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make moths the genetics meme species we want roundstart snails NOW

i hate you I really do

just so we're clear, if any headadmin makes these roundstart I will remove all species configs and set them to how I want instead.

then whats the point of the config if youre gonna dictate the way it's set?

snail gang rise up

BeeSting12 wrote:then whats the point of the config if youre gonna dictate the way it's set?

I have no problem with configs

I have a problem where the headadmins are taking content we have assigned for one purpose and reassigning it because we made the species configs as general as possible.

Fly people have already been fucking ruined in their interest because they're roundstart, which makes the teleport error fucking worthless.

if they do the same with snails then they're just ruining what makes the thing interesting, which is it's uniqueness and rareness.

No matter how much I want to see a bunch of slimy snails in dorms, I agree with Oranges on this one.

snails are too much of a shitpost race that can fuck with people at a no-risk high-reward ratio. imagine if there was hordes of snailpeople all crawling around in the halls and the halls were perma lubed.
if you imagined said scenario but your first thought was, 'that would be great,' then i'm afraid you've got a fucking screw loose

oranges wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:then whats the point of the config if youre gonna dictate the way it's set?

I have no problem with configs

I have a problem where the headadmins are taking content we have assigned for one purpose and reassigning it because we made the species configs as general as possible.

Fly people have already been fucking ruined in their interest because they're roundstart, which makes the teleport error fucking worthless.

if they do the same with snails then they're just ruining what makes the thing interesting, which is it's uniqueness and rareness.

I disagree with you that fly people as a concept are made better for being "rare" by only being attainable by intentionally smashing your face into a teleporter. You've never clarified how they're "ruined" other then the fact that it makes a very niche reference to a movie from the 80s not the sole source of it.

That said, I don't see any good reason to add snails to roundstart config (especially when they are effectively walking spacelube dispensers). Neither do I see a good reason to remove flies from the config at this time, though if there were a race (no, not the snails, shut up imsxz) to replace them (so that racial selection wasn't literally just "humans, moths and lizards, with the odd catperson") I'd certainly be more motivated to do so.

Arianya wrote:

oranges wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:then whats the point of the config if youre gonna dictate the way it's set?

I have no problem with configs

I have a problem where the headadmins are taking content we have assigned for one purpose and reassigning it because we made the species configs as general as possible.

Fly people have already been fucking ruined in their interest because they're roundstart, which makes the teleport error fucking worthless.

if they do the same with snails then they're just ruining what makes the thing interesting, which is it's uniqueness and rareness.

I disagree with you that fly people as a concept are made better for being "rare" by only being attainable by intentionally smashing your face into a teleporter. You've never clarified how they're "ruined" other then the fact that it makes a very niche reference to a movie from the 80s not the sole source of it.

That said, I don't see any good reason to add snails to roundstart config (especially when they are effectively walking spacelube dispensers). Neither do I see a good reason to remove flies from the config at this time, though if there were a race (no, not the snails, shut up imsxz) to replace them (so that racial selection wasn't literally just "humans, moths and lizards, with the odd catperson") I'd certainly be more motivated to do so.

So....remove flies from the roundstart option and re-add catgirls to it?

oranges wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:then whats the point of the config if youre gonna dictate the way it's set?

I have no problem with configs

I have a problem where the headadmins are taking content we have assigned for one purpose and reassigning it because we made the species configs as general as possible.

Fly people have already been fucking ruined in their interest because they're roundstart, which makes the teleport error fucking worthless.

if they do the same with snails then they're just ruining what makes the thing interesting, which is it's uniqueness and rareness.

Eh. I kinda agree as it did undo a mechanic that was unique and was interesting to learn about the first time you fucked up a teleporter to start buzzing.

Only downside is not being able to make a fly named Sy Fly as a medical doctor.

