[MRP] Allow malf AI's that buy the borg factory the same freedom of a self destructing AI

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[MRP] Allow malf AI's that buy the borg factory the same freedom of a self destructing AI

Post by EmpressMaia » #653978

There's no current ruling on whether AI's are allowed to plasma flood after placing a borg factory, I'd argue they should be able to because it's a large investment of points similar to the self destruct module. And is usually bought with the goal of turning the entire station into borgs. Thoughts?
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Re: Allow malf AI's that buy the borg factory the same freedom of a self destructing AI

Post by CPTANT » #653979

Please tag threads that are MRP only as such because this question makes no sense otherwise.
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Re: Allow malf AI's that buy the borg factory the same freedom of a self destructing AI

Post by EmpressMaia » #653980

Fuck your right
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Post by Drag » #653986

No. When you place down a borging machine you have the intent to capture people alive. A plasma flood is very much counter intuitive. Having crew alive is a requirement or they cannot be borged. You absolutely can trick people into a n20 flooded room though.

Imo current system works fine.
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Post by DaydreamIQ » #653987

It costs a ton of points but I don't think there's anything stopping an AI from buying both Borger and Delta? At least not from what I could see on the wiki (Its been far too long since I last got malf). If you're really wanting to have both well, just save up. Go delta, THEN do your funny flood. Or just use hostile lockdown, more people tend to shock themselves on the doors than actually wait it out anyways.
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Post by SkeletalElite » #654003

Drag wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:42 pm No. When you place down a borging machine you have the intent to capture people alive. A plasma flood is very much counter intuitive. Having crew alive is a requirement or they cannot be borged. You absolutely can trick people into a n20 flooded room though.

Imo current system works fine.
Can't you put corpses through the borg machine?
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #654004

SkeletalElite wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:15 am
Drag wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:42 pm No. When you place down a borging machine you have the intent to capture people alive. A plasma flood is very much counter intuitive. Having crew alive is a requirement or they cannot be borged. You absolutely can trick people into a n20 flooded room though.

Imo current system works fine.
Can't you put corpses through the borg machine?
Nope. they have to be alive. Doesnt go through if its dead.
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Post by Timberpoes » #654034

This is in the hands of the current term to tweak to perfection since my term never actually implemented it (we voted yes, but I was too perfectionist and delayed despite that since I didn't like the mass sabotage part's wording), viewtopic.php?f=33&t=31528 would potentially solve this.

One of the propositions I had was unrestricting malf AI. Melbert supported this with the caveat the Malf AI was turned into midround only. It's of course up to the current term how they'd approach it, but it would eliminate this problem by just making malf actually dangerous.
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Post by EmpressMaia » #654036

Personally I think malf AI should be completely unrestrained
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Post by Pandarsenic » #654045

Let malf AI say fuck
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Post by Jackraxxus » #655192

EmpressMaia wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:50 pm Personally I think malf AI should be completely unrestrained
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Jackraxxus wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:36 am
EmpressMaia wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:50 pm Personally I think malf AI should be completely unrestrained
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Post by spookuni » #657306

Given the potential for both cool stories stemming from malfunctioning AIs, and their extreme capacity for destruction, we've decided to test implementation of Melbert and Timber's old proposal to shift Malfunctioning AIs away from being a roundstart/midround restricted antagonist. Going forward (after the implementation of the dynamic config changes to enable this), Malfunctioning AIs will be fully unrestricted antagonists on MRP, but will set to only occur as a midround dynamic ruleset
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