Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

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Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by NamelessFairy » #667602

Very simply I don't see a reason why singulo control is disabled in cofig anymore as our standards for admins have improved. Any admin who possesses a singulo will either have a good reason for it or wont be an admin much longer.
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Striders13 » #667603

I thought this was an old meme that's no longer relevant, what the hell.
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

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Did you try to possess the singulo and kill all the players? Dumbledore asked calmly.
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by BeeSting12 » #667620

I'm almost certain there's a hacky way to get around singulo posession restriction anyway, possibly buildmode throw or something? If an admin wants to abuse their powers, this is possibly the most obvious way to go about it.
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Pandarsenic » #667623

BeeSting12 wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:37 pm I'm almost certain there's a hacky way to get around singulo posession restriction anyway, possibly buildmode throw or something? If an admin wants to abuse their powers, this is possibly the most obvious way to go about it.
There is, and this is it, though unlike Singulo possession you can't use it to prevent catastrophe, only cause it.
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Timberpoes » #667624

There are thousands of ways to ruin shifts.

Spookuni once accidentally mass var edited the air contents of every single container on the station to the point every machine and canister on the station exploded. This was the explosion map for the shift:
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I'd say that's about as much damage as any singulo could do.

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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by CMDR_Gungnir » #667630

Timberpoes wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:07 pm There are thousands of ways to ruin shifts.

Spookuni once accidentally mass var edited the air contents of every single container on the station to the point every machine and canister on the station exploded. This was the explosion map for the shift:
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I'd say that's about as much damage as any singulo could do.

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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Armhulen » #667635

CONTROVERSIAL: shouldn't be a config option in the first place
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Misdoubtful » #667652

Armhulen wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:31 pm CONTROVERSIAL: shouldn't be a config option in the first place
Yeeeeeeeeeeeep, this.

It wouldn't provide an impact at this point whether it was or wasn't forbidden at this point.

Unless there is something I'm missing?
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by WineAllWine » #667668

Yeah I've always found this to be weird; there's a million ways I could use my admin powers to ruin a shift, why is this specific one blocked?
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by MrStonedOne » #667680

It is intentional that this config is not protected from admins editing it by vving the config controller. (somebody some time long ago re-protected it. I just removed that)

Rule 0 allows admins to do so and face the consequences.

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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Vekter » #667789

I recall this being forbidden as it causes an absolutely hilarious amount of lag, not due to it having the potential to completely fuck the round.
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by Stickymayhem » #667812

in ancient history this was restricted because there was a way to possess something without logs
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Re: Disable FORBID_SINGULO_POSSESSION in config.

Post by kieth4 » #676017

As all the reasons for it being disabled are rather ancient, we'll have a look at re-enabling this.
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