Is there any reason to really have a naming policy?

[WarbossLincoln]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Thread title.

Naming policy is so subjective and so arbitrarily enforced that there doesn't really seem to be a need for it at all.

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20628

In this thread a dude got ordered to change his cat beast's name from DePantherius X and was told that was a ridiculous name.

Is DePantherius X for a cat any more ridiculous than Cup Cake, Crocodillo, Gayden Homolove, Good Goodman, Tyrone Watermelon, Is-A-Lizard, Lamp Lover, Chad Thundercock, Pushes-And-Shoves, or any of the other degenerates we have running around the station?

[obscolene]

https://www.names.org/n/ostrava/about

just sayin...

thanks for the high IQ post as always, Delaron of /tg/station13

[Lazengann]

There's a "Makes-the-Memes"

[bandit]

in what universe is "Cleans-the-Floors" or "Pushes-and-Shoves" or "Is-a-Lizard" OOC in IC? words have fucking meanings, you know.

OOC in IC would be like "Crashes-the-BYOND" or "Bans-the-Players"

[Cobby]

Whats the issue with Bee's update? Seems reasonable and easy enough to understand/comply with if that is your intent.

I talked to oranges in discord and he said that there were double standards for human races and nonhuman races: the humans have more restrictions, and that it's hard to tell a human that Epic Meme is a shit name when lizards are running around with "Cleans-The-Floors" etc. Personally, I think that's dumb because that format has been accepted for a long time here, so in-universe it makes sense to have "Cleans-The-Floors", but Epic Meme makes no sense.

I also don't even understand or know the naming policy for flies and moths, I'd like to see one put in place but I don't know it. Other than that, I based the rewrite entirely off of the rules page and policy threads on naming conventions for each category and how it's actually enforced.

I think a better example would be Meme Lover vs. Loves-The-Memes. Guess which one will get you ahelped

[PKPenguin321]

in what universe is "Cleans-the-Floors" or "Pushes-and-Shoves" or "Is-a-Lizard" OOC in IC? words have fucking meanings, you know.

the universe that we copied our lizard names from

here is a list of randomly generated Argonian names from the elder scrolls

Ushla Andreedesh
Geeetul Theoseus
Mahat Canimean
Sakeius Theerteus
Pilsehk Nefelures
Hatus Thefilus
Effe-Nur Naglures
Dan-La Andreetius
Olink-Tah Endoresilus
Talen-Nur Cathees

here is the in-universe fictional pornography from which our server has decided to base all lizard names off of

Act IV, Scene III, continued

Lifts-Her-Tail
Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto
Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail
I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto
So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

and yes i know it's not strictly "OOC in IC" but the point is that these Verbs-the-Noun names are about the stupidest shit ever. literally all of them are an extension of a one-off joke from a universe that has actual lore and is actually immersive. why are we actively speaking against half decent fictionalized names that sound appropriate for an exotic species from 500 years in the future and vouching for awful shit like "Is-A-Lizard"

[confused rock]

ey I mean I remember this one time in skyrim when there was this quest called "unfathomable depths" and there was a lizard in it named from-deepest-fathoms so I think your opinion is in fact wrong, pkpenguin.

[subject217]

ive linked this twice in the last week and i am here linking it again
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Argonian_Names
ill copy and paste the relevant bit since i know you won't read
Cyrodilic: Also-He-Washes, Basks-In-The-Sun, Big Head, Dreaded-Water, Fine-Mouth, Grey-Throat, Hides-His-Eyes, Hides-His-Foot, High-Heart, Morning-Star-Steals-Away-Clouds, Nelix Fly-Breath, Nine-Toes, Only-He-Stands-There, Skink-in-Tree's-Shade, Smart-Snake, Smokeskin-Killer, Stream-Murk, Swims-In-Swells, Ten-Tongues Weerhat, Tongue-Toad, Twice-Bitten, Wind-In-His-Hair
Cyrodilic: Big Head, Cat-Face, Grey-Throat, Hauls-Ropes-Faster, Hears-Voices-In-The-Air, Hides-His-Heart, Hunting Tail, Raven Biter, Right-Wind, Scar-Tail, Sings-Like-Thunder, Tooth-in-the-Sea
Cyrodilic: Deep-In-His-Cups, Scouts-Many-Marshes, Stands-In-Shallows, Watches-The-Roots

this is the standard for argonian names translated into "cryodilic" which for our purposes is functionally english
so if you accept the whole epic lizardman argonian thing as more than an unofficial standard, you don't get to claim some sort of "Verbs the noun" nonsense or whatever the hell PKP posted

[Rustledjimm]

They should keep the words but translate them into lizard and use that as their name.

