ERP Only on Basil

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:20 pm #116765

This appeases both groups

Anyone that wants to ERP can go to Basil and Sybil and remain free from the fucking socially defunct awkwardness of ERP.

cyfause · Post by **cyfause** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:30 pm #116767

Roleplay, even erotic roleplay, is a crucial part of this community. Although some people may not understand that "majority" can't particularly be defined (at the moment), it still drives the core (members) of the community.
I'm for unbanning erp on Bagil, honestly. It's a good idea; keeps two parties happy-- though, not necessarily the admins. I'm not quite sure whether dictation of what's allowed and what isn't, is being driven by the administrative staff's personal opinions.

Though, disregarding that, I feel as if unbanning ERP on Bagil would be a good thing. Perhaps keep it banned off of Sibyl; the rounds are too hectic to have people slowing it down by non-contribution. Perhaps the non-contribution would happen regardless. I don't know, I haven't done any tests, but apparently HornyGranny has (I'd personally like to see the hard quantifiable data they've collected)

Roleplay itself can happen regardless, non-erotic. I feel roleplay is a good thing, as I previously stated in the intro to this comment. It helps immerse you into the actual world of the facility and bring a more hitting experience to you. It might be the only thing keeping this game fresh for some people. Maybe not others. But the core gameplay can only be repeated so many times before it loses its "charm" and starts becoming a bore, or a chore. Roleplay can 'spice things up', in a way; make the game into more of a story that has a continuous feeling to it, to drive people- make them want to develop, worldbuild, etcetera.

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:36 pm #116768

cyfause wrote:Roleplay, even erotic roleplay, is a crucial part of this community. Although some people may not understand that "majority" can't particularly be defined (at the moment), it still drives the core (members) of the community.
I'm for unbanning erp on Bagil, honestly. It's a good idea; keeps two parties happy-- though, not necessarily the admins. I'm not quite sure whether dictation of what's allowed and what isn't, is being driven by the administrative staff's personal opinions.

Though, disregarding that, I feel as if unbanning ERP on Bagil would be a good thing. Perhaps keep it banned off of Sibyl; the rounds are too hectic to have people slowing it down by non-contribution. Perhaps the non-contribution would happen regardless. I don't know, I haven't done any tests, but apparently HornyGranny has (I'd personally like to see the hard quantifiable data they've collected)

Roleplay itself can happen regardless, non-erotic. I feel roleplay is a good thing, as I previously stated in the intro to this comment. It helps immerse you into the actual world of the facility and bring a more hitting experience to you. It might be the only thing keeping this game fresh for some people. Maybe not others. But the core gameplay can only be repeated so many times before it loses its "charm" and starts becoming a bore, or a chore. Roleplay can 'spice things up', in a way; make the game into more of a story that has a continuous feeling to it, to drive people- make them want to develop, worldbuild, etcetera.

Roleplay is fine,

ERP Is pathetic.

Playing your character in a manner that fits the role is fine, going off every single round to fuck is not.

Unban it on basil, keep it banned on sybil.

cyfause · Post by **cyfause** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:39 pm #116771

Tornadium wrote: Roleplay is fine,

ERP Is pathetic.

Playing your character in a manner that fits the role is fine, going off every single round to fuck is not.

Unban it on basil, keep it banned on sybil.

Going off every single round to fuck is quite terrible, I do admit.
I feel it should be treated more like a real work environment. If you're going off to fuck, you know the consequences. And if you're caught, you're punished by security-- that would be more immersive, in my opinion.
Restrictions and understandings of punishments apparently didn't stop ERP, though, so it makes me wonder just how many nymphos are on this server

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:45 pm #116773

cyfause wrote:
Tornadium wrote: Roleplay is fine,

ERP Is pathetic.

Playing your character in a manner that fits the role is fine, going off every single round to fuck is not.

