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Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:11 pm
by subject217
This change was reverted when the config merge happened. I'd like to see it back. I know that at the time, a vote was done on Greytide vs. Gaytide. Maybe we could run something like this again, or just fix it since it used to be this way anyway.

Edit: I've added a forum poll.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:11 pm
by Anonmare
Gaytide pride worldwide

Fuck shitsec cissecs

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:14 pm
by Nilons
rainbowtide was a mistake

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:16 pm
by BeeSting12
Greytide is better.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:53 pm
by EagleWiz
The rainbow makes it easier to tell different greyshirts apart, and probably reduces greyshirt solidarity.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:04 am
by Anuv
Gaytide, give sec something unique to call out on the radio.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:39 am
by Cobby
If we voted on it I don't see why we would revote on it just because the vote was not in favor of a certain option.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:36 am
by Grazyn
Cobby wrote:If we voted on it I don't see why we would revote on it just because the vote was not in favor of a certain option.

welcome to trickle-down democracy

EagleWiz wrote:The rainbow makes it easier to tell different greyshirts apart, and probably reduces greyshirt solidarity.

yes, this was the reason the change was made in the first place. At that time it was justified due to greytide being on the rise, I don't see the same situation now.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:39 am
by Rustledjimm
gaytide worldwide

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:52 am
by subject217
PostThis post was deleted by subject217 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:53 am.
Reason: i'm an idiot and repeating myself in my own thread

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:13 am
by Doritos
Space ain't free the tree of guns and valids gotta be littered with the blood of Syndies. This ROGUE sec aka "shitcurity" is not my security. they are lings and probably traitors as well : DD. GRAYTIDE not GAYTIDE ok. god bless.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:08 pm
by PKPenguin321
The chad greytide
- was here first; a modern classic
- subtle tone allows wearers to blend in
- not afraid to fuck you up and steal your dog

the virgin gaytide
- added in a fit of salt by the infamous paprka
- was the laughing stock of the server ever since it was added
- only liked ironically, will never feel real love

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:35 pm
by Dr_bee
Grazyn wrote:
EagleWiz wrote:The rainbow makes it easier to tell different greyshirts apart, and probably reduces greyshirt solidarity.

yes, this was the reason the change was made in the first place. At that time it was justified due to greytide being on the rise, I don't see the same situation now.


You and I must be playing very different games. Greytiding has only gone up since the config was turned off.

If you want to be a classic greyshirt, take the 2 seconds of effort it takes to use the 3 lockers filled with grey jumpsuits on every map. Rainbow assistants does wonders for sec and helps people identify assholes more easily.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:59 pm
by Lumbermancer
Dr_bee wrote:If you want to be a rainbow assistant, take the 2 seconds of effort it takes to use the 3 lockers filled with colorful jumpsuits on every map.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:57 pm
by Anonmare
The grey jumpsuit is too OP and needs a nerf

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:40 am
by oranges
GREYTIDE WINS AGAIN BOYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:38 am
by bandit
the correct answer is to make it rainbow for pride month and gray all other times

unfortunately we're a month late for that

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:14 am
by Dax Dupont
Grazyn wrote:
Cobby wrote:If we voted on it I don't see why we would revote on it just because the vote was not in favor of a certain option.

welcome to trickle-down democracy

EagleWiz wrote:The rainbow makes it easier to tell different greyshirts apart, and probably reduces greyshirt solidarity.

yes, this was the reason the change was made in the first place. At that time it was justified due to greytide being on the rise, I don't see the same situation now.

So you are saying it did its job?

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:35 am
by Grazyn
It was an emergency measure and it did its job, we don't have an emergency now.

You don't keep the sprinklers open all the time just because they stopped a fire once

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:56 am
by Lumbermancer
Grey Tide is just classic Space Station 13, it should never be removed as a default. Like red security, or singularity eng...oh...

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:34 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
Grazyn wrote:It was an emergency measure and it did its job, we don't have an emergency now.

You don't keep the sprinklers open all the time just because they stopped a fire once


You might as well say that coastal cities should dismantle their levees every time flooding stops

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:53 am
by Grazyn
Assistants with rainbow suits are blasphemy against everything sacred and it should stay an emergency measure, also its effect is greatly reduced if it becomes a permanent thing because assistants learn to organize despite the difference in colour.