[Shadowflame909]

ive linked this twice in the last week and i am here linking it again
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Argonian_Names
ill copy and paste the relevant bit since i know you won't read
Cyrodilic: Also-He-Washes, Basks-In-The-Sun, Big Head, Dreaded-Water, Fine-Mouth, Grey-Throat, Hides-His-Eyes, Hides-His-Foot, High-Heart, Morning-Star-Steals-Away-Clouds, Nelix Fly-Breath, Nine-Toes, Only-He-Stands-There, Skink-in-Tree's-Shade, Smart-Snake, Smokeskin-Killer, Stream-Murk, Swims-In-Swells, Ten-Tongues Weerhat, Tongue-Toad, Twice-Bitten, Wind-In-His-Hair
Cyrodilic: Big Head, Cat-Face, Grey-Throat, Hauls-Ropes-Faster, Hears-Voices-In-The-Air, Hides-His-Heart, Hunting Tail, Raven Biter, Right-Wind, Scar-Tail, Sings-Like-Thunder, Tooth-in-the-Sea
Cyrodilic: Deep-In-His-Cups, Scouts-Many-Marshes, Stands-In-Shallows, Watches-The-Roots

this is the standard for argonian names translated into "cryodilic" which for our purposes is functionally english
so if you accept the whole epic lizardman argonian thing as more than an unofficial standard, you don't get to claim some sort of "Verbs the noun" nonsense or whatever the hell PKP posted

Thank you, Janny. PKP nearly convinced me that Lifts-Her-Tail's spawn is the reason all the lizards have verbs the noun names. Imagine if all Lizards were based on ERP?

haha that'd be a riot haha.

[elyina]

We have been arguing about this for 5 years now. Yes we need a naming policy to enforce a bare minimum of immersion. /tg/ is low rp, not no rp. Always has been and always will be. If you want no rp that badly there's plenty of other servers that will accommodate you. Trying to get some sort of concrete definition of what you can and cannot do is an exercise in futility and you'll never get it because it's literally impossible. Use common sense on what you think falls under "excessively OOC". If an admin tells you to change your name, but you think they are wrong, appeal it. Dealing with it on a case by case basis is the only feasible way. This is the same reason why the golden rule of the server is simply "Don't be a dick".

[confused rock]

Then your appeal gets denied, despite the fact that literally no admin for the past 6th months gave a shit. My immersions are absolutely SHATTERED by lamp lover, swanni, bal dee, and lexia black (literally named after an antagonist) please ban.

[Mickyan]

How did we get from talking about blatantly OOC names to proposing strict naming policies for non humans, about half of the examples in the OP are human names

There's no getting around to the fact that any naming policy is going to be open to interpretation to some degree. Having a creative committee of 2-3 admins that do care about naming policy that would approve or veto names that could be considered borderline would solve the issue of appeals that constantly shift the naming standards depending on who's involved. People that skirt the line shouldn't be surprised to have their name contested, even if it takes 6 months before someone notices.

My immersions are absolutely SHATTERED by lamp lover, swanni, bal dee, and lexia black (literally named after an antagonist) please ban.

