The naming policy IS DUMB

[ohnopigeons]

I used to play Ayl Mao and it was brought up in a thread once over its terribleness. Outside of that, nothing ever came of it, either in game or OOC.
I've since moved on to equally terrible if not worse names.

Just live and let live. Existing policy (first name last name phonetically sound) is fine.

[The Clowns Pocket]

I just want to know if I can name my clown "Head of Security"

[Grazyn]

Clowns and mimes are exempted from naming policy

[SpaceInaba]

false

[imblyings]

The entire problem of this policy was enumerated, it's not enforced by the majority of the admin team because (speaking personally) it's a horrible policy and I won't ruin peoples rounds just because they have a funky name. (Excluding those who name themselves hitler or stalin, like come on it's been done, although there’s' RP potential to play someone unfortunately named Hitler).

Only admins I ever see enforcing this are the "/tg/'s RP needs to be higher group" who are bananas god rest their souls

The headadmin team seem to realise this but don't appear to care, or only plan to double down which seems insane to me.

Why would the man who says that headmins shouldn't step into policy that is enforced inconsistently say that?

You've literarly said before that headmins shouldn't step into policy because they will inevitably make inconsistently enforced policy.

The point you should have taken away from that discussion is that policy will never be consistently enforced because admins are only human, that is why it's very important to have a robust appeals process (which we do) and that trying to overly heavily handedly prescribe policy (like say the naming policy) will only cause trouble.

[Deitus]

Is Biggus Dickus an ok name? I have a very good friend in Rome nnamed Biggus Dickus.

[SpaceInaba]

if you're a clown or you roleplay as a roman legionnaire I'd personally let it fly

[The Clowns Pocket]

Clowns and mimes are exempted from naming policy

Realtalk I think that's going too far. I don't know what the line should be, but we shoulden't be allowing clown names like "Killall Jews" or "Hitler Didnothingwrong" or "Tranny Dicks"

"Bigus Dickus" should be fine though since they should have a much lax policy and that is a funny name

[Lazengann]

The policy should be whether most admins think it's too dumb to stay

[EvilJackCarver]

The policy should be whether most admins think it's too dumb to stay

If that's the case, Norville is right out (like, zoinks, Scoob).

[Floiven]

The policy should be whether most admins think it's too dumb to stay

This, just write as something like: Names are decided on a case-by-case basis, if the admins that are currently around to make the decision decide that your name is too dumb / doesn't pass the entertaining enough / named in bad faith check, welp too bad, please change it. Just add a note to the player along with their name so that if they've been asked to change it already, if the issue comes up again the online admins at the time can see that it was decided to be allowed or changed, and defer to that judgement. If you feel that it wasn't fair that you got certain bias from the people that were on at the time to make the decision, hey maybe don't toe the line so hard that you need someone to judge your name in the first place, if you wanna stand out with a special name that goes against normal naming conventions, gotta take the exposure that gives you.

[Dax Dupont]

The policy should be whether most admins think it's too dumb to stay

This, just write as something like: Names are decided on a case-by-case basis, if the admins that are currently around to make the decision decide that your name is too dumb / doesn't pass the entertaining enough / named in bad faith check, welp too bad, please change it. Just add a note to the player along with their name so that if they've been asked to change it already, if the issue comes up again the online admins at the time can see that it was decided to be allowed or changed, and defer to that judgement. If you feel that it wasn't fair that you got certain bias from the people that were on at the time to make the decision, hey maybe don't toe the line so hard that you need someone to judge your name in the first place, if you wanna stand out with a special name that goes against normal naming conventions, gotta take the exposure that gives you.

That's pretty much already the case.

Excessively OOC names fall under rule 3. Make a minimum effort to have your name fit in a setting involving a wacky space station in the future. A firstname lastname minimum is required and no honorifics are allowed. Nicknames in the middle are ok. Admins may get involved if your name is dumb and can approve or disallow names at their discretion while ingame.

