Do I have to be he one banned to make the appeal?

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Do I have to be he one banned to make the appeal?

Post by Nabski » #539942

Confused rock is being a baby in the hut.

Can I just make the appeal thread for him?
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Re: Do I have to be he one banned to make the appeal?

Post by oranges » #539963

I made an appeal for someone once.
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Post by wesoda25 » #539968

You aren’t oranges so its gonna be closed and trigger happy mods (NOT PKP BC HES A HERO) will place you on post approval
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #540070

wesoda25 wrote:You aren’t oranges so its gonna be closed and trigger happy mods (NOT PKP BC HES A HERO) will place you on post approval
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I think this would fall to the decision of a headmin, but as a general rule I'd say you need permission from the player you're appealing for, because if you for example appeal a permaban on their behalf and it gets denied then you've locked them out of the ability to appeal it again for a year.
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Post by confused rock » #540085

I don’t want a fucking appeal

Unless I don’t have to post in it
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PKPenguin321 wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:You aren’t oranges so its gonna be closed and trigger happy mods (NOT PKP BC HES A HERO) will place you on post approval
?

I think this would fall to the decision of a headmin, but as a general rule I'd say you need permission from the player you're appealing for, because if you for example appeal a permaban on their behalf and it gets denied then you've locked them out of the ability to appeal it again for a year.
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Post by Jack7D1 » #540464

You stole the appeal he cannot renew while your posts are theoretically unlimited, is it that hard to understand?
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Post by Arianya » #540930

While it's obviously up to the headmins to resolve this thread, it's worth noting the ban apppeal rules have been updated recently.
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Post by Cobby » #541124

You should add a post for this also lame and gay
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Post by deedubya » #541218

Someone posted an complaint on my behalf once, and admins threatened to close it unless I sustained the complaint. Doubly odd, because complaints are generally in reference to an admin's conduct, rather than a personal appeal.
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Post by peoplearestrange » #541299

Im not sure about complaints, as that is still action being taken against an admin rather than specifically around just one player.

As for Ban Appeals, both Plap and Hulka have said that ban appeals shouldn't be made by anyone other than the person effected. Hopefully one of them can "officially" confirm this here.

It also kinda makes sense as otherwise it starts to go down the weird lawyer representation path of "getting someone who write good/can argue well" and it blurs the line between the peanut of personal opinion. And mostly if you weren't directly involved how can you recall the events from your perspective?
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Post by deedubya » #541308

peoplearestrange wrote:Im not sure about complaints, as that is still action being taken against an admin rather than specifically around just one player.

As for Ban Appeals, both Plap and Hulka have said that ban appeals shouldn't be made by anyone other than the person effected. Hopefully one of them can "officially" confirm this here.

It also kinda makes sense as otherwise it starts to go down the weird lawyer representation path of "getting someone who write good/can argue well" and it blurs the line between the peanut of personal opinion. And mostly if you weren't directly involved how can you recall the events from your perspective?
The entire reason the furfag amendment exists is to allow players with more experience with the rules to point out specific rules, precedents, and inconsistencies in an appeal from either side. Going down that same logic trail, would it not make sense to have someone lodge an appeal or complaint on your behalf, as long as it remains objective and factual throughout?
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Re: Do I have to be he one banned to make the appeal?

Post by Cobby » #541339

I would be okay with no behalf posting if a bans existence didn’t also double as precedent for future bans.

If I don’t want something to become precedent I shouldn’t have to take the ban just so I can dispute it through the correct channels. It could be discussed in pd but that also gets bogged down with “we’ve enforced it like this” instead of arguing the policy on its merits.

The other alternative is complaints which have an accusatory nature to them when I just disagree with the ruling and not the conduct.

I can also just ask headmins/admin in my magic tower but that seems less transparent than it ought to be.

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