I am going to end this trash-talking of my awesome name once and for all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eupithecia_swanni

[confused rock]

Then why can't I see any humans named sapien
It don't take 6 months for someone to notice, it takes 6 months to find an admin who hates the name that countless other admins noticed and were perfectly fine with/didn't personally dislike the player being name banned
absolutely no reason for flypeople especially to have meme names when they're literally just humans who can't teleport properly

[Shezza]

this thread: hot garbage
me, an intelectual: anyone who abuses the freedom to make a name for his/her character that is shit and/or obnoxious to the point of admin intervention deserves to have that freedom taken away

"but shezza where is the hypothetical line i can't cross"

if you cannot reasonably explain the story behind the name you have then you clearly crossed it

raised-by-lizards is a good example
its a realistic name for a human because a human raised by lizards and potentially taking on a lizard name scheme is a fun interesting backstory

[Shadowflame909]

this thread: hot garbage
me, an intelectual: anyone who abuses the freedom to make a name for his/her character that is shit and/or obnoxious to the point of admin intervention deserves to have that freedom taken away

"but shezza where is the hypothetical line i can't cross"

if you cannot reasonably explain the story behind the name you have then you clearly crossed it

raised-by-lizards is a good example
its a realistic name for a human because a human raised by lizards and potentially taking on a lizard name scheme is a fun interesting backstory

is this not a good enough naming policy?

[confused rock]

Now lady ari gets banned for being named, well, lady ari. I don't think many people ever liked lady ari, they've never been on the forums sans for ban appeals and requests, they're awkward at best in game, and I've never heard good about them. I've never seen them do anything particularly egregious though, either.

That's exactly what's wrong with that ban.

Lady is a kind of creepy name, but it's definitely a real name. It happens. Lady gaga is named Lady (well Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta but there are people actually named lady). How many people are named ostrava? I don't know anyone named Ari, but it sounds like a last name. Definitely makes more sense as a name than xerxes or lumi or talos or something. According to naming policy as it is written and should be rewritten, even if enforcement is going to be stricter, it can be infinitely strict and lady ari qualifies for:

isn't "excessively OOC" check. I don't see any way lady ari is excessively ooc. lola cobblestone is more ooc because the player is cobby.

"a firstname lastname minimum is required. nicknames are ok" check

"Minimum effort to have your name fit in a wacky space station" I see definitely minimum effort, at minimum. Their name isn't lady peeepee or something. it's not queen lady ari. It's not even something like lada oralis that couldn't be comprehended as a name someone has. for a space station? I Can see the name lady sticking around, and ari being more common.

"name is dumb" whoops.

Lady Ari's been the name for 6 years. They've never been popular, but there wasn't much to ban em for. Now subject bans them completely out of nowhere, and I doubt this was subject's first time seeing them. I've never heard much against the name either (unless all admins are secretly whisperin about the name, which would be dumber than the name itself) so I can only see the ban on the name as an attack on the player itself, since there's nothing else that they could ban them for. Either that, or subject is just banning so they can rile people up on policy, or they're just stupid. not sure which is worse.








Also to talk about shezza's example, it doesn't work because not every name has a backstory to it. I mean for names like ostrava of nanotrasen and raised-by-lizards, yeah, but it doesn't say anything of names that were just given at birth like lady ari or what.

[zxaber]

I dunno, I find Lady Ari more believable than, say, literal meme Chad Thundercock.

I feel like we're on the edge of shooting ourselves in the foot here. There's certainly a point to making sure names are roughly believable (and pronounceable), but letting players have some creativity with their snowflakes isn't a bad thing.

[subject217]

Lady Ari's been the name for 6 years. They've never been popular, but there wasn't much to ban em for. Now subject bans them completely out of nowhere, and I doubt this was subject's first time seeing them. I've never heard much against the name either (unless all admins are secretly whisperin about the name, which would be dumber than the name itself) so I can only see the ban on the name as an attack on the player itself, since there's nothing else that they could ban them for. Either that, or subject is just banning so they can rile people up on policy, or they're just stupid. not sure which is worse.

I was told to do it by a head admin. The verdict isn't out on that one yet but the head admins have been thinking about naming policy for a good while.

[oranges]

if by thinking you can conjure the image of three people pissing into the wind and complaining about splashback then yeah.

[Dax Dupont]

Lady ari I'm should be fine imo unless they use the lady part as a title.

Meanwhile we have bigus mcgringus running around

[Yakumo_Chen]

Pretty much every assistant main I see has a literal meme name, why are we cracking down on random quiet players?

[leibniz]

All this "what about x, they have a stupider name" makes me feel like tolerance was a mistake, a purge is needed tbh

[Dax Dupont]

All this "what about x, they have a stupider name" makes me feel like tolerance was a mistake, a purge is needed tbh

yes

[confused rock]

Headmin can't make a ban themselves? Lady Ari still is very far from a meme name.

