give officers maint access back

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give officers maint access back

Post by toemas » #641634

Bottom post of the previous page:

its been in the game for a bit just to try it out, and i think its been here long enough. having to go ask the hop for maints access whenever theres a cult or something is just pointless tedium. it does not enhance or improve my enjoyment of the game.
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Re: give officers maint access back

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sinfulbliss wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:15 pm
RaveRadbury wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:56 am Sec's job isn't to patrol maint for antags
Sec's job is to stop crime. Antags are there to do crime. Maint is the best place to do crime. Therefore sec should have maint access.
Most crime actually happens in departments. You know, where all the stuff everyone, most antags included wants is? The only thing that happens in maint is engineer autism projects and antag bases.
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Re: give officers maint access back

Post by sinfulbliss » #645041

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:32 am
sinfulbliss wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:15 pm
RaveRadbury wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:56 am Sec's job isn't to patrol maint for antags
Sec's job is to stop crime. Antags are there to do crime. Maint is the best place to do crime. Therefore sec should have maint access.
Most crime actually happens in departments. You know, where all the stuff everyone, most antags included wants is? The only thing that happens in maint is engineer autism projects and antag bases.
With prog tot, objectives are in departments yes. The crime of stealing the objectives are in departments. Do you think the antagonists sit in the departments after doing them to wait for security to get them? They are gone through maintenance after doing what they have to do.

Murders lead to maintenance, bodies are in maintenance, crime scenes lead to maintenance, and antagonists that have just done the crime lead to maintenance. Sec’s job is to catch the bad people that did the crime, and usually that isn’t going to be as they do it. That’s why the whole yknow, detective job and forensics exists. Because they’re not there when it happens.
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Re: give officers maint access back

Post by Rageguy505 » #645109

sinfulbliss wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:20 pm
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:32 am
sinfulbliss wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:15 pm
RaveRadbury wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:56 am Sec's job isn't to patrol maint for antags
Sec's job is to stop crime. Antags are there to do crime. Maint is the best place to do crime. Therefore sec should have maint access.
Most crime actually happens in departments. You know, where all the stuff everyone, most antags included wants is? The only thing that happens in maint is engineer autism projects and antag bases.
With prog tot, objectives are in departments yes. The crime of stealing the objectives are in departments. Do you think the antagonists sit in the departments after doing them to wait for security to get them? They are gone through maintenance after doing what they have to do.

Murders lead to maintenance, bodies are in maintenance, crime scenes lead to maintenance, and antagonists that have just done the crime lead to maintenance. Sec’s job is to catch the bad people that did the crime, and usually that isn’t going to be as they do it. That’s why the whole yknow, detective job and forensics exists. Because they’re not there when it happens.
finding dead people in maint is the paramedics job though
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Re: give officers maint access back

Post by sinfulbliss » #645110

Rageguy505 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:39 pm finding dead people in maint is the paramedics job though
Bringing the dead people to get revived is the paramedic's job. Investigating the murder and stopping the person who's creating the bodies in maint is sec's job
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Re: give officers maint access back

Post by Rageguy505 » #645112

sinfulbliss wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:47 pm
Rageguy505 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:39 pm finding dead people in maint is the paramedics job though
Bringing the dead people to get revived is the paramedic's job. Investigating the murder and stopping the person who's creating the bodies in maint is sec's job
yeah and the detective has maint access
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Re: give officers maint access back

Post by HeyHey » #645126

Keeping sec out of maints is great for giving antags more breathing room to escape. Plus Det now has more purpose as the only non head of staff with full maint.
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Re: give officers maint access back

Post by Timberpoes » #645560

Now it is time for the policy thread to go sleepiebyes, so you may all learn the terrible truth.

We have also kept this a secret from you all: MSO secretly turned this back on at some point, then didn't say anything on purpose.
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