DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

[Sparkezel]

So looking at DADG policy discussion I saw that it was denied the murderbone license because hijack objective already allowed for that, however even then hijack got reworked and now it doesnt allow murderbone too, should DADG allow full on murderbone again?

[Eskjjlj]

[MANUEL] or [MRP] in the title please

[pugie]

but its campbell

[RaveRadbury]

By DADG do you mean Die A Glorious Death? DAGD?

[Sparkezel]

Yeah I meant Die a Glorious Death, sorry for the typo.

[Tlaltecuhtli]

no, if traitor blows up and destroys bar the rp is ruined

[Screemonster]

no, if traitor blows up and destroys bar the rp is ruined

suicide bombing isn't murderbone, murderbone is defined as systematically eliminating people from the round for an extended period and actively seeking out more victims once you're done with the last one, a single random act of extreme violence doesn't count

[wesoda25]

Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.

From the murderboning rules.

[Screemonster]

Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.

From the murderboning rules.

well that's just dumb as hell when the fuck was that added

[Cobby]

Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.

From the murderboning rules.

well that's just dumb as hell when the fuck was that added

It does sound extremely dumb if that was the only part of the rule.

If you have the DADG objective and you bomb It would not be considered murderboning. Systematically offing people because you have DADG still sounds incredibly dumb, which is what murderboning is.

Please use a different word than murderboning if you want to say "killing a bunch of people", because its sepecifically the "for no reason but im antag" portion that turns a very chaotic event into murderboning. Consequently, you can “murderbone” even if you kill a single individual. The number has no relevance to what is the rule-sanctioned definition of murderboning, but rather the intent behind the kill.

[XivilaiAnaxes]

Suicide bombing isn't "without justification" if you have DAGD.

[vkalls]

Personally, I think this should be a decision where you ahelp your interesting take on DAGD. If it involves killing a few innocents that will be up to the admins online at the time to decide, but in most cases it should be acceptable because antags are already allowed to kill people with flimsy justification.

[Misdoubtful]

Some people are meming about things but:

Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.

From the murderboning rules.

Suicide bombing isn't "without justification" if you have DAGD.

Bingo. You have a reason, dying. It doesn't have to be interesting or funny, but it can be. Justification can come in a lot of ways, and it doesn't have to mean that someone has to be your target to be able to bonk them either. It just means have a reason. Even if its, he had access I wanted to do X so I could make my death happen at Y. Its not really intended as a 'round can't have action' sort of thing.

In that sense though, full murderbone wouldn't really work, right?

Unless there is say, confusion about what justification would be?

[Coconutwarrior97]

DADG is not a pass to murderbone. It acts as a reasonable justification for causing a lot of chaos, but the main point is that it should end in your death. Delaminating the supermatter and preventing people from fixing it as you wait for it to explode and take you and engineering with it.
Detonating a bomb in medbay where you explode. Make a good faith effort to put yourself into a situation where your death is amongst the end goals. Silently going around the station killing people off does not further your objective.
Taking a dsword and rushing into a staffed brig screaming is most definitely a good faith attempt.

This policy was made thanks to discussion in policy bus.

Headmin Votes:
Coconutwarrior97: Yes, once again generally acting in good faith in regards to your objectives means you're fine.
Naloac: Yes.
Jimmius: Yes.