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We don't negotiate with terrorists

Post by Reece » #396855

Just a gimmick I'm thinking of doing; as a tator-tot implanting myself with a bomb/leaving a bomb rigged to a health sensor and then using it as leverage.

However I am concern, security is likely gonna laugh and kill me, now as a tatortot I'm cool with blowing a dirty great hole in the station, but if Redshirt McTaser kills me after I tell him I'm packing a health sensor bomb combo, would he be liable for the deaths as well?

If so I'd rather find out here than get some redshirt banned, I'm not asking for scenario by scenario breakdown but a more general yay or nay, or even 'Likely in most cases' or 'Unlinkely in most cases'
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Post by Nilons » #396859

I would probably not believe you. If you made security liable it would mean they have to believe anyone who said they were hooked up to a bomb or risk getting banned.
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Post by BeeSting12 » #396867

Sec cant be blamed for not believing someone threatening them with a bomb
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Re: We don't negotiate with terrorists

Post by Reece » #396869

See that was my gut instinct, but I'd rather double check.
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Post by Atlanta-Ned » #396871

You could try ahelping and asking for assistance from the admins with your gimmick as well.
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Post by Reece » #396872

Fair shout actually.
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Post by Shaps-cloud » #396873

If you show off the fact that you have a bomb security would probably be much more willing to believe you have a bomb
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Post by Wyzack » #396875

Counterpoint: I am willing to bet every sec team will have at least one guy who would measure being able to get a valid kill to be of greater worth than not putting a hole in the station so if your bomb is elsewhere in the station you better have one on your person too. Not to mention they could just nonlethally detain you if they have the time. It is a cool and classic villain idea but I don't know if it will survive the playerbase
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Post by Dr_bee » #396953

I would run the gimmick anyway, any sec officer who is bloodthirsty enough for valids that they are willing to risk bombing the station needs to take a forced break from security for awhile.
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Post by Nilons » #397046

Dr_bee wrote:I would run the gimmick anyway, any sec officer who is bloodthirsty enough for valids that they are willing to risk bombing the station needs to take a forced break from security for awhile.
>tell security I have a bomb in my bag linked to a voice command
>if they don't bow down and give me everything I want they need to take a force break from security

the point is that theres no way of really verifying that they have the bomb set up
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Post by Bluespace » #397055

You could just show them the bomb in your backpack.
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Post by Arianya » #397476

You can't even fit bombs in backpacks anymore.
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Post by imblyings » #397483

Given the performance of egyptian special forces on that plane that one time where they killed more hostages than the terrorists ever did, I want to say a security officer causing a bomb to go off killing dozens is in fact true RP if not RP of a really stupid officer in any case.

This server's specialty imo is players dealing with unique emergent IC consequences, admin oversight over situations where players are gonna be tensed up and filled with adrenaline is probably a bad idea too.
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Post by Grazyn » #397526

Yeah Russians nerve-gassed a whole theater full of hostages to kill the terrorists, and caused the death of a couple hundred children at Beslan when they stormed that school so it's kinda realistic for sec to not care about collateral damage as long as the valids are killed
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Post by imblyings » #397533

literally this

besides cloning exists in lore, and most likely large cloning data banks too
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Post by Bombadil » #397638

imblyings wrote:literally this

besides cloning exists in lore, and most likely large cloning data banks too
But unless your brain is scanned directly or you have a health implant from autoscanner your mind is permanently lost
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Post by Dr_bee » #397683

Bombadil wrote:
imblyings wrote:literally this

besides cloning exists in lore, and most likely large cloning data banks too
But unless your brain is scanned directly or you have a health implant from autoscanner your mind is permanently lost
I always assumed that lorewise Nanotrasen had clone template backups of all the crew, as it explains why we dont remember previous rounds.
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Post by Stickymayhem » #397688

If you have a bomb, you can manage five. Plant three around the brig, use one to demonstrate your capability and have the last as the deadman's trigger if you really want to pull this off
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Post by cedarbridge » #397743

It turns out that the loss of life is a poor cost to threaten in a setting where life is cheap and death is usually temporary.
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Post by Lumbermancer » #397810

I'm trying to be more flexible with my alignment because being Lawful all the time is not so fun, ever since Oldman (?) wanted to do a gimmick nuke ops with me, and I literally said I don't negotiate with terrorists.

I can tell you I tried similar thing. I packed my backpack with C4 and rigged voice activation, then I arranged face to face meeting with the Captain. I think he played along, but I remember exploding afterwards and killing myself and the Captain, at least until he got cloned minute later.
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Post by Cobby » #398605

cedarbridge wrote:It turns out that the loss of life is a poor cost to threaten in a setting where life is cheap and death is usually temporary.
Replace "i will bomb the station" with "I will bomb all the syndicate, therefor denying you the blood which you so thirst for".

"I will bomb ian" will probably make people get really defensive too.
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #401950

Cobby wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:It turns out that the loss of life is a poor cost to threaten in a setting where life is cheap and death is usually temporary.
Replace "i will bomb the station" with "I will bomb all the syndicate, therefor denying you the blood which you so thirst for".

"I will bomb ian" will probably make people get really defensive too.
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Re: We don't negotiate with terrorists

Post by Luke Cox » #401959

Somehow hide the bombs in the brig, and you might actually get me to play along
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