However here we are.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

"nyanaroni" is hot fucking garbage and not even remotely a name, while I could see shitty parents with the last name Cake calling their daughter "Cup Cake" pretty easily.

I play as Max Imumfuhk tho so

[The Clowns Pocket]

"nyanaroni" is hot fucking garbage and not even remotely a name, while I could see shitty parents with the last name Cake calling their daughter "Cup Cake" pretty easily.

I play as Max Imumfuhk tho so

But see its a RACE name! Much like how a clown can be called "Honkiedoodles" or a ligger can be named "Poons-Dat-Poon"!

Edit: What next, can I not name my chef Hawt Dawg?

[cedarbridge]

Anyone unironically posting in this thread thinking "if your name even looks like or sounds like food you're getting banned :^)" is retarded and needs to stop posting in bad faith.

[Grazyn]

Anyone unironically posting in this thread thinking "if your name even looks like or sounds like food you're getting banned :^)" is retarded and needs to stop posting in bad faith.

So is Brad Wurst allowed? What's your ruling?

[cedarbridge]

Anyone unironically posting in this thread thinking "if your name even looks like or sounds like food you're getting banned :^)" is retarded and needs to stop posting in bad faith.

So is Brad Wurst allowed? What's your ruling?

Sure, why wouldn't it be?

[EvilJackCarver]

BRB, naming my character Geladene Kartoffel.*

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Shitposting aside, where in the sand is the line drawn between "'Cup Cake', that name's fine, I can dig that" and "'Nyanaroni An'Cheese'? Time for an ID-ban"? While I personally despise the latter, it honestly seems like something a twenty-something catgirl mum would name a kid whose surname is going to be 'AnCheese'.

*(German: 'Loaded potato")

[captain sawrge]

My favourite part of all of these threads is the eighteen pages of bikeshedding over what a bunch of randoms consider a good name.

[Lazengann]

t. Reginald Spessmen

[Saegrimr]

Putting Space in your name automatically absolves you of punishment. Should have been Nyanaroni An'Spacecheese

[SpaceInaba]

Putting Space in your name automatically absolves you of punishment. Should have been Nyanaroni An'Spacecheese

hahahahaAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

[The Clowns Pocket]

Would the name "Fish Stinkvagina" be valid?

[SpaceInaba]

can we please just delete posts that are going IS X A GOOD NAME ADMONGS

[Grazyn]

can we please just delete posts that are going IS X A GOOD NAME ADMONGS

>clear naming policy is dumb and everything must be left to the whims of the admin currently online when you join
>can't even ask admins preemptively whether your name is kosher or not in the thread created precisely to discuss naming policy, you must wait until you're appearance banned in game

not talking about obvious bait names ofc

[SpaceInaba]

ask about it in game and stop clogging up policy with posts that don't contribute

[Grazyn]

all I get from this thread is that no one agrees on a common policy, some put Nyanaroni and Cup Cake on the same level, some advocate for zero tolerance, some allow anything as long as it's funny (to them), some say that nicknames are allowed, some say they are not and so on

It is only fair that people bring up specific examples to get at least a ruling about those since anything else is vague and fuzzy

[cedarbridge]

all I get from this thread is that no one agrees on a common policy, some put Nyanaroni and Cup Cake on the same level, some advocate for zero tolerance, some allow anything as long as it's funny (to them), some say that nicknames are allowed, some say they are not and so on

It is only fair that people bring up specific examples to get at least a ruling about those since anything else is vague and fuzzy

So what you're saying is that people need to rules lawyer LITERALLY every rule in the game (including "don't use stupid names that aren't actually names") and that these needs lead to endless bikeshedding. Color me surprised.

[The Clowns Pocket]

if every admin has a diferent interpretation of such a rule then it really needs to be looked at

Are we not going to allow silly names or are we going to just give a shrug so long as the names not an edgelord offensive-name (so no "Gorrilla Niggur" or "Adolf Hitler") or phonetically unviable (so no "slkgg gvbvbc")

[Nilons]

I don't think a name being dumb should be the criteria, Ive known people with some dumb fucking names. For example, Harold Balls is a real person

[ohnopigeons]

We're going in circles.

