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make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:41 am #572404

Please turn off rainbow assistants. I think it's honestly nice to switch every couple years to break up the monotony of assistant colors but I do really miss that classic grey wave of griefing. It'll be refreshing!

I really have no other argument than that. It's up to you, head admins! Meet me (and my based boys in grey) halfway!
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby YuiY1997 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:42 am #572405

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Laz0rgrunt » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:50 am #572407

There is a certain mental effect the grey suit has on the assistant players. Grey man see other gray man being arrested? He is part of my clan, me protect. Detective lethal grey man fellow grey friend? BUNGA! The greyshirt solidarity is the best thing about the job. RPig nerds and unrobust security members quake at the sight of the sheer, raw, tostesterone reeking sight of the greytide working as one unit, as a hivemind, one in purpose: to tide stationeide.

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:00 am #572409

And now, some classic space station art that captures the feel of what we lost that fateful day years ago

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby MetalSpirits » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:23 am #572411

Made an account just to say that i support bringing back the classic greys, plus we already have tons of lockers on every single map in rotation with different colored jumpsuits. Reject modernity, embrace tradition. :unknownman:

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby cacogen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:49 am #572415

Paprika was retarded for thinking jumpsuit colour had anything to do with greytiding. That said, I like both grey jumpsuits and coloured ones.

Would be great if anyone had ever even considered thinking of a way to incentivise assistants to assist or players to ask for their help
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby wesoda25 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:07 am #572417

lets do it

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:16 am #572418

cacogen wrote:Paprika was retarded for thinking jumpsuit colour had anything to do with greytiding. That said, I like both grey jumpsuits and coloured ones.

Would be great if anyone had ever even considered thinking of a way to incentivise assistants to assist or players to ask for their help

I'm with you on this, I just think it'd be nice to switch since we've had the rainbow for awhile now. I wanted to switch to rainbow way back when because we had grey for a long time
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby terranaut » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:29 am #572420

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Tarchonvaagh » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:26 am #572437

Armhulen wrote:And now, some classic space station art that captures the feel of what we lost that fateful day years ago

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Is there a way to find some old Korslime art on normal resolutions? I just love his artstyle ahh
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:41 am #572440

Tarchonvaagh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:snip

Is there a way to find some old Korslime art on normal resolutions? I just love his artstyle ahh

https://spessmenart.tumblr.com/archive also it's not him making it, it was his gf
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Tarchonvaagh » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 am #572441

Armhulen wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:
Armhulen wrote:snip

Is there a way to find some old Korslime art on normal resolutions? I just love his artstyle ahh

https://spessmenart.tumblr.com/archive also it's not him making it, it was his gf

Thanks, I love it either way
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby cacogen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 am #572442

i was thinking and this is meant to stimulate discussion not be the Final Solution on jumpsuits but something like new assistants spawn grey while the originals spawn multicoloured or vice versa. best of both worlds. might come in handy for differentiating them in a superficial easily fooled way for whatever foreseeable reason. but this isn't the idea this is a potential precursor for the actual idea
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby saprasam » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:16 pm #572723

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby trollbreeder » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:52 pm #572728

What if we let you choose your assistant color with an RGB color picker
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Denton » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:29 pm #572729

>spare spawns in a locker
>assistants without grey jumpsuits
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Vekter » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:47 am #572744

It's better this way because I can better tell who's a shitter based on who goes out of their way to get a grey jumpsuit.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Gamarr » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:44 pm #572756

You want grey back then offer up assistant maintenance access to them in exchange.

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Tarchonvaagh » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:07 pm #572757

Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Gamarr » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:51 pm #572760

Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby cacogen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:53 pm #572765

Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.

The Jews have done this like twice already and each time it was reverted
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:59 pm #572767

Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.

SO THEN WAIT UNTIL IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS

also headmins said they won't do it this term (not in the thread, just in discord)
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Vekter » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:20 pm #572775

Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.


It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:35 pm #572777

Armhulen wrote:
Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.

SO THEN WAIT UNTIL IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS

also headmins said they won't do it this term (not in the thread, just in discord)

I can't even emphasize how mad I am that this guy is asking for this policy discussion to be some kind of wack ass BARTER like give me this for that when the thing he wants wasn't even done like what the f
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby vkalls » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:34 pm #572793

Maybe the option to let Assistants pick their jumpsuit color :surprised: ? But that would need c*de so maybe not.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Gamarr » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:49 pm #572802

Armhulen wrote:
Armhulen wrote:I can't even emphasize how mad I am that this guy is asking for this policy discussion to be some kind of wack ass BARTER like give me this for that when the thing he wants wasn't even done like what the f


'Offer up maint access in exchange for return of your greyback meme' means that they still have maint access to lose, so not my fault you continue to misunderstand.

