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Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:33 am
by Shezza
As of now the only ways of reporting such is forum pms, that are rather poorly handed, people don't see them and can't provide examples of their own harrasement.

In my opinion players should be allowed to post complaints related to admin conduct addendum from march, even if the issues are outside of the game.
It will allow everyone to voice their opinion on the matter, possibly provide examples of their own issues with an admin.


Addendum to admin conduct in spoilerquote
Spoiler:
Addendum: What is expected of admins

1. No Attacks/harassment towards players
2. No threats of banning specific players in public channels.
3. All posts by admins in FNR should be meaningful and contribute to the discussion.

1.
Admins should never make continued unwanted and annoying actions towards players for the purpose of personal malice or some type of prejudice. This includes statements that are outwardly hostile to specific players and/or may be a defamation of that player's character. Admins are in a position of power and should never use their position in power to strong arm players and talk badly about them while they have no form of recourse. Only severe and/or continuous cases will be considered to be a break of this expectation, but I want to outline that a continuous harassment of players after being told to stop will not be allowed and will be met with warnings and/or demerits depending on the severity.
2.
Any declaration and intention to ban someone for something related to a player's actions in-game or outside of space station 13 should not be done in public channels that can be seen by any party. For the purpose of this expectation, a public channel is any channel that can be seen by anyone on a server who is not an admin. For example, we would consider the #tg-station-general, all channels on the unofficial /tg/ discord, and OOC chat in both servers to be a public channel (this is not an exhaustive list though). This will be met with a warning or more corrective action depending on the severity of the incident.

Edit: Additionally, I see the need to state that this refers to specific players and not a group of players. To single out a player is not acceptable but to call out a group of people who are doing something is acceptable.
3.
I understand completely that this rule has a subjective aspect to it. However, I want to make it clear that each forum has a specific purpose and should be used for the specific purpose that it was intended. There are already outlines about only how only parties involved in bans should post in ban threads and the same with admin complaints (though the an0n3 amendment is in effect for ban appeals.) I want to make it clear that admin feedback should be used for specific feedback on that admins conduct INGAME and all activities related to their post as an admin in the community. However, an admin is allowed to post in there own thread to discuss criticism given to them granted that their response is meaningful and contributes to the discussion. Failure to follow these rules will put you on post approval.

Misc.
For the purposes of this list, admins are also considered to be players.

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:44 pm
by oranges
did you report me and get brushed off?

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:17 pm
by Grazyn
I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:56 pm
by D&B
Hi goof

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:04 pm
by Armhulen
na it shouldn't

but i've come around to opening up discord pms as long as there's an expectation for the admin to be able to deny helping out. discord isn't like irc, they don't open discord when they only want to be playing ss13.

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:53 pm
by Shadowflame909
Grazyn wrote:I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it


This. The shame and losses aren't worth it. If you find yourself hated by big shot buckaroo who will make your time in said community a nightmare. It's better to treat it like a lost GF situation. THE LESS TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THE FASTER THE PAIN WILL GO AWAY

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:16 pm
by iksyp
Shadowflame909 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it


This. The shame and losses aren't worth it. If you find yourself hated by big shot buckaroo who will make your time in said community a nightmare. It's better to treat it like a lost GF situation. THE LESS TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THE FASTER THE PAIN WILL GO AWAY

actually the strategy is to shitpost until they go away

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:43 pm
by DemonFiren
the obvious alternative is to spam alt accounts and make the admins rue the day they crossed you :^)

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:25 pm
by captain sawrge
Shadowflame909 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:I've learned the hard way that if you are hated by someone who holds power over your internet community, you're better off finding another community rather than try and fight it


This. The shame and losses aren't worth it. If you find yourself hated by big shot buckaroo who will make your time in said community a nightmare. It's better to treat it like a lost GF situation. THE LESS TIME YOU SPEND WITH THEM, THE FASTER THE PAIN WILL GO AWAY

lol

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:34 am
by Shadowflame909
Epic Punished Captain Sawrge. They lived through the tale of regrets, but AT WHAT COST! There innocence.....

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:58 am
by ohnopigeons
Someone drill a hole in my head

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:39 am
by Nilons
Did someone hurt your feelings wilchen

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:57 am
by NikNakFlak
DemonFiren wrote:the obvious alternative is to spam alt accounts and make the admins rue the day they crossed you :^)

this has never worked on all the people who have tried it, its's just too easy to hit a button on our end

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:54 am
by DemonFiren
you underestimate autism, nik

Re: Should FNR cover Admin harrasement and Ban threats outside the game.

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:28 pm
by Armhulen
okay we had fun but no FNR is staying in game only.