Honestly remove flies as a roundstart please and thank you

Agreeing with Jimm

I’ve never seen a serious fly player stick around for more than 2 rounds puking everywhere. They can still hop in a teleporter if they want a fucking, and not only does roundstart fly make fly accidents duller, teleport accidents mean fly roundstart is duller. I suppose flies are good as “completely nondescript no customization hardmode ugly fucker” but plasmamen do that as well. Yeah, now I wish flies weren’t roundstart. We need more dumb charming annoyances like orange soda being lemon lime and the fly warp.

confused rock wrote:I’ve never seen a serious fly player stick around for more than 2 rounds puking everywhere. They can still hop in a teleporter if they want a fucking, and not only does roundstart fly make fly accidents duller, teleport accidents mean fly roundstart is duller. I suppose flies are good as “completely nondescript no customization hardmode ugly fucker” but plasmamen do that as well. Yeah, now I wish flies weren’t roundstart. We need more dumb charming annoyances like orange soda being lemon lime and the fly warp.

I can get behind flies not being a roundstart race.

I can especially get behind not having a roundstart race that slips floors. Can you imagine every round having 30+ slugs making it impossible to walk upright? The only thing SS13 players are good at is running things into the ground.

Roundstart slugs are only acceptable if they're valid on sight and if salt does gigantic brute damage on contact with them. 4 or 5 rounds in a row of making salt fog machines would cure the slug spam.

Arianya wrote:(no, not the snails, shut up imsxz)

based players agreeing with me.

Arianya you are wrong, just admit it.

arianya over here saying without flies race selection would be "literally just "humans, moths and lizards, with the odd catperson" what did they mean by this???????
PS that sounds appealing

I agree with oranges

i prefer flies being unique to teleporter fuck ups tbh at least the meme of projectile vomitting everywhere hasnt been big recently

imsxz wrote:i prefer flies being unique to teleporter fuck ups tbh at least the meme of projectile vomitting everywhere hasnt been big recently

Then why would you want snails to be roundstart? Their 'meme' is exponentially worse than just puke decals on the floor.

i agree, roundstart flies are gross and ruin the point of them; then we can just leave it an open slot in the config for something else (ssssssssssnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiilllll ggggaaaaannnnnnnngggg)

imsxz is being a meme, but I just wanted to make sure our position was adequately expressed.

I 100% want roundstart flies gone though, it really really really annoys me they were made roundstart.

It'd be ilke making podpersons roundstart.

I agree with what's been said. I've never seen anyone play an actual fly character more than a week. There was someone on Sybil who was SUPER hype about making a fly guy, he asked me about proper naming conventions and what would be appropriate. This guy kept the character for all of three days and then went back to other races.

Fly people could be removed from roundstart and no one would miss them.

Edit: It's also not just humans, lizards and catpeople. It's also plasmamen and ethereals.

I can think of TWO fly statics, One was like Buzz SOMETHING and A. Maphoo.

+1 for removing flies from roundstart

There really isnt any fucking lore behind flypeople anyway.

Mothpeople need some fucking lore as well, or a language.

Dr_bee wrote:There really isnt any fucking lore behind flypeople anyway.

Mothpeople need some fucking lore as well, or a language.

moth liek lamp and le station has lamps on it :DDDD

moths were a shitpost we probably shouldn't have gone ahead with it

I wish naming policy was more enforced so we could ban lamp lover at this point the dead moth memes are reaching "cake is a lie" tier bad

Humans, lizards, moths, plasmen, ethereals, cats (though critically endangered) are already a pretty wide roundstart selection, enough to give the "cantina station" feeling. I think roundstart flies were added almost immediately after the teleporter malfunction thing, because I found out about the malfunction only after I was already used to flies everywhere, which kinda cheapened it. We could really do without flies being roundstart.

I miss when cloth golems were turned on during Halloween. Wraps the security mummy was fun.

Grazyn wrote:Humans, lizards, moths, plasmen, ethereals, cats (though critically endangered) are already a pretty wide roundstart selection, enough to give the "cantina station" feeling. I think roundstart flies were added almost immediately after the teleporter malfunction thing, because I found out about the malfunction only after I was already used to flies everywhere, which kinda cheapened it. We could really do without flies being roundstart.

The malfunction was added in 2013.

oranges wrote:moths were a shitpost we probably shouldn't have gone ahead with it

moths are MRTYcode how could you let this happen?? this is how he keeps coming back

I'm just here to tell you that flies are superior.