Being grey was removed because no argument is made in good faith about why they need to all be grey. Much like why they need maint-access. But head admins are weak babies and apparently we need Oranges to fix things. Stop being so petulant.

Edit: I figured I should explain the likely logic about grey removal, too, since it seems to need to be said. The job is useless, the players who do it generally enjoy being able to shit up the round, and being able to blend into a giant grey blob did not help this mindset. So it was removed, and it was a good change that should remain.

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:43 am #572804

Gamarr wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Armhulen wrote:I can't even emphasize how mad I am that this guy is asking for this policy discussion to be some kind of wack ass BARTER like give me this for that when the thing he wants wasn't even done like what the f


'Offer up maint access in exchange for return of your greyback meme' means that they still have maint access to lose, so not my fault you continue to misunderstand.

Being grey was removed because no argument is made in good faith about why they need to all be grey. Much like why they need maint-access. But head admins are weak babies and apparently we need Oranges to fix things. Stop being so petulant.

Edit: I figured I should explain the likely logic about grey removal, too, since it seems to need to be said. The job is useless, the players who do it generally enjoy being able to shit up the round, and being able to blend into a giant grey blob did not help this mindset. So it was removed, and it was a good change that should remain.

half the servers would tell you that the colored jumpsuits aren't doing anything to stop greytide, and this is purely admin mindset that allows for it to happen as it always have been
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby wesoda25 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:06 am #572806

Wasn't the reason nerv enabled gaytide for detective and shit? Idk if tiding concerns were even mentioned.

Regardless, I think a nice middle-ground would be switching between them every year or so. That way they each stay relatively fresh.

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Vekter » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:43 am #572815

wesoda25 wrote:Wasn't the reason nerv enabled gaytide for detective and shit? Idk if tiding concerns were even mentioned.

Regardless, I think a nice middle-ground would be switching between them every year or so. That way they each stay relatively fresh.


It was like half that and half tiding
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:13 am #572816

Vekter wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:Wasn't the reason nerv enabled gaytide for detective and shit? Idk if tiding concerns were even mentioned.

Regardless, I think a nice middle-ground would be switching between them every year or so. That way they each stay relatively fresh.


It was like half that and half tiding

again some servers are like "absolute state of" levels right now of greytiding, it's 100% admin enforcement that is a problem if you think it's a problem. If someone wants to greytide and they are allowed to, they will. Simple as!
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Flatulent » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:07 am #572826

Vekter wrote:
Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.


It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.

no it would greatly incentivise you and other shitmins to mass ban people not playing the game in the way you like it played
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 am #572828

Flatulent wrote:
Vekter wrote:
Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.


It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.

no it would greatly incentivise you and other shitmins to mass ban people not playing the game in the way you like it played

and here is the flatulent post of the thread
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby cacogen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:40 am #572830

Flatulent wrote:
Vekter wrote:
Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.


It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.

no it would greatly incentivise you and other shitmins to mass ban people not playing the game in the way you like it played

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby terranaut » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:23 pm #572843

Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.

maint should be travelled so maint bases from team antags aren't invincible and unfindable
antags on jobs that dont have maint access should have the ability to kill an assistant for their ID
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby terranaut » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:24 pm #572844

Armhulen wrote:
Flatulent wrote:
Vekter wrote:
Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.


It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.

no it would greatly incentivise you and other shitmins to mass ban people not playing the game in the way you like it played

and here is the flatulent post of the thread

hes not wrong
whats wrong with people just dicking around instead of playing a "real" job? what if they wanna dick around? this is a videogame. hello?
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Vekter » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:24 pm #572847

terranaut wrote:
Armhulen wrote:and here is the flatulent post of the thread

hes not wrong
whats wrong with people just dicking around instead of playing a "real" job? what if they wanna dick around? this is a videogame. hello?


There's a big difference than dicking around and greytiding. Also, you're playing a role playing game. LRP does not mean no RP, no matter how much Basil and Sybil wish it did.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby wesoda25 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:58 pm #572848

How exactly will disabling maintenance access discourage tiding? Seems to me that without the distraction of maint, tiding will be one of the only things assistants have left. Furthermore, what the fuck does that have to do with making assistants grey again?