[Dax Dupont]

Headmin can't make a ban themselves? Lady Ari still is very far from a meme name.

the longer you are an admin the less you play
this is amplified for headmins

[Higashikata Josuke]

Naming policy is fucking ridiculous in its current state and every time someone's name is forcibly changed by an admin the defense is "uhh, policy changed recently" without any explanation given as to why the change is positive or how it affects people. Ostrava of Nanotrasen was fine for a while despite blatantly breaking conventions, then not okay for a while, then back to okay again, back and forth? DePantheryus X isn't okay, nor is Freddy SuperfuckinglongnameIcantactuallyremembersodonttakethisliterally? Then why allow long names at all? It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

[MortoSasye]

Yeah, i can understand why it looks like an admin is fucking with someone they don't like, as most of the times their names get rejected. Then, they log in on the station only to see other people running around with names as, or even dumber than the ones they had without any punishment.

Rule 3 Precents.

1. Excessively OOC names fall under rule 3. Make a minimum effort to have your name fit in a setting involving a wacky space station in the future. A firstname lastname minimum is required and no honorifics are allowed. Nicknames in the middle are ok. Admins may get involved if your name is dumb and can approve or disallow names at their discretion while in-game.

This is all there is on the rules about naming policy, it doesn't show examples to the players about which names are okay and which are not. I feel that at the very least a simple list of examples of names which aren't allowed would work.

[actioninja]

While I personally would be more in favor of stricter rules for naming, the current state is fucking stupid no matter what side you're on. It's this stupid mixture of being strict and not being strict that results in harmless players with names technically against policy getting ID banned while some ridiculously bad names just roll free because they technically fit naming policy.
Either loosen it and make it clear that shit names are allowed, or tighten it and enforce it consistently.

[bandit]

in what universe is "Cleans-the-Floors" or "Pushes-and-Shoves" or "Is-a-Lizard" OOC in IC? words have fucking meanings, you know.

the universe that we copied our lizard names from

here is a list of randomly generated Argonian names from the elder scrolls

Ushla Andreedesh
Geeetul Theoseus
Mahat Canimean
Sakeius Theerteus
Pilsehk Nefelures
Hatus Thefilus
Effe-Nur Naglures
Dan-La Andreetius
Olink-Tah Endoresilus
Talen-Nur Cathees

here is the in-universe fictional pornography from which our server has decided to base all lizard names off of

Act IV, Scene III, continued

Lifts-Her-Tail
Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto
Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail
I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto
So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

and yes i know it's not strictly "OOC in IC" but the point is that these Verbs-the-Noun names are about the stupidest shit ever. literally all of them are an extension of a one-off joke from a universe that has actual lore and is actually immersive. why are we actively speaking against half decent fictionalized names that sound appropriate for an exotic species from 500 years in the future and vouching for awful shit like "Is-A-Lizard"

in real life people have been named things like Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, how is it unreasonable that a culture might pattern their names off "Verbs-the-Noun"

[Kryson]

in real life people have been named things like Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, how is it unreasonable that a culture might pattern their names off "Verbs-the-Noun"

It is sadly not based on what is reasonable rather it seems to be based on the individual admins feelings at that moment.

I understand having to police gibberish names, but just because a name is unusual does not mean it promotes norp and should be banned.

Having the first name Lady, is unusual but not unreasonable.

Just because someone has a name you could not imagine you or your neighbour having does not make them inherently ridiculous.

Take for example Nigeria's former president Goodluck Jonathan(or his wife Patience Jonathan), in the west his name is considered unusual, but in Nigeria completely normal. Infact Queen is not an uncommon first name for girls in Nigeria, I bet you can find a few Nigerian ladies named Lady as well!

As for my own case, Nervere might have found the concept of my character ridiculous, but being instantly identifiable as a Nation of Islam adherent led to good RP on several occasions. I do not consider it a joke name or believe that it fosters norp.