Unban it on basil, keep it banned on sybil.
Going off every single round to fuck is quite terrible, I do admit.
I feel it should be treated more like a real work environment. If you're going off to fuck, you know the consequences. And if you're caught, you're punished by security-- that would be more immersive, in my opinion.
Restrictions and understandings of punishments apparently didn't stop ERP, though, so it makes me wonder just how many nymphos are on this server

Quite a few, And it's the same fucking people EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:22 pm

As a basil player this is a terrible fucking idea.

Unless one or both of these two options happens.
Those who are regularly ERPing are antag banned and job banned from anything with more responsibility than botany.
Or.
Whitelist a select few people for antag every round.

Lovecraft · Post by **Lovecraft** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:49 pm #116785

We don't need rules specific to one and not the other, that's a dangerous path.

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:00 pm #116786

Lovecraft wrote:We don't need rules specific to one and not the other, that's a dangerous path.

I don't want it on Sybil, end of.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:02 pm #116787

No. Go cyber in aim children.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:04 pm #116789

We don't want it on basil either, fuck that fucking noise. This is total bullshit, it is cancer on Sybil it will be cancer on only basil. Please god no

Scones · Post by **Scones** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:08 pm #116790

Relocating the problem is not solving it

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:10 pm #116791

Also at the op all it does is ruin basil for the nonshit players there and will drive people farther away. Pls god no

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:12 pm #116792

putting erp on one server is stone cold stupid, people ALREADY perceive basil as the circlejerk, that would only deepen if you started allowing stuff on basil that doesn't fly on server 1

that being said, the poll seems to show support in unbanning ERP and i'm not sure why this was that big a problem in the first place? admins just needed to push buttons on ERPers more imo, regardless of what bluespace thinks

it was fucking funny stuff most of the time, and disgusting the rest of the time

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:13 pm #116793

Then make a server 3 ERP server.

I'm just planning for the worst incase NikNak gets elected and it gets unbanned.

Fuck ERP on sybil.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:17 pm #116794

ah yes good ol' "my way or the highway" tornadium, king rule 0 cuck himself, laying down decisions that the rest of us don't have the right to question

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:29 pm #116795

whodaloo wrote:ah yes good ol' "my way or the highway" tornadium, king rule 0 cuck himself, laying down decisions that the rest of us don't have the right to question

It's the path of least resistance.

It's better to spoil the experience of <20 than >60.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:35 pm #116796

Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:ah yes good ol' "my way or the highway" tornadium, king rule 0 cuck himself, laying down decisions that the rest of us don't have the right to question
It's the path of least resistance.

It's better to spoil the experience of <20 than >60.

i hate to be the dumbass devils advocate here but are 2 lizards fucking in dorms really ruining 60 people's rounds
like honestly, the worst part about ERP was faggots talking about who they fucked and where in OOC, if they just shut up and fucked each other in peace and quiet i'd have no problem with them

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:37 pm #116798

whodaloo wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:ah yes good ol' "my way or the highway" tornadium, king rule 0 cuck himself, laying down decisions that the rest of us don't have the right to question
It's the path of least resistance.

It's better to spoil the experience of <20 than >60.
i hate to be the dumbass devils advocate here but are 2 lizards fucking in dorms really ruining 60 people's rounds
like honestly, the worst part about ERP was faggots talking about who they fucked and where in OOC, if they just shut up and fucked each other in peace and quiet i'd have no problem with them

You have to turn off ghost ears in order to avoid it, Meaning you can't properly observe the round.

People regularly fuck off from important jobs to have this pathetic shit happen.

Yeah it's a problem for Sybil.

Throw them on a server where no one plays.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:41 pm #116799

Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:ah yes good ol' "my way or the highway" tornadium, king rule 0 cuck himself, laying down decisions that the rest of us don't have the right to question
It's the path of least resistance.

It's better to spoil the experience of <20 than >60.
i hate to be the dumbass devils advocate here but are 2 lizards fucking in dorms really ruining 60 people's rounds
like honestly, the worst part about ERP was faggots talking about who they fucked and where in OOC, if they just shut up and fucked each other in peace and quiet i'd have no problem with them
You have to turn off ghost ears in order to avoid it, Meaning you can't properly observe the round.