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Agux909 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:20 pm #572851

Can you guys take your assistant maint access discussion to the correct thread? You know, since there's actually one

My opinion on the grey-suits only is make a poll and see whats more popular. I personally don't care but let the people who cares vote on it and there you have it.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby TWATICUS » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:43 pm #572855

Denton wrote:>spare spawns in a locker
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why even LIVE


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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:05 pm #572863

terranaut wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Flatulent wrote:
Vekter wrote:
Gamarr wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Oh they removed assistant maint access? Neat


I don't think so quite yet but given the other thread, and continued inability to provide reasons for them having it, it might actually happen again.


It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.

no it would greatly incentivise you and other shitmins to mass ban people not playing the game in the way you like it played

and here is the flatulent post of the thread

hes not wrong
whats wrong with people just dicking around instead of playing a "real" job? what if they wanna dick around? this is a videogame. hello?

he is though because the issue is when it's the only thing the player does every single round, breaking into cap's office to start fights, get to crit and attack people, or become the strongest entity on the station and hand out all access to everyone else, throwing the entire round into a bender for people who just want to play...
it's just a cycle of self antagging. and admins rarely step in

wesoda25 wrote:How exactly will disabling maintenance access discourage tiding? Seems to me that without the distraction of maint, tiding will be one of the only things assistants have left. Furthermore, what the fuck does that have to do with making assistants grey again?

they're bringing an entirely different policy thread into this one
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby terranaut » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:52 pm #572865

Vekter wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Armhulen wrote:and here is the flatulent post of the thread

hes not wrong
whats wrong with people just dicking around instead of playing a "real" job? what if they wanna dick around? this is a videogame. hello?


There's a big difference than dicking around and greytiding. Also, you're playing a role playing game. LRP does not mean no RP, no matter how much Basil and Sybil wish it did.

LRP pretty much only means not breaking immersion, ie. not referring to the game as a game, talking about real life stuff unfiltered, etc.
You're thinking of MRP, which is what Manuel and Campbell are for
Not that I'm at all against anybody roleplaying more than they need to but if an assistant just wants to run through maint with a spear and patrol, why are you opposed to it? Live and let live.

And if it's somebody who breaks into caps literally every round to always start shit and steal the spare like arm says then maybe step in and ban him? Why do players need to lose freedom of expression in their playstyle because jannies aren't cleaning up? Pathetic.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Armhulen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:14 pm #572869

The goal of removing maint access isn't to stop people from greytiding, it is to make assistant not a better job to antagonize as than other real jobs in the station people should be playing

DAMMIT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER THREAD AGAIN BUT LET ME TIE IT BACK INTO THIS POLICY THREAD:

I don't think grey jumpsuits will change greytiding just like how maint access won't. I just think it would be refreshing.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Flatulent » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:59 pm #572889

Armhulen wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Flatulent wrote:
Vekter wrote:
It would greatly incentivize people to play an actual fucking job and not just dick off all round fucking with people.

no it would greatly incentivise you and other shitmins to mass ban people not playing the game in the way you like it played

and here is the flatulent post of the thread

hes not wrong
whats wrong with people just dicking around instead of playing a "real" job? what if they wanna dick around? this is a videogame. hello?

he is though because the issue is when it's the only thing the player does every single round, breaking into cap's office to start fights, get to crit and attack people, or become the strongest entity on the station and hand out all access to everyone else, throwing the entire round into a bender for people who just want to play...
it's just a cycle of self antagging. and admins rarely step in

where did you find support for tiding caps office every round in my comment may i ask?

Vekter wrote:There's a big difference than dicking around and greytiding. Also, you're playing a role playing game. LRP does not mean no RP, no matter how much Basil and Sybil wish it did.

its a fucking ss13 server not burgundian wine you dipshit
had these servers been norp i'd be able to run around and yell reddit ic whenever i see your name(or any of the more colorful "guests" from manuel) in adminwho but word filter doesnt let me do that unfortunately
rp is clearly enforced but not in the way you(a manuel player) want
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Not-Dorsidarf » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:25 am #573028

People have gotten way shittier on the regular servers than they were before manuel, i said this would happen.




Also assistants can be a little grey as a treat.
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby oranges » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:39 am #573784

Denton wrote:>spare spawns in a locker
>assistants without grey jumpsuits
>the new toolbox sprite
why even LIVE


You've got ten seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties.

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Stickymayhem » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:01 pm #573856

imagine not knowing the new spare tide method you people dont deserve to tide
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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby wesoda25 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:07 am #573861

Stickymayhem wrote:imagine not knowing the new spare tide method you people dont deserve to tide

Welder wrench spear?

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Re: make assistants grey-t again

Postby Coconutwarrior97 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:37 am #576939

It is done.

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