[subject217]

It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

[Shadowflame909]

It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Like what

[Nilons]

It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Counter productive to spend so much time doing it then (also why are you posting if you have much better things to do than administrate)

it shouldn't matter if its dumb, only if its ooc/disruptive

[Kangtut]

Unless we want to spend every waking moment policing every dumb name we see then we should just deal with names that are blatantly trying to push the rules and move on. It's clear that we can't even agree on what is an acceptable name because one will say Cup Cake is fine and yet another will say Lady isn't a suitable name. I'm all for increasing RP quality, but there are far more annoying things that break immersion than a silly name and the name that got this thread made wasn't even a bad one to begin with.

[Shadowflame909]

Naming Policy is too strict.

If you can't get a reasonable backstory for your name, that can be cited with some form of decent evidence to back it up. Then you can get dunked on.

I'm in the Depantherius is a fine name group, though. Names like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAA" or "HitormissIguesstheynevermisshuh" is where we should draw the line.

Edit: If you don't get what I mean, names that actually sound like names and won't otherwise break immersion. Just anything that isn't random gibberish or slur, and can be pronounced.

[Higashikata Josuke]

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Well it doesn't always come across that way. Why the fuck is Analina Seviper or whatever the fuck okay but DePantheryus X isn't? I'm not making a claim that you all think my retarded anime metafriend is a sucky person and you want to bully them, I'm saying you have so little consistency with rulings among the team (and even through the same admin's posts at times) that it can come pretty easily across as bias.

[subject217]

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Well it doesn't always come across that way. Why the fuck is Analina Seviper or whatever the fuck okay but DePantheryus X isn't? I'm not making a claim that you all think my retarded anime metafriend is a sucky person and you want to bully them, I'm saying you have so little consistency with rulings among the team (and even through the same admin's posts at times) that it can come pretty easily across as bias.

I'll assume you mean Araylina Svipul. I don't really have a problem with that one to be honest, sure it's weird but it's not blatantly attempting to circumvent the policy, especially in a boring or un-creative way. I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Language is very complicated. There is no simple easy answer for naming policy. On /tg/ we generally try to avoid making long, overly specific, heavily lawyered rules (with some exceptions). Expecting consistency on something like this is very challenging. The easiest way is to simply make a normal-sounding name. Tons of players do this and tons of players have never gotten bwoinked about naming policy.

It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Like what

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Also before someone says "You'd let x fly but not Lady Ari?" I'll reiterate that I did that at the request of a Head Admin and I probably wouldn't have done it otherwise.

[Kryson]

I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

????

The agenda is real

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

RP wise, why would Nanotrasen force me to use my slave name instead of my Muslim name?

The real names of our people were destroyed during slavery. The last name of my forefathers was taken from them when they were brought to America and made slaves, and then the name of the slave master was given, which we refuse, we reject that name today and refuse it. I never acknowledge it whatsoever.

[subject217]

I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

[UltimateGamer21]

In 2018 parents be naming their kids Brataytay and Skyrim Dovahkiin and Brumble and Abcde and admins insist yoi must be called something like Harold Weinstein or John Smith or else it breaks the immersion of a top down 2d sci Fi Garry's mod clone

[leibniz]

In 2018 parents be naming their kids Brataytay and Skyrim Dovahkiin and Brumble and Abcde and admins insist yoi must be called something like Harold Weinstein or John Smith or else it breaks the immersion of a top down 2d sci Fi Garry's mod clone

It's almost like those parents are retarded and we want the game to have a cool sci-fi atmosphere.

Woah like I watched Blade Runner 2049 and none of the characters were called Poopbutt McAss even tho I'm going to call my child that??
fuck you Villeneuveeueue you fucking HACK its not realistic, learn to scifi

[Grazyn]

I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

I've been playing a similar character named Gus Dejeux for a long time now, should I use another character when I see you on adminwho?

[DrunkenMatey]

From a longer news article you can google if you want.

"A Texas mother is calling out a Southwest Airlines employee who she said mocked her 5-year-old daughter’s name and then posted a picture of the small child’s boarding pass on social media.

Traci Redford told ABC affiliate KABC her daughter’s name is Abcde, which is pronounced “ab-si-dee.”"

"Although Abcde is an unusual name, it’s not unheard of. In 2014, Vocativ reported that over the past three decades, 328 baby girls have been given that name, 32 of whom were born in 2009."

