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Re: Ban requests

Postby CPTANT » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:48 am #309908

danno wrote:making admins deal with petty retards for your own amusement is not reasoning that is going to convince any sane person to bring back that stupid shit


Isn't this all admins ever do?
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Re: Ban requests

Postby Qbopper » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:42 pm #309970

CPTANT wrote:
danno wrote:making admins deal with petty retards for your own amusement is not reasoning that is going to convince any sane person to bring back that stupid shit


Isn't this all admins ever do?


yeah, but when we connect to the server as admins we know that's what we signed up to do and we're prepared for that

ban requests is "hey, deal with threads where people intentionally lie and omit facts, hold grudges, and you have to logdive and continue to post in the thread until its resolved 30 years later"

at least that's the impression I get
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Re: Ban requests

Postby Lazengann » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:51 pm #310045

Weren't there a ton of admins who didn't even bother with ban requests when it was a thing

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Re: Ban requests

Postby oranges » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:23 pm #310074

Shaps-cloud wrote:People who actually enjoy watching people they don't know argue about whether someone should be banned and expect to be catered to are probably the dumbest people in the community

Feeding off internet drama for entertainment is somewhere between watching twitch streams all day for surrogate friendship and being glued to TMZ to stalk your favorite celebs

That would make you a subhuman slime feeder then, since you're attempting to start drama in a policy thread.

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Re: Ban requests

Postby Oldman Robustin » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:45 am #310207

As we acquire more TECHNOLOGY the arguments against ban requests become flimsier and more fictitious every month.

A modest amount of work automating some of the request process and common sense is all that forum needs to provide a much needed tool for adjudicating our policy.

Without requests you get stuff like the last security thread. I honestly can't blame admins for enforcing rules against sec players a kid glove treatment since nobody can "request" a ban you've denied but they can appeal and unleash a torrent of shit.

But this creates a bias where admins will stick to warnings or notes on the more difficult areas of policy because as long as you drop the hammer for clean cut cases and never take firm action anywhere else you can pretty much avoid ever having to do any work on the forums. I don't really mind the incentives for admins to be conservative with their banning, but I do mind the utter lack of guidance when this forum remains useless on difficult questions.

Just flesh out the ticket system and institute some sane rules for resolving requests and in the long run even the most skeptical admins will be on board.
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