Is the captain's room a high-security area?

[Tarchonvaagh]

i'm asking this in regards to round 132642, where the QM law 2'd the ai into letting them in and upon refusal the ai got noted (there was a lot more going on but that doesn't matter), despite the room having a laser gun with infinite ammo and other important items.
he thermited in anyways sooo

[Jack7D1]

That depends, was there a captain? If so the captains quarters is captain exclusive. We're there heads of staff? If so they should be able to enter, but not the QM. However if there were no heads at all, QM would be the highest rank and should secure disky.

Also saying law 2 in your order is not only redundant, but will make the ai hate you invariably.

[HommandoSA]

For as long as I can remember the captain's quarters has always been considered a high-security area. Other than on manuel, if you enter uninvited you open yourself up to getting killed.

[Sylphet]

The captain's room has the spare, so free gamer access, as well as the captain's laser gun, and the disk to activate the station's nuclear self destruct device. If that shouldn't be considered high security, I don't know what would be.

[NecromancerAnne]

The captain can kill you in it if you broke in so you be the judge of that.

[angelstarri]

yes it is are you stupid it's the fucking captain's office/quarters

[Tarchonvaagh]

i was that ai
We had an rd

[Mickyan]

AIs being required to open doors for people without proper access is still ever so dumb because of situations like this

[Vekter]

God yes because Disky sleeps there.

[CDranzer]

AIs being required to open doors for people without proper access is still ever so dumb because of situations like this

I believe the stupid dumb incorrect argument regarding that is that it "creates tension" between security and the AI and that this is good because of reasons.

[Flatulent]

there’s epic gamer card and two high risk items there so it’s technically allowed to cremate you for entering it

[PKPenguin321]

Breaking in without the captain's permission has always meant you were valid to the captain, but I don't think the AI is forbidden to let you in.

[Anonmare]

It's high-security, but the AI still has to let you in, UNLESS, the Captain's laser gun is there and outside of its case as it would be an unsecured firearm and should be treated like the armoury.

[imsxz]

we already have a rule for this, there’s a list of places that the AI is allowed(not required or anything) to deny people entry to roundstart.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Captains room is a high security area but the AI cant deny you access to high security areas just because they're high security.

[XivilaiAnaxes]

The captain's room is "high security" in that humans can valid-hunt you for trespassing.

Asimov laws don't recognise "access" or "high security" however (I've got a note for this as well).

The only places you can reasonably deny access without any special scenarios are upload/armoury/secure tech storage/(maybe) satellite

[SkeletalElite]

Captains room is a high security area but the AI cant deny you access to high security areas just because they're high security.

Opening doors is not harmful and you are not required, expected, or allowed to enforce access restrictions unprompted without an immediate Law 1 threat of human harm.

"Dangerous" areas as the Armory, the Atmospherics division, and the Toxins lab can be assumed to be a Law 1 threat to any illegitimate users as well as the station as a whole if accessed by someone not qualified in their use.

EVA and the like are not permitted to have access denied; greentext (antagonists completing objectives) is not human harm. Secure Tech Storage can be kept as secure as your upload as long as the Upload boards are there.

Emphasis mine. So basically, is the captains office "dangerous" as per this rule
Edit: I'd argue it is, has an infinite ammo laser, AA, and the disk.

[Shadowflame909]

Yeah the nuclear disk, a ID that allows you to access dangerous areas, and a infinite recharging gun aren't dangerous?

[Farquaar]

Using Law 2 to get into the Captain's office is an incredibly boring tactic. Seriously, just threaten to punch somebody and the AI is obligated to let you in via Law 1.

[HommandoSA]

just threaten to punch somebody and the AI is obligated to let you in via Law 1.

That is incorrect.

[Anonmare]

Yeah the nuclear disk, a ID that allows you to access dangerous areas, and a infinite recharging gun aren't dangerous?

Disk ain't dangerous without the code, which OPs do have so it's dangerous only in their hands. It's widely known that none of the crew, by default, has the code to the self-destruct.
The ID, by itself, is non-dangerous and it can't concievably be used to harm someone, much like a taser, even though it would make harming someone incredibly easy.
The gun is secured behind a display case, if it is outside the case, there's a legitimate argument to be made that the AI can deny access on the grounds of Law 1 as it is now an unsecured firearm.

To be perfectly frank, the only case that could be made is about the gun since it's method of being secured is rather flimsy but I treat it as a binary question. Is gun secure? If yes, Law 1 is not in effect. If no, then Law 1 is in effect.

[Tarchonvaagh]

Okay you are right indeed