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Nonhostile Admin-Spawned Entity Validity

Post by AnonymousNow » #340849

It came up just now that a Centcom official spawned by an admin was dogpiled and killed by the crew. I was under the impression that this was specifically against the rules, but aside from remembering it being a serverjoin alert, it's not in the rules proper unless I've missed it somewhere. Francinum doubted the idea of this being an issue, so I figured I'd ask here.

As far as I'm aware, admin-spawned non-hostile entities like Centcom officials, ERTs, pirate traders etc. were absolutely not acceptable murder targets for loyal crew. Is this or is this not the case?
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Post by Arianya » #340851

I believe its not been added to rules as its effectively a clarification of rule 1, under the point of "don't try to kill something just because you technically can"

But yes it was definitely a round-join alert and AFAIK nothings changed with regards to it being punishable if you immediately jump to trying to murder non-hostile event entities.
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Post by Qbopper » #340858

this is policy but didn't actually make it onto the rules page yet (iirc) for whatever reason

I remember being super glad when pkp made this a thing, I'm 100% sure it's in effect
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Post by BeeSting12 » #340866

I believe this would go under rule 1 but people are autistic and need a clause for every situation so apparently not
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #340869

I did indeed make this a bannable thing and it's still in effect as far as I know. The notification about the new rule actually mentioned centcomm officials specifically as an example of this.
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Post by Cobby » #340901

PKPenguin321 wrote:I did indeed make this a bannable thing and it's still in effect as far as I know. The notification about the new rule actually mentioned centcomm officials specifically as an example of this.
but you never put it in a visible place for players which is how this thread has arised.
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Post by BeeSting12 » #340907

more players probably read the MOTD than the rules

edit: yeah still needs to go in the rules before someone tries rule lawyering their way out of a ban
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Post by NoH8OnlyLove » #340910

Maybe make a wiki link to the rules pop up in when you first log in or something
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #341065

ExcessiveJMadison wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:I did indeed make this a bannable thing and it's still in effect as far as I know. The notification about the new rule actually mentioned centcomm officials specifically as an example of this.
but you never put it in a visible place for players which is how this thread has arised.
It was in the MotD for the good part of my headmin term
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Post by Atlanta-Ned » #341066

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to set up a protected policies page on the wiki for these sorts of things. Just so there's no confusion.
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Post by Qbopper » #341068

PKPenguin321 wrote:
ExcessiveJMadison wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:I did indeed make this a bannable thing and it's still in effect as far as I know. The notification about the new rule actually mentioned centcomm officials specifically as an example of this.
but you never put it in a visible place for players which is how this thread has arised.
It was in the MotD for the good part of my headmin term
except now it isn't and it's not referenced anywhere

like atlanta said, we need some kind of page to put these policies in, because right now someone could do something bannable and not know it was bannable
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Post by onleavedontatme » #341070

It is the both the duty and the right of every true /tg/ player to kill DMPCs on sight, it's our heritage
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Post by Qbopper » #341072

Kor wrote:It is the both the duty and the right of every true /tg/ player to kill DMPCs on sight, it's our heritage
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Post by feem » #341075

Kor, is this a new headmin ruling directly contravening a prior headmin ruling, or is it shitposting, i can't tell
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