Used sparingly is much more effective at disrupting the tide

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:04 pm
by Arianya
gaytide ?

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:43 pm
by Dr_bee
Grazyn wrote:Assistants with rainbow suits are blasphemy against everything sacred and it should stay an emergency measure, also its effect is greatly reduced if it becomes a permanent thing because assistants learn to organize despite the difference in colour.

Used sparingly is much more effective at disrupting the tide


It doesnt matter if the tide organizes, it is so people can more easily call out assholes.

It is easier to shout about the asshole assistant in the red jumpsuit instead of the asshole assistant in grey jumpsuit number 29.

This is a non-invasive way of mitigating greytide to make it manageable.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:28 pm
by bandit
Dr_bee wrote:
Grazyn wrote:Assistants with rainbow suits are blasphemy against everything sacred and it should stay an emergency measure, also its effect is greatly reduced if it becomes a permanent thing because assistants learn to organize despite the difference in colour.

Used sparingly is much more effective at disrupting the tide


It doesnt matter if the tide organizes, it is so people can more easily call out assholes.

It is easier to shout about the asshole assistant in the red jumpsuit instead of the asshole assistant in grey jumpsuit number 29.

This is a non-invasive way of mitigating greytide to make it manageable.


this is part of the reason it got reverted, so antags can have some cover by disguising as graysuits

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:30 am
by Dr_bee
bandit wrote:
Dr_bee wrote:
Grazyn wrote:Assistants with rainbow suits are blasphemy against everything sacred and it should stay an emergency measure, also its effect is greatly reduced if it becomes a permanent thing because assistants learn to organize despite the difference in colour.

Used sparingly is much more effective at disrupting the tide


It doesnt matter if the tide organizes, it is so people can more easily call out assholes.

It is easier to shout about the asshole assistant in the red jumpsuit instead of the asshole assistant in grey jumpsuit number 29.

This is a non-invasive way of mitigating greytide to make it manageable.


this is part of the reason it got reverted, so antags can have some cover by disguising as graysuits


Why exactly do they not just disguise themselves via other means? This is not a good reason to revert that change. You can use this as a counter to greytide without hurting antag rounds.

If that was the actual reason for the revert, it is sad. Stop babying antags, self antag or actual antag.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:28 am
by kevinz000
grey is far better.
assistant pride.
grey is an iconic color of the assistants and should not be taken away.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:34 am
by PKPenguin321
kevinz000 wrote:grey is far better.
assistant pride.
grey is an iconic color of the assistants and should not be taken away.

Blessed post

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:23 am
by MrStonedOne
So what you're saying is, we should remove assmaint

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:25 am
by subject217
bandit wrote:this is part of the reason it got reverted, so antags can have some cover by disguising as graysuits

Was this "revert" ever actually discussed? It was my understanding that it was just one of the things missed when configs were unified.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:53 am
by iksyp
no

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:16 am
by Grazyn
You want to neuter the greytide forever and make it so no one would ever play assistant again? It's simple

rainbow suits
remove assmaint
set box as the only map (in case some assistant manage to get maint access from hop, also no public lathe)
remove public toolboxes
assistant cap because why not

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:11 pm
by somerandomguy
Grazyn wrote:You want to neuter the greytide forever and make it so no one would ever play assistant again? It's simple

rainbow suits
remove assmaint
set box as the only map (in case some assistant manage to get maint access from hop, also no public lathe)
remove public toolboxes
assistant cap because why not

Engi tide

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:40 pm
by Anuv
What if it was made into a random trigger/event? Kinda like how the staffing thing can happen or a random humanlike intlliegent animal

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:02 am
by CitrusGender
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looks like gaytide wins, sorry guys

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:38 am
by Lumbermancer
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Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:55 pm
by PKPenguin321
CitrusGender wrote:Image

looks like gaytide wins, sorry guys

The virgin headmin vs the chad gamemaster

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:45 pm
by CreationPro
CitrusGender wrote:Image

looks like gaytide wins, sorry guys

Image

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:19 am
by Doctor Pork
Add it to the admins secret menu so we can meme it at roundstart like triple ai mode.

Re: Config change: rainbow assistants

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:33 pm
by MrStonedOne
well, strictly speaking you can do that now by editing the config controller.