Grabbing prisoners from security as a nonantag

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Grabbing prisoners from security as a nonantag

Post by Jacough » #123861

I'm sure we've all experienced this as security. You've got that random shitler or suspected ling/cultist/rev/horse fucker cuffed and you're bringing him to the brig and bam, that random greyshirt who was following you snatches him away because durr "fuck da popo". I imagine that this is generally treated as an IC issue unless it's a recurring behavior with that particular player. The thing is though, where do we draw the line with that kind of behavior? Honestly, I doubt that many of these people give a shit about being thrown in the brig for a couple of minutes. Big whoop, you're in the brig for three minutes. Time to open up a three minute video on youtube to pass the time and get on with it. Unless they're constantly doing doing it through the round, I have a hard time seeing the admins step in to intervene. My question is, should security be able to punish people who pull this shit harshly? There's really no other reason to try to pull this shit aside from being a dick and if you're going to go out of your way to be a dick to security, I think it's only fair that you get a smack down for it.
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Re: Grabbing prisoners from security as a nonantag

Post by Void Slayer » #123865

If someone helps a criminal escape, I consider them an accomplice to the original crime. IF that involves perma then I will ask the captain or HoS to back me up on it. You can also give them a perma sentence, suspend it, then put them on parole, telling them if they do any more major crimes they go right back in.
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Post by onleavedontatme » #123871

Gulag them. Can't afk out of a gulag sentence.
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Post by lumipharon » #123875

Kor wrote:Gulag them. Can't afk out of a gulag sentence.
This is why I love the gulag so much.

It's the ideal shitter filter - shitters won't actually bother to mine, and usually just ghost out.
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Post by CPTANT » #123945

When I bother with them I always give them the same punishment as the original offender (as is in accordance with spacelaw).

Hilarious when you execute or perma them and they go all "NOOOOOOOO I DINDU NUFFIIIIIIIIIIIN".

When the person you are stealing away was dangerous than I might also judge the situation as one involving multiple hostiles and just execute you on the spot.

IC crimes get IC punishment.
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Post by Saegrimr » #123965

I support the whole giving them the same sentence as whoever they're dragging off. Including execution or incineration if they happen to be dragging off a confirmed changeling.
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Saegrimr wrote:I support the whole giving them the same sentence as whoever they're dragging off. Including execution or incineration if they happen to be dragging off a confirmed changeling.
Deadchat gets super-salty when you do this, it's great.
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Post by bandit » #123975

Saegrimr wrote:I support the whole giving them the same sentence as whoever they're dragging off. Including execution or incineration if they happen to be dragging off a confirmed changeling.
BWOINK!
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Re: Grabbing prisoners from security as a nonantag

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bandit wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:I support the whole giving them the same sentence as whoever they're dragging off. Including execution or incineration if they happen to be dragging off a confirmed changeling.
BWOINK!
I executed and gibbed (an eventually proven innocent) guy because of an armblade sting, and all the people who tried to steal the corpse/wordlessly attack me followed him in. No bwoink, let alone bannu
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There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
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Post by peoplearestrange » #124008

I'd support any officer giving the same sentence to a shit tier "accomplice".

But honestly if they keep doing it over and over "for the luls", it be considered grey tiding, so feel free to AHelp that.
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Post by Deitus » #124062

lumipharon wrote:
Kor wrote:Gulag them. Can't afk out of a gulag sentence.
This is why I love the gulag so much.

It's the ideal shitter filter - shitters won't actually bother to mine, and usually just ghost out.
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. even if they dont ghost most of them just try to fuck up the area because they think that'l make us mad somehow, so i just set them to arrest and have the gulag borg keep shitting on them while telling them to stop over the radio. the gulag is literally the best weapon you have as a member of security against greytiders/general shitters, hands down.
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Post by TheNightingale » #124065

Set the gulag Securitron to Detain mode, and have it not report arrests. It'll chainstun anyone on Arrest without clogging up Security comms.
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Post by tuypo1 » #124219

bandit wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:I support the whole giving them the same sentence as whoever they're dragging off. Including execution or incineration if they happen to be dragging off a confirmed changeling.
BWOINK!
well yeah but explain why you killed them and you can go on your merry way.
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Re: Grabbing prisoners from security as a nonantag

Post by ThanatosRa » #124482

Apply baton directly to the forehead then toss them in for the same punishment. Then explain on Sec Channel what and Why, etc, to cover your ass.
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Re: Grabbing prisoners from security as a nonantag

Post by Void Slayer » #125285

Yeah obviously explain why to sec and get permission from captain or HoS for anything major, give them a chance to explain or defend themselves, you know, all the normal stuff your suppose to do during sentencing...

Hell, if people can give a half decent excuse without frothing at the mouth with greytide memes I often let them off.
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Post by Malkevin » #125486

Saegrimr wrote:I support the whole giving them the same sentence as whoever they're dragging off. Including execution or incineration if they happen to be dragging off a confirmed changeling.
I'm not sure why the IC aspect of this is being discussed, Space Law has said this for years. I mean literally before even I touched space law, like for as long as I've been playing.

Personally if someone tries to steal one of my prisoners they're getting batoned to death in the hallway.
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