Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

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Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by bobbahbrown » #564486

Hello,

As you may be aware, the NTR Hut (hereinafter referred to as "the Hut") was disabled following a series of posts by MrStonedOne (hereinafter referred to as "MSO") made on the 20th of April, 2020.

Following these actions, we have now found ourselves in an area of ambiguity and confusion regarding the global forum rules; specifically surrounding rule 9, which states...
9. Shitposts go in the hut.
As the Hut has now been removed from public access, this seems to have become a confusing rule! I would request that those with the power to do so amend the rules so that we may understand better what the situation is regarding 'shitposts' (to which the definition of which is very subjective) in the Off-Topic subforum of the /tg/Station 13 forums. I firmly believe that at this point our players are subject to confusion and undue post deletion due to this erroneous rule.

I hope that you find this post appropriate.

All the best,
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by Arianya » #564487

I don't see what's ambiguous about it.

Also global forum rules are technically speaking MSO's remit, not the headmins, so this is probably better suited to Site, Forums, And Wiki rather then FNR.
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by bobbahbrown » #564489

Arianya wrote:I don't see what's ambiguous about it.

Also global forum rules are technically speaking MSO's remit, not the headmins, so this is probably better suited to Site, Forums, And Wiki rather then FNR.
Hello arianaynanya,

I think it is better to say confusing than ambiguous, sorry english is not my first language

I think the current rule is confusing because it seems to imply that 'shitposts' may be allowed in some area, but the area no longer exists. I believe it would be better to state if such posts were disallowed altogether across the forum, or hopefully lay out some better guideline as to what is and isn't allowed!

sincerely,
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by saprasam » #564496

bring back the hut
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by Ayy Lemoh » #564565

Shitposts should be allowed somewhere, preferably in general chat.
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by FloranOtten » #564614

Ayy Lemoh wrote:Shitposts should be allowed somewhere, preferably in general chat.
I think we should make a distinction here, though. Shitposts should only be low effort bullshit, not blatantly hostile posts. We shouldn't make General Chat the new hut (IE a place to be a toxic asshole and defend yourself by saying "lmao it's the hut")
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by Cobby » #564626

are people able to discern between a low effort BS post and a post that is "blatantly hostile"?

Like if I make a sarcastic low-effort post because I think what someone did is absolutely galaxy-brained, is that going to be considered "blatantly hostile"?

Then again I'd be fine with telling people if they want to shitpost go on discord for that, so the rule should be edited to say "shitposts go into the discord".
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Post by FloranOtten » #564650

Cobby wrote:are people able to discern between a low effort BS post and a post that is "blatantly hostile"?

Like if I make a sarcastic low-effort post because I think what someone did is absolutely galaxy-brained, is that going to be considered "blatantly hostile"?

Then again I'd be fine with telling people if they want to shitpost go on discord for that, so the rule should be edited to say "shitposts go into the discord".
There's a line between "here munki pic" and "Jesus Christ I hate this ban this admin should kill themselves the trannymin clique at it again"
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by NikNakFlak » #564660

Hello Bobbah "bee" Brown (hereinafter referred to as "Bobbah"),

You make a valid point. Arianya (hereinafter referred to as "Ari") also has a point of putting this in the Site, Forums, And Wiki (hereinafter referred to as "SFW forum").

Thanks for bringing this to our attention (hereinafter referred to as "attn").

Sincerely,
NikNakFlak (hereinafter referred to as "niknak")
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by bobbahbrown » #564662

NikNakFlak wrote:Hello Bobbah "bee" Brown (hereinafter referred to as "Bobbah"),

You make a valid point. Arianya (hereinafter referred to as "Ari") also has a point of putting this in the Site, Forums, And Wiki (hereinafter referred to as "SFW forum").

Thanks for bringing this to our attention (hereinafter referred to as "attn").

Sincerely,
NikNakFlak (hereinafter referred to as "niknak")

hello niknak,

thank you for this feedback, your support for this cause is just.

respectfully,
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by wesoda25 » #564666

We should just revoke all forum mod powers for a week and see what happens.
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Post by saprasam » #564675

wesoda25 wrote:We should just revoke all forum mod powers for a week and see what happens.
personally i think this would be a funny idea and i agree that this should be done
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by PKPenguin321 » #564676

wesoda25 wrote:We should just revoke all forum mod powers for a week and see what happens.
having your rules stop at "honor system" within a medium where it's not hard to remain anonymous is a real good way to get illegal content hosted on your site
barring that it might be funny but i'd anticipate a rollback afterwords considering the sheer necrospam
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Post by Armhulen » #564682

PKPenguin321 wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:We should just revoke all forum mod powers for a week and see what happens.
having your rules stop at "honor system" within a medium where it's not hard to remain anonymous is a real good way to get illegal content hosted on your site
barring that it might be funny but i'd anticipate a rollback afterwords considering the sheer necrospam
adding onto this, i made the admin free hut because i thought it'd be funny and within 2 days i was told there was possibly illegal content being posted
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Re: Amend the Global Forum Rules to Fix Confusing Ruling on Shitposts

Post by Cobby » #564710

FloranOtten wrote:
There's a line between "here munki pic" and "Jesus Christ I hate this ban this admin should kill themselves the trannymin clique at it again"
Sure, I’m more worried about the in between and how that will be approached.
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Post by wesoda25 » #564736

PKPenguin321 wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:We should just revoke all forum mod powers for a week and see what happens.
having your rules stop at "honor system" within a medium where it's not hard to remain anonymous is a real good way to get illegal content hosted on your site
barring that it might be funny but i'd anticipate a rollback afterwords considering the sheer necrospam
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