[subject217]

I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

I've been playing a similar character named Gus Dejeux for a long time now, should I use another character when I see you on adminwho?

I'm gonna say this again. I don't give a rat's ass about stupid names unless they're super OOC. I only talked to Lady Ari because I was asked to. That's not how every admin is though. Nobody in their right mind would actually have a problem with Gus Dejeux, this is pure fantasy and fear mongering on your part.

[Vaina]

I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

I've been playing a similar character named Gus Dejeux for a long time now, should I use another character when I see you on adminwho?

I'm gonna say this again. I don't give a rat's ass about stupid names unless they're super OOC.

You noted me for using the name "Mann Snotnose" while I was offline--for which I'm now on thin ice. Dubious affirmation at best, outright lie at worst.

[subject217]

Ah nice, now you're taking things out of context to use as a personal attack against me. You were playing as booger boy, told not to do this, and then the next thing you do is name yourself "mann snotnose". Fuck off, dude, you're full of shit.

[Rustledjimm]

All this "what about x, they have a stupider name" makes me feel like tolerance was a mistake, a purge is needed tbh

[Vaina]

Ah nice, now you're taking things out of context to use as a personal attack against me. You were playing as booger boy, told not to do this, and then the next thing you do is name yourself "mann snotnose".

Let me add the context, then.
Yes, I was verbally warned by an admin (whose name I can't remember) and Nabski for using the name Booger Boy. Of course, at the time I wasn't happy about this (at the time), and tried to explain myself to them as best as I could. I'll preface this by admitting I'm not always the most level-headed, but I do try to maintain some measure of civility, and I don't believe I overstepped my boundaries there. It didn't seem fair to me that I was forced to change my name while "Tyrone Watermelon", "Gayden Homolove", and "Cup Cake" were allowed theirs. It wasn't lawyering or sharking; it was a sensible protest.

But it was what it was. I complied despite my dissatisfaction with the ruling. And soon enough, I agreed with the two admins--it was a dumb name. So I did what was asked of me and resolved to change it to something more "acceptable" by the standards set forth. My two options were "Billy Boogers" and "Mann Snotnose". I settled on the latter thinking it would gel with the likes of every other silly--but permitted--name on the server.

Lo and behold, your note.

Fuck off, dude, you're full of shit.

It's not a personal attack if I'm just stating the facts. There's no need to get aggressive.

[Nabski]

Ah nice, now you're taking things out of context to use as a personal attack against me. You were playing as booger boy, told not to do this, and then the next thing you do is name yourself "mann snotnose".

Let me add the context, then.
Yes, I was verbally warned by an admin (whose name I can't remember) and Nabski for using the name Booger Boy. Of course, at the time I wasn't happy about this (at the time), and tried to explain myself to them as best as I could. I'll preface this by admitting I'm not always the most level-headed, but I do try to maintain some measure of civility, and I don't believe I overstepped my boundaries there. It didn't seem fair to me that I was forced to change my name while "Tyrone Watermelon", "Gayden Homolove", and "Cup Cake" were allowed theirs. It wasn't lawyering or sharking; it was a sensible protest.

But it was what it was. I complied despite my dissatisfaction with the ruling. And soon enough, I agreed with the two admins--it was a dumb name. So I did what was asked of me and resolved to change it to something more "acceptable" by the standards set forth. My two options were "Billy Boogers" and "Mann Snotnose". I settled on the latter thinking it would gel with the likes of every other silly--but permitted--name on the server.

Lo and behold, your note.

Fuck off, dude, you're full of shit.

It's not a personal attack if I'm just stating the facts. There's no need to get aggressive.

I vaguely remember this. Maybe. I agree that it's still super silly, but could at least possible resemble a name.
BUT
Now we've hit that critical point were enough people on the server have seen enough other people getting away with stupid names that we're doing the bi-annual name clean-up. It's not the first round of clean-ups the servers having to do, and it's not the last.

[oranges]

It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Like what

spam midi's duh

[iamgoofball]

Apparently " Discount Lightbulb" is not okay for ethereals even when claiming my OC donut steel was raised by racist humans, discuss