[cedarbridge]

I don't think a name being dumb should be the criteria, Ive known people with some dumb fucking names. For example, Harold Balls is a real person

Gay Bowser is technically somebody's name in America, but I'll still ban you for using it.

[Nilons]

I don't think a name being dumb should be the criteria, Ive known people with some dumb fucking names. For example, Harold Balls is a real person

Gay Bowser is technically somebody's name in America, but I'll still ban you for using it.

Why are the names in the US more silly than the crazy space station tho

[captain sawrge]

t. Reginald Spessmen

Yeah thats what I mean its a fucking stupid policy I've had that dumbass name for like six years and no one has said a word to me but something equally stupid isn't allowed because ??? so everyone just tries to brainstorm where the line is but there is no line it's just at the whim of the admin it's so incredibly inconsistent and stupid to even bother trying to enforce that it's pointless.

OOC names are covered by no OOC in IC. Why does it need to extend further beyond that? Every time we have this thread it's an endless cycle of "this is good and this is bad and these arbitrary standards are actually VERY EASY if you use common sense by reading my mind GOD its so SIMPLE"

[Grazyn]

all I get from this thread is that no one agrees on a common policy, some put Nyanaroni and Cup Cake on the same level, some advocate for zero tolerance, some allow anything as long as it's funny (to them), some say that nicknames are allowed, some say they are not and so on

It is only fair that people bring up specific examples to get at least a ruling about those since anything else is vague and fuzzy

So what you're saying is that people need to rules lawyer LITERALLY every rule in the game (including "don't use stupid names that aren't actually names") and that these needs lead to endless bikeshedding. Color me surprised.

Actually the opposite, I'd rather not have a clear cut name policy because common sense should prevail, but the amount of people who use shitty names to prove a point or argue in bad faith that Nyanaroni is the same as Cup Cake is skyrocketing.

Also, "bringing up specific examples doesn't contribute, ask admins in game" is a pointless thing to say, it could be applied to every single policy thread, examples aren't bikeshedding if there's no agreement on the policy

[Saegrimr]

or argue in bad faith that Nyanaroni is the same as Cup Cake is skyrocketing.

Welcome to subjectivity, dumbass. I'm not going to listen to lizards here telling me how good their fetish is either but they'll swear up and down it's fine.

[Grazyn]

I have no doubt whatsoever that those denouncing Cup Cake and using Nyanaroni as an argument don't care about naming policy and are just the usual anti-cat circlejerk

[Saegrimr]

Pinning things on a boogeyman doesn't stop your opinion from being any less subjective.

[Grazyn]

Pinning things on a boogeyman doesn't stop your opinion from being any less subjective.

Please tell me that you seriously believe that the guy who joined as NYANARONI AN' FUCKING CHEESE didn't do that just to prove a point, specifically against Cup Cake.

All I'm asking for is to outright ban this sort of people without giving them the soapbox they want to sparkle a useless and ultimately endless policy discussion

[Saegrimr]

How does that make Cup Cake less of a stupid name?

[The Clowns Pocket]

Can I name my character Fish Stinkvagina? No no! Its a RACE name! You see... She's a feminist from Planet Pink

[Grazyn]

How does that make Cup Cake less of a stupid name?

