wrote:
Wyzack wrote:Not gonna lie, having three headmins and requiring a majority vote to put things through is a pretty important check on headmin power and hearing you outright say you are going to sidestep it to get your way is pretty telling

let's be fair here, headmins are arranged like this:
1. The AFK headmin. Doesn't do much. There's always one of these.
2. The non-combative headmin. He's there, he admins, doesn't really do any policy stuff unless he has to.
3. The headmin that does stuff and takes stances. Usually ends up deciding policy for this term.

It's always been like that.


I've been number 3 and I'm almost certain you won't get a number two, the admins will almost certainly vote in someone who will fight you every step of the way, realistically you are going to have to compromise on a lot of things, are you even willing to do that?
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:30 pm #258373

Sometinyprick wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:
Wyzack wrote:Not gonna lie, having three headmins and requiring a majority vote to put things through is a pretty important check on headmin power and hearing you outright say you are going to sidestep it to get your way is pretty telling

let's be fair here, headmins are arranged like this:
1. The AFK headmin. Doesn't do much. There's always one of these.
2. The non-combative headmin. He's there, he admins, doesn't really do any policy stuff unless he has to.
3. The headmin that does stuff and takes stances. Usually ends up deciding policy for this term.

It's always been like that.


I've been number 3 and I'm almost certain you won't get a number two, the admins will almost certainly vote in someone who will fight you every step of the way, realistically you are going to have to compromise on a lot of things, are you even willing to do that?

If the admins want to throw such a hissy fit that I got elected that they'll vote in someone just to fuck me over, then that's their prerogative and I'll fight them on every step of their way.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:33 pm #258375

Arianya wrote:Irregardless of the disagreements we've had regarding git stuff before, I don't think there's a solid reason to vote for you when you have a history of reactionary decisions, excessive anger at being opposed and a history of disregarding player poll opinion when it suits you but demagogue-style calling people out who oppose you when the poll numbers are in your favour.

This sounds pretty familiar to a certain elected official.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Wyzack » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:56 pm #258398

Admins pick their choice before the player vote so no one would be elected specifically to fight you, I don't think most admins think you have a real shot at winning. I think STP's point is that whoever the admins vote will very likely have a much different opinion on things than you and will come into disagreement as a matter of course.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:03 pm #258399

Wyzack wrote:Admins pick their choice before the player vote so no one would be elected specifically to fight you, I don't think most admins think you have a real shot at winning. I think STP's point is that whoever the admins vote will very likely have a much different opinion on things than you and will come into disagreement as a matter of course.

You also forget that I'll be needed to okay their shit too, so we have to suck eachother off to survive.

Also, why was host pick done before the elections were over?

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Jordie0608 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:18 pm #258404

To pre-empt counterpicking.
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Postby iamgoofball » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:35 pm #258415

Makes sense.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby Qbopper » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:44 pm #258492

iamgoofball wrote:
Arianya wrote:Irregardless of the disagreements we've had regarding git stuff before, I don't think there's a solid reason to vote for you when you have a history of reactionary decisions, excessive anger at being opposed and a history of disregarding player poll opinion when it suits you but demagogue-style calling people out who oppose you when the poll numbers are in your favour.

This sounds pretty familiar to a certain elected official.


I'm not sure I follow here

how does that disprove their point or say that it's alright to act that way
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:05 am #258555

Qbopper wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:
Arianya wrote:Irregardless of the disagreements we've had regarding git stuff before, I don't think there's a solid reason to vote for you when you have a history of reactionary decisions, excessive anger at being opposed and a history of disregarding player poll opinion when it suits you but demagogue-style calling people out who oppose you when the poll numbers are in your favour.

This sounds pretty familiar to a certain elected official.


I'm not sure I follow here

how does that disprove their point or say that it's alright to act that way

It's not exactly awesome but it won Trump the election, and we've got a large amount of Trump supporters here. Would probably work here.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby InsaneHyena » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:11 am #258558

I've already decided that you're my candidate, but still, what will you do about the lizard problem?
Bring back papercult.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:12 am #258559

We're going to work as a team and take a very hard look at the status of alien races and SS13.

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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby InsaneHyena » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:12 am #258561

I would love it if you said something definitive.
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Re: Iamgoofball - time for round 4

Postby iamgoofball » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:30 am #258595

I'm still formulating how to deal with the land mines.

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