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Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

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Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby Kangtut » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:55 am #507359

Why do we allow this to continue? Mood changes encourage clowns to wear their shoes, but clowns still run around with jackboots or sneakers on, forgoing their heritage and bringing shame to clown kind. We have found the solution to the talking mime problem and it would work just as well for shoe-less clowns too. Simple bullying isn't enough either; I have put the vile creatures in cuffed prisoner shoes only for filthy sympathizers to free them and allow them to continue on their wicked way. The time has come to make a stand! Wear your shoes or die!

For real though, shoe-less clowns are stupid and bullying isn't enough from my experience. The only issue I can see with making them valid is people stripping them of their shoes to get them lynched. That kind of behavior can be treated similar to a non-antag getting a non-human lynched by the borgs - the person who stripped the clown's shoes is held responsible for the clown's death. If a traitor did it then the clown was probably dead either way.



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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby cacogen » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 am #507362

nah
also this newer thing of killing mimes for talking is autistic

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby Gigapuddi420 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:48 am #507363

Nah. As much as I dislike it, Mime speaking is a choice from the mime. You can't force a mime to talk to make them valid. Clown shoes are something you could push the clown over for and remove from them. Aside from how easy it is to steal their shoes it is also bad for cosplaying clowns who want more fitting foot wear for their costume that round. Just bully clowns bad clowns.
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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby wesoda25 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:04 pm #507399

100% make them valid. Mimes speech and clowns shoes are both integral parts to their roles.
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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby cacogen » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:52 am #507454

Gigapuddi420 wrote: it is also bad for cosplaying clowns who want more fitting foot wear for their costume that round

oh yeah of course, part of the clown and mime's jobs involve dressing up in different costumes, so this is another reason it would be stupid to punish a clown without slow clown shoes
it also fucks traitor clowns
and i also played a clown unimaginatively called "depressed clown" (as opposed to pagliacci or something a little less obvious) who shunned all his bright clown get-up in favour of drab, worn clothes and only kept the mask and pink PDA to signify they were a lapsed clown. so in other words, it limits roleplay for no reason other than player autism trying to force playstyles on other people

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby ThanatosRa » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 am #507714

Anyone who demands something should be valid should be gently reminded that this bad(and not be made valid themselves as that could encourage escalation).
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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:14 pm #507849

ThanatosRa wrote:Anyone who demands something should be valid should be gently reminded that this bad(and not be made valid themselves as that could encourage escalation).

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby John_Gobbel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:16 pm #507920

I regularly take the clown's shoes as punishment. Making the clown valid for that turns the punishment from an innocent punishment that keeps them from getting a honk mech and bringing them shame to potentially taking them out of the round. I don't want to do that to them and I certainly don't want them to pursue me with deadly force to get their shoes back if I take them.

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby ThanatosRa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:57 pm #507928

Besides. On the rare times I play how would i do.the bananaman gimmick.

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby skoglol » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:54 am #507960

Just take their feet. It's not like they need them anymore.

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Re: Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid

Postby Hulkamania » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:32 pm #508912

Shoeless clowns have been specifically encouraged via code changes to allow them to wear appropriate clothing for dress up shenanigans. No longer do they have a negative moodlet for being without their shoes. A clown is supposed to dress up to their hearts content, limiting that by making them valid without the shoes is rather punishing.


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