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Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby oranges » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:01 pm #473985

Right now, the admin complaints forum is limited to in game conduct, and does not handle things from outside of that.


However, in modern tg, admins have a far greater range of responsibilities, from forum moderation, to discord moderation.

In light of that, I believe it would be a good, transparent move to make admin complaints extended to allow complaints about forum and discord moderation.

Note: I am not suggesting that complaints be allowed about admin posts/comments in these places, just if they use moderation powers to kick/delete/ban people, those be complainable about.


Why: It's important to ensure our use of administrative powers is transparent, and subjected to oversight. Part of that is resolving complaints in a semi-public fashion (semi public as not everyone can post about it).
This is a good way for people to see that the admins do indeed police what is acceptable and not acceptable when using forum and discord.

FNR admin complaints is a pre-existing forum, setup to allow proper moderation and with a good set of rules/guidelines and to me, seems a perfect fit.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Dax Dupont » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:59 pm #474025

This should only apply to powers though, I don't want people making complaints because they are offended because I posted a meme on discord.

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby iamgoofball » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:07 am #474027

Dax Dupont wrote:This should only apply to powers though, I don't want people making complaints because they are offended because I posted a meme on discord.

If you post racist memes, you deserve the complaint as admins are representatives of the community.

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Shadowflame909 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:36 am #474030

Dax Dupont wrote:This should only apply to powers though, I don't want people making complaints because they are offended because I posted a meme on discord.


Yeah. That's what Admin Feedback is for
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:44 am #474032

Dax Dupont wrote:I posted a meme on discord.

too bad, those are actionable.

maybe we'll tell you to stop. maybe we won't so we can instead punish you later.

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Gigapuddi420 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:33 am #474046

I makes sense to have a place to lodge a complaint if some admin is kicking people they shouldn't. Presumably it would mirror the way players can appeal discord bans in the appeal forum.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby oranges » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:35 am #474047

Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:I posted a meme on discord.

too bad, those are actionable.

maybe we'll tell you to stop. maybe we won't so we can instead punish you later.

yeah this is pretty ironic considering headadmins have taken into account what people have said on discord.

Anyway that's what I said in my post
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Rustledjimm » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:53 am #474088

I honestly thought I changed this during my term.

It should be changed to include things other than just in game. We are admins of a community not just a game. L
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby iamgoofball » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:34 am #474179

Rustledjimm wrote:I honestly thought I changed this during my term.

It should be changed to include things other than just in game. We are admins of a community not just a game. L

It was said that it would be changed after the Ausops abuse scandal then never happened.

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby oranges » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:21 am #475787

Headadmin respodn to my thread
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby BeeSting12 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:42 pm #475821

I've always wanted this. If an admin has powers somewhere, it should be an area under the jurisdiction of admin complaints, if only for the purposes of transparency. I was never a fan of seeing a possibly legit complaint flooded with "THIS BOARD IS FOR SPECIFIC INCIDENCES OF IN-GAME ADMIN ABUSE." instead of saying why it was or wasn't abuse.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Lazengann » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:24 pm #475834

make it a subforum for good recordkeeping

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:20 pm #475842

will it also have irl complaints?

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Qbmax32 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:45 pm #475875

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:will it also have irl complaints?



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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Karp » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:06 am #476022

Lazengann wrote:make it a subforum for good recordkeeping


that but unironically, really good idea

I'd argue to include forum mods who aren't server admins and maintainer complaints in case of power abuse but i guess separation memes

I'd only really oppose this if it included non-moderation powers (e.g. admin called me a dumbass in the general chat for complaining about dying)

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby LaKiller8 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:24 pm #476053

Anyone who is in any position of power should be accountable and auditable for the things they do, and not only in-game. Administrators represent a community even while playing on other servers, and if they show a lack of respect for the rules there that doesn't paint the best picture of their team.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby 4dplanner » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:00 pm #477082

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby oranges » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:30 pm #477138

headadmins please
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Qbmax32 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:39 pm #477140

please sir we are hungry
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Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate

BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.

feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing

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Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.

Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread

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FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.

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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby wubli » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:15 pm #477301

i agree, i suppose it made sense when that rule was first written but now it's only fair it includes situations outside of the game
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:04 am #478093

Yeah make a subforum called “OOC Activity Complaints” or something so that people who feel wronged on discord or the forums can say their piece officially
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Atlanta-Ned » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:20 am #478538

This should be a thing and I'm surprised that it isn't yet.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Rustledjimm » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:14 pm #478844

Nothing is going to happen until after the elections. I hope the new headmin team take this idea seriously and make it one of their first considerations.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Arianya » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:47 am #480223

We discussed this pre-election and more or less came to a conclusion, but the overriding feeling at the moment is that it'd be improper rule on something, that changes a fundamental aspect of the administration team, during the election period.

We'll be discussing this with the incoming headmins, whomsoever they might be, and will most likely give a definitive answer before handover.
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Re: Extent of admin complaints forum

Postby Hulkamania » Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:14 am #487730

The admin complaints forum has now been expanded to accommodate a wider range of abuse. To that end I am resolving this thread. For more information please see viewtopic.php?f=41&t=22277


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