People regularly fuck off from important jobs to have this pathetic shit happen.

Yeah it's a problem for Sybil.

Throw them on a server where no one plays.

if you observe with ghost ears on you're a fucking wacko anyway
and people haven't fucked off from jobs that i've seen any more than they used to since the unban, and i play a lot
the worst i've seen is the chaplain fucking in the office when the cult needed to sacrifice him, but they eventually got him and won the round anyway so no big deal

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:46 pm #116800

Eat a dick tornadium server 2 doesn't want your dregs. Erp should be all or nothing, we don't want to be the fucking neckbeard cybersex quarantine zone

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:46 pm #116801

whodaloo wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:ah yes good ol' "my way or the highway" tornadium, king rule 0 cuck himself, laying down decisions that the rest of us don't have the right to question
It's the path of least resistance.

It's better to spoil the experience of <20 than >60.
i hate to be the dumbass devils advocate here but are 2 lizards fucking in dorms really ruining 60 people's rounds
like honestly, the worst part about ERP was faggots talking about who they fucked and where in OOC, if they just shut up and fucked each other in peace and quiet i'd have no problem with them
You have to turn off ghost ears in order to avoid it, Meaning you can't properly observe the round.

People regularly fuck off from important jobs to have this pathetic shit happen.

Yeah it's a problem for Sybil.

I don't want them on server 2 either Wyzack, It's more of a last resort kind of thing. The health of Sybil comes first in my eyes. I'd prefer for it to just stay permabanned.

Throw them on a server where no one plays.
if you observe with ghost ears on you're a fucking wacko anyway
and people haven't fucked off from jobs that i've seen any more than they used to since the unban, and i play a lot
the worst i've seen is the chaplain fucking in the office when the cult needed to sacrifice him, but they eventually got him and won the round anyway so no big deal

Then you've gotten lucky,

Why would you be Wacko? It's pretty easy to keep track of the round with Ghost Ears.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:00 pm #116805

Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote: if you observe with ghost ears on you're a fucking wacko anyway
and people haven't fucked off from jobs that i've seen any more than they used to since the unban, and i play a lot
the worst i've seen is the chaplain fucking in the office when the cult needed to sacrifice him, but they eventually got him and won the round anyway so no big deal
Then you've gotten lucky,

Why would you be Wacko? It's pretty easy to keep track of the round with Ghost Ears.

i'd say you're wacko because for me personally, keep ghost ears on when there are >30 people (which is sibyl, basically) makes it impossible to keep track of anything meaningful.

and i deeeeeeeeeeeeefinitely haven't just "gotten lucky" in one hundred and fifty five rounds over the past month.

Tornadium · Post by **Tornadium** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:10 pm #116808

whodaloo wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote: if you observe with ghost ears on you're a fucking wacko anyway
and people haven't fucked off from jobs that i've seen any more than they used to since the unban, and i play a lot
the worst i've seen is the chaplain fucking in the office when the cult needed to sacrifice him, but they eventually got him and won the round anyway so no big deal
Then you've gotten lucky,

Why would you be Wacko? It's pretty easy to keep track of the round with Ghost Ears.
i'd say you're wacko because for me personally, keep ghost ears on when there are >30 people (which is sibyl, basically) makes it impossible to keep track of anything meaningful.

and i deeeeeeeeeeeeefinitely haven't just "gotten lucky" in one hundred and fifty five rounds over the past month.

Well in the last two weeks I've seen Captains do it, RDs do it, CMOs are the most common.

Luckily sec seems to be immune to this plague.

I can keep track of >30 pretty easily tbh.

