Bans on discord must be appealed on the forums.

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Bans on discord must be appealed on the forums.

Post by FrozenGuy5 » #380850

a recent incident occured that a person in the discord got banned for posting nsfw stuff in a public channel and it was directed towards me. he got banned by admin #1. the next day, the person who got banned appealed to a different admin, admin #2. admin #2 claimed his appeal was convincing and unbanned him. also this so called person is going to be banned now as i complained to a headmin but that's beside the point.
bans shouldn't be appealed via pms, even if they should be. they should be appealed to the original banner or a headmin but this is a quickdraw way of doing it so...

bans on discord must be appealed on the forums!!!!
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Post by BeeSting12 » #380869

I agree discord bans should be appealed on the forums.
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Post by CitrusGender » #380890

Yeah, I don't have a problem with this. The incident only really happened because a few bans were lifted on goofball and other people by non-headmins so I just thought it was something similar to that in that he was just banned hastily for something during the night where the server had like 60 people in discord voice.

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From what it stands, Arm just said you have to appeal to him directly? I don't have a problem with appealing on the forums but there is legit no formalized process for discord bans/unbans as of now.
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Post by Armhulen » #380891

I'm just gonna repost from admin chatter that i don't like having the people argue that they have free speech and get to antagonize other people because the rules say they technically can't NOT antagonize other people durr

our game revolves around conflict does our discord have to revolve around three people starting conflict
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Post by SpaceInaba » #380892

I dont understand your post arm are you talking about the discord rules or the in game rules
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Post by Archie700 » #380897

SpaceInaba wrote:I dont understand your post arm are you talking about the discord rules or the in game rules
Discord.
I mean if people were given free reign on free speech on discord it would devolve into a shouting match.
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Post by iamgoofball » #380899

In my case the bans placed on me were shit like "hacking into the admin voice" by tsar, obvious meme bans.
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Post by Armhulen » #380901

iamgoofball wrote:In my case the bans placed on me were shit like "hacking into the admin voice" by tsar, obvious meme bans.
in this case how would pming me be worse than making a thread for people to debate about the validity of that
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Post by BeeSting12 » #380907

I'd like to see people give reasons for their bans as well. Most bans are stuff like "bye" or blank.

It doesn't have to be complicated just "Porn links in non NSFW channel" or "Ping abuse".
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Post by SpaceInaba » #380908

we should probably place a ban on meme bans if we're gonna appeal them on the forums
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Post by iamgoofball » #380912

Armhulen wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:In my case the bans placed on me were shit like "hacking into the admin voice" by tsar, obvious meme bans.
in this case how would pming me be worse than making a thread for people to debate about the validity of that
Just wanted to clarify before people spiralled off into complaining about my banned status
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Post by Qbopper » #380940

Armhulen wrote:I'm just gonna repost from admin chatter that i don't like having the people argue that they have free speech and get to antagonize other people because the rules say they technically can't NOT antagonize other people durr

our game revolves around conflict does our discord have to revolve around three people starting conflict
Just make it clear somewhere that discord is not in game

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Post by SpaceInaba » #380954

sadly you have to qbopper considering how many smoothbrains there are on discord
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Post by Rustledjimm » #381042

This is how I wanted discord bans to be dealt with in the first place. So it has my support.
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Post by Dax Dupont » #381381

Apply this to IRC too
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/mode +b *@*.*
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Post by Qbopper » #381517

Dax Dupont wrote:Apply this to IRC too
legitimate question:

has anyone been banned from irc in the past year
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Post by kevinz000 » #381520

Qbopper wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:Apply this to IRC too
legitimate question:

has anyone been banned from irc in the past year
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Post by Dax Dupont » #381526

Qbopper wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:Apply this to IRC too
legitimate question:

has anyone been banned from irc in the past year
Not many but the point is you might as well have a single subforum for all discord and irc things. Might add forum moderator issues too.
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Post by iamgoofball » #381529

kevinz000 wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:Apply this to IRC too
legitimate question:

has anyone been banned from irc in the past year
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Post by Qbopper » #381552

Dax Dupont wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:Apply this to IRC too
legitimate question:

has anyone been banned from irc in the past year
Not many but the point is you might as well have a single subforum for all discord and irc things. Might add forum moderator issues too.
no yeah you're right I was just curious
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Post by Rustledjimm » #381670

I don't think the bans will come in so often that it requires a separate subform. It's rare that the ban appeals forum is amassing appeals that I'm sure it can accomodate these too.
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Post by Qbopper » #381677

Rustledjimm wrote:I don't think the bans will come in so often that it requires a separate subform. It's rare that the ban appeals forum is amassing appeals that I'm sure it can accomodate these too.
I dunno I think having a misc subforum for everything that isn't the game would be reasonable but it doesn't matter
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Post by Rustledjimm » #381728

I wouldn't be adverse if such a thing if it was felt needed. I just wonder if we'll really deal with it often enough that it is going to be required.
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Post by BeeSting12 » #381860

We dont need a separate forum for this. Just make the standard procedure for bans from discord, IRC, etc be to appeal on the forums
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Post by Slignerd » #382001

iamgoofball wrote:In my case the bans placed on me were shit like "hacking into the admin voice" by tsar, obvious meme bans.
And in my case, as I'm sure you've already heard, I had a ban placed on me over personal disagreements on another discord.

If you want to force users to go through a formal process of appealing a ban on the forums, there should be proper standards on placing the bans in the first place.
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Post by D&B » #382013

Slignerd wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:In my case the bans placed on me were shit like "hacking into the admin voice" by tsar, obvious meme bans.
And in my case, as I'm sure you've already heard, I had a ban placed on me over personal disagreements on another discord.

If you want to force users to go through a formal process of appealing a ban on the forums, there should be proper standards on placing the bans in the first place.

Enabling and letting a witch hunt be born from a misunderstanding and then letting the people that created said witch hunt get off scot free when you act as the leader of a proxy groupchat linked to the main website is not a personal disagreement you stupid vapid faux victim
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Post by iamgoofball » #382042

He posted creepy and illegal in some countries and states porn. Stop trying to defend your friend, just throw him under the bus like a sane person.
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Post by Slignerd » #382061

D&B wrote:Enabling and letting a witch hunt be born from a misunderstanding and then letting the people that created said witch hunt get off scot free when you act as the leader of a proxy groupchat linked to the main website is not a personal disagreement you stupid vapid faux victim
People posting about your buddy when they post lolicon/shotacon content is inevitable, and you shouldn't get to ban another discord's host from the official cord simply because they happened to have only warned a guy for talking to other people about it instead of banning him on the spot as you'd have liked.

Especially not after they expose your hypocrisy by pointing out that the witch hunt took place on the platform that you're an admin at, that you're the one with power to ban the guy who launched the witch hunt in the first place. Why exactly would the first course of action be demanding that some other guy gets banned on another discord instead, for telling the witch hunting guy about things? Then ban said other discord's host when they refuse?

It's funny you're the one to talk about "enabling and letting a witch hunt be born", considering you're one of the major participants of the unending, continuous witch hunt against me.
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Post by Armhulen » #382071

I made a very angry and large post about sligneris faking feeling bad about their actions so people would stop getting mad at them but i talked with them on discord about it so this policy thread is saved

i still am not really for moving it over to the forums but no other headmins have stuck their head in this beehive so
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Post by Armhulen » #382143

other headmins don't wanna get their hands dirty with this thread and I don't wanna change it so
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