The whole 'they're ruined' sounds funny because I don't see memes with them or them being played all the time, so not sure how. The fly accident still exists if someone doesn't do the teleporter right.
The flies as a thing you can choose is recent compared to how long flies have been in. Way before that, I liked using the teleporter because I liked to faff around as a fly. Its fine how it is.

Hulkamania wrote: Fly people could be removed from roundstart and no one would miss them.

I would, and have been using a fly setup in my options since they were roundstart option.

If almost no one is playing a fly (so they are rarely seen), why would them being a roundstart race cheapen the teleporter accident event?

Gamarr wrote:I'm just here to tell you that flies are superior.

The whole 'they're ruined' sounds funny because I don't see memes with them or them being played all the time, so not sure how. The fly accident still exists if someone doesn't do the teleporter right.
The flies as a thing you can choose is recent compared to how long flies have been in. Way before that, I liked using the teleporter because I liked to faff around as a fly. Its fine how it is.

Hulkamania wrote: Fly people could be removed from roundstart and no one would miss them.

I would, and have been using a fly setup in my options since they were roundstart option.

are you trying to boondoggle me again

ATHATH wrote:If almost no one is playing a fly (so they are rarely seen), why would them being a roundstart race cheapen the teleporter accident event?

I mean if a holocaust just sorta happened from time to time then Hitler performing one wouldn't be so notable, you might not even realise he did it on purpose, but here we are now.

confused rock wrote:

ATHATH wrote:If almost no one is playing a fly (so they are rarely seen), why would them being a roundstart race cheapen the teleporter accident event?

I mean if a holocaust just sorta happened from time to time then Hitler performing one wouldn't be so notable, you might not even realise he did it on purpose, but here we are now.

what

Gamarr wrote:I'm just here to tell you that flies are superior.

The whole 'they're ruined' sounds funny because I don't see memes with them or them being played all the time, so not sure how. The fly accident still exists if someone doesn't do the teleporter right.
The flies as a thing you can choose is recent compared to how long flies have been in. Way before that, I liked using the teleporter because I liked to faff around as a fly. Its fine how it is.

Hulkamania wrote: Fly people could be removed from roundstart and no one would miss them.

I would, and have been using a fly setup in my options since they were roundstart option.

it's ruined, because it's no longer a fun surprise to discover and be a fly, because who the fuck cares, it's a roundstart race that anyone can be now.

oranges is 1000% correct on this but I'm assuming imsxz is semi joking with this thread

only round start species available should be humans or liggers

prove me wrong

Skillywatt wrote:oranges is 1000% correct on this but I'm assuming imsxz is semi joking with this thread

only round start species available should be humans or liggers

prove me wrong

Lizards are a race played by furfag ERPers exclusively. The only good roundstart races are Humans, Plasmamen, and Ethereals. Catpeople, Moths, and Lizards are just ERP bait garbage that should be removed. Flypeople aren't a bad race, but they have no redeeming qualities and should not be roundstart.

Lizards are a race played by furfag ERPers exclusively.

Objectively false. How else will I play someone named memes-the-noun while getting shit on by silicons?

imsxz wrote:

oranges wrote:moths were a shitpost we probably shouldn't have gone ahead with it

moths are MRTYcode how could you let this happen?? this is how he keeps coming back

It was before he got blocked from the repo iirc

I fucking love moths and play as one now. They are easily the best race

Alright, solid middle ground:

Go full on Catgirls on the Flies.
Bring it to a poll to slowly restrict roundstart flies over time, and it the discussion suddenly causes an uptick in interesting fly characters/gimmicks you can renege on the decision, and if not, all 5 fly players can still enjoy their gimmick.
Granted, I don't think people will mind as much about their inclusion, as it goes into the classic discussion about how ss13 races (With maybe Ashlizards and borgs as the notable exceptions) aren't really all their different in terms of typical playstyle.

Never go full catgirl.

Arcanemusic wrote:all 5 fly players can still enjoy their gimmick.

How are we going to contact those five players since I bet some of them are taking breaks.

>announce new thing
>immediate "make thing roundstart" even before its gone live

Can we stop doing this already?

cedarbridge wrote:>announce new thing
>immediate "make thing roundstart" even before its gone live

Can we stop doing this already?

???? i made this post after i had played as a snail what are you smoking