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:15 pm #116811

Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote:
Tornadium wrote:
whodaloo wrote: if you observe with ghost ears on you're a fucking wacko anyway
and people haven't fucked off from jobs that i've seen any more than they used to since the unban, and i play a lot
the worst i've seen is the chaplain fucking in the office when the cult needed to sacrifice him, but they eventually got him and won the round anyway so no big deal
Then you've gotten lucky,

Why would you be Wacko? It's pretty easy to keep track of the round with Ghost Ears.
i'd say you're wacko because for me personally, keep ghost ears on when there are >30 people (which is sibyl, basically) makes it impossible to keep track of anything meaningful.

and i deeeeeeeeeeeeefinitely haven't just "gotten lucky" in one hundred and fifty five rounds over the past month.
Well in the last two weeks I've seen Captains do it, RDs do it, CMOs are the most common.

Luckily sec seems to be immune to this plague.

I can keep track of >30 pretty easily tbh.

i dunno what else to say i guess we just have had entirely different experiences

i'm not gonna lie and say i've never seen the cap fuck people, but i CERTAINLY can say that i've never seen a non-cap head ERP. i'm not going to demand logs because that would be fucking stupid, but i will say that i honestly don't believe it's as big a pain as you're saying it is

iamgoofball · Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:58 pm

Scones wrote:Relocating the problem is not solving it

iamgoofball · Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:59 pm

Whitelist a select few people for antag every round.

this will never ever happen in /tg/station 13 no matter what coders or administration are involved

Post by **lumipharon** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:12 am #116828

Peopling fucking about in important roles REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING (be it going afk, erping or whatever) has always been against the rules.
Fucking ban people if they keep doing it.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:11 am #116965

Uhhh... server 2 being the fuck buddy server is what ruined it and made it as undesirable as a toxic waste dump in the first place.

This is dumb

PickleInspector · Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:32 am

sweet jesus no. also, fun fact, basil doesn't actually have much ERP. sybil was by far and large the one where people went2fuk

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:51 am #116977

basil was the first ERP metafriend group, sibyl was the second (the lizard group)

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:16 pm

I still think that the excessive erp should have been dealt with via an emoteban, so the erpers had to go and publically argue on the forums that their sexuals were not excessive.

Shadowlight213 · Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:09 am

Yah, sybil had way more erp than bagil. Relocating it is dumb. Unbanning it is dumb, because eventually we're going to end up with people saying erp is their rp and admins shouldn't intervene

I'm just planning for the worst incase NikNak gets elected and it gets unbanned.

Niknak is against erp being unbanned though.

Stan_Studnick · Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:33 am

Honestly looking back and even though I said "oh I don't care about ERP not my problem" I really would prefer it if Basil wasn't the goddamn hugbox sex zone for Sybil's retarded lizard population.

We already get enough of the "lolol imma reck on basil fuck these gay rpers" shit, we don't need sexual freaks showing up too. :l

Donk Honk · Post by **Donk Honk** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:44 am #117147

Wyzack wrote:Eat a dick tornadium server 2 doesn't want your dregs. Erp should be all or nothing, we don't want to be the fucking neckbeard cybersex quarantine zone

Fucking this.

Shit or get off the pot tg. Just make up your mind already on the subject.

Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:02 pm

iamgoofball wrote:
Whitelist a select few people for antag every round.
this will never ever happen in /tg/station 13 no matter what coders or administration are involved

Now I know that sometimes the subtleties of social nuance escape your "different but still special" perception of the world can sometimes let slip past your understanding but that was what you might call a "Sarcastic" proposal, not one to get yourself all worked up about bae.

duncathan · Post by **duncathan** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:59 pm #117180

now to be fair there's virtually no indication of sarcasm there man

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:13 pm #117430

Because it's the internet.
You're fucking dumb if you think you can put any semblance of sarcasm into a sentence on the internet. Sarcasm is about tone of voice and over exaggeration, neither of which fit the criteria of the above statement.
It was just Ivan being Ivan tbh.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:00 pm #117449

I'd rather see Basil be the server where we push those PRs labeled "hardcore" on git. And make more of them.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:31 pm #117464

That actually sounds kind of cool. I assume these are extreme lethality changes?

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:46 pm #117468

these are BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL changes.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:52 pm #117471

Oh, gross. I really need to make a Git account

Laharl Monthy · Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:09 pm

...

I'm really starting to think we need ERP-allowed weeks.