Have you ever interacted with cup cake in game? It's a whimsical "lolrandom" character which may be annoying but it's at least a honest attempt at playing the game and the name fits that character, just like other silly names that are allowed because they're either very old players like Spessmen or play an actual interesting character. Compare it to someone who chooses the shittiest name possible to bait a ban so that they can open a policy thread. This is a toxic behaviour that shouldn't be encouraged. My thoughts can be summarized by this post:

Why do people immediately jump to "YEAH WELL ILL PLAY A GUY NAMED BIG FUCKING IDIOT IF YOU DONT MAKE STRICTER POLICY" every time one of these threads happens

Instead here we are, humoring and validating those rabble-rousers and their baits

[Saegrimr]

Have you ever interacted with cup cake in game? It's a whimsical "lolrandom" character which may be annoying but it's at least a honest attempt at playing the game and the name fits that character

You bring up Nilons as if that's not exactly what Cup Cake is doing without the extra stipulation of they're doing it to prove a point. They use a blatantly trash name but you're trying to defend it with MUH RP AND MUH CHARACTER.
I can play BIG FAGGOT too and be the most helpful person on the station but that doesn't make the name any less stupid and come up with a retarded backstory about how my parents hated me so they named me BIG FAGGOT.
Let's take the strawman even further, what if I just randomly kill Cup Cake every round as a nonantag because my backstory a cupcake raped my family and killed my dog. Wait that doesn't fucking work because its in the rules.

You calling out "I bet it's just those anti-cat fags" is even more cringe inducing because it looks more like "I gotta white knight my fellow cat friends", so thanks for bringing in-game race politics into a thread about rules.

Also no, i've never interacted with them beyond seeing their name on the radio and thinking who the fuck let that slide. Nyanaroni is just as stupid.

Also brb putting some fat titties on my avatar to scream and protest against whatever abomination you have as yours.

It's all still subjective. Fucking idiot.

[Grazyn]

Wow me mentioning cats really pushed you over the edge. My fault, shouldn't have done that.

We actually had staple characters in the past like Big Fucking Baby and others with titles in their name who all wouldn't be allowed under SUPER STRICT POLICY. So yes, having a somewhat interesting character seems to matter. If you want to play a shitty name put minimum effort in it, something that Nyanaroni clearly didn't do.

[Saegrimr]

No you coming off as a smug prick that you exposed "the usual anti-cat circlejerk" like that's the only reason this is an issue is why I called you out. Pull your head out of your avatar's retarded western faux-anime titties and read.

Cup Cake is a shitty name.
Nyanaroni is a shitty name.
Big Fucking Baby is a shitty name.
Whatever of Nanotrasen is a pretty lame name, not the worst, but is specifically against the rules as written.

The fuck does your cat politics have to do with any of this?

[Grazyn]

Nyanaroni is clearly a jab at cats, what else would it be? Also Big Fucking Baby had been allowed for years, same with Ostrava, Allad, Phoneti and every kind of permutation of the shittiest lizard names ever. But suddenly everyone is up in arms over Cup Cake like it was the straw that broke the camel's back, surely it can't be just because they're a cat right?

[Saegrimr]

No its not because they're a cat you colossal retard.
Jesus christ I was running out of ways to sound angry to make this dumb rant look funnier to whoever came by it but you're actually kind of pissing me off with your stupidity.

[DemonFiren]

Grazyn, while ignorant, is probably deliberately feigning utter cluelessness in order to make you lose your shit, thus lose the argument, thus increase the chances of those cancerous names staying.

[Lazengann]

t. Reginald Spessmen

Yeah thats what I mean its a fucking stupid policy I've had that dumbass name for like six years and no one has said a word to me but something equally stupid isn't allowed because ??? so everyone just tries to brainstorm where the line is but there is no line it's just at the whim of the admin it's so incredibly inconsistent and stupid to even bother trying to enforce that it's pointless.

OOC names are covered by no OOC in IC. Why does it need to extend further beyond that? Every time we have this thread it's an endless cycle of "this is good and this is bad and these arbitrary standards are actually VERY EASY if you use common sense by reading my mind GOD its so SIMPLE"

these threads are just good fun

[Grazyn]

Grazyn, while ignorant, is probably deliberately feigning utter cluelessness in order to make you lose your shit, thus lose the argument, thus increase the chances of those cancerous names staying.

You chiming in on the side of fetish haters is the real funny thing