Is the Captain above space law?

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Is the Captain above space law?

Post by iamgoofball » #623931

We had a shift where the Captain killed a dude by icebox HoP line trapdoor dunking him down to the icemoon wastes FNR, resulting in him getting decapitated somehow and ending up in medbay as a head. When we attempted to apprehend the captain for this, he proceeded to purge the AI and hide out on the AI sat, until revs occured and we all died. The Captain justified it as his station, his rules. It was all for naught because Nuke Ops won the Revolution with a nuke.

Is the Captain above Space Law?
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Re: Is the Captain above space law?

Post by wesoda25 » #623932

I think you’re wrong to fixate on space law since afaik we are very clear that it has no administrative backing. There might be some exceptions to this, not sure, but I definitely don’t think it’s smart to endorse it with any rulings. A more appropriate question would probably just be “is this acceptable captain play.”
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Post by Donpedrito » #623985

Yeah, the answer to "is X above space law?" is yes 100% of the time, at least administratively. That does kind of sound like the captain broke the rules about 5 different ways though so space law isn't really relevant.
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Post by Armhulen » #624016

oocly yes

icly... maybe? i could see it changing between rounds depending on how hos would enforce it
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Post by Sylphet » #624040

Not really for policy since space law is an IC restriction, not OOC. That said, no, they're not above space law - at least as much as security are willing to enforce that.
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Post by iwishforducks » #624056

The way I see it is that security officers are officers of the station, not NanoTrasen- no matter how patriotic they might be. Because central command doesn't enforce space law, then that must mean space law is station side only. If space law is only applied in the station, and security officers serve the station, then the owner of the station must be either the law or above the law. So in that case the Captain, who "owns" and is responsible for the station, should be able to mend or entirely ignore space law for themselves.
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Post by Misdoubtful » #624071

Above Space Law IC: Nah (If you actually believe in space law)

Above Space Law OOC: Yah

Above Server Rules: Nah
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Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #624082

The captain like the HOS is in a weird place of "He's basically above space law IC as long as he doesnt piss his security team off by being too much of a shit that they apply it to him", but as other posters have said it doesnt actually matter at all whether he is.
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we checked the code and uhh
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Post by Flatulent » #626400

iamgoofball wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:40 pm we checked the code and uhh
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Post by oranges » #626428

iamgoofball wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:40 pm we checked the code and uhh
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code doesn't trump server policy
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Post by Itseasytosee2me » #626435

Flatulent wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:32 pm
iamgoofball wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:40 pm we checked the code and uhh
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I too, believe, that we should base tg policy on dumb crap coders put into the codebase and a fanfiction book about jurisdiction on a corporate station that was allegedly written by redditors
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Re: Is the Captain above space law?

Post by Tearling » #626464

iamgoofball wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:40 pm we checked the code and uhh
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Who is "we"?
Do you have a team of coders on stand-by to try and find snippets of code for your argument? Is this some kind of secret goofball coder cabal conspiracy?
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Re: Is the Captain above space law?

Post by GamerAndYeahMick » #626470

let the players decide during the rounds, I think the captain can be a bit of a powertripper but I wouldn't care if someone punished him for it, karma and whatnot also I think its interesting if pulled off right, also I should add by being a powertripper I don't mean I am approving someone being a griefer there is nuance to what I say
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Re: Is the Captain above space law?

Post by tattle » #626740

Space Law is an RP suggestion and doesn't factor into server rules; the captain can be arrested by security if they have a valid reason.

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