Uranium Golems

kevinz000 · Post by **kevinz000** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:19 pm #233103

They either need removal, or policy governing mass production. They're a walking debuff that far as I'm concerned would get you banned if you killed them for no reason even if they're radioactive shits who name themselves FRIENDLY GOLEM or what the fuck ever and talk shit about you when they get shot for standing infront of public places and drain everyone's health.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:48 pm #233109

Just kill them, anything from lavaland is free game.

kevinz000 · Post by **kevinz000** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:15 pm #233117

They can be made on station now.

Incomptinence · Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:40 pm

Pro tip tho uranium reactor is baller for free golem exosuits since they are immune.

Post by **Arianya** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:39 pm #233132

Realistically I think this is going to fall under "the sins of the father" where the xenobiologist who made a (if its a station golem) uranium golem gets bwoinked for creating a inherently harmful golem as a non-antag.

Also, aren't sentient "monsters" from xenobio always fine to kill, regardless of their claims of being friendly or not? I may be pulling that out of my ass.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:59 pm #233138

They're still free game.

Post by **Cobby** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:13 pm #233180

> afraid to kill a ghost role even though it's killing you

???

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:15 pm #233181

Uranium golems either ought to be able to toggle the rad generation on or off/wear radsuits.

kevinz000 · Post by **kevinz000** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:33 pm #233188

ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:> afraid to kill a ghost role even though it's killing you

???

Late night no admins
Better safe then banned
Also i kinda feel bad for killing people for standing there

Post by **Cobby** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:45 pm #233191

kevinz000 wrote:
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:> afraid to kill a ghost role even though it's killing you

???
Late night no admins
Better safe then banned
Also i kinda feel bad for killing people for standing there

The best solution is for them to have a irradiate toggle like whoever said above, but that's not a policy problem.

Lumbermancer · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:41 pm

If the default position is to kill them on sight, and they are not antagonists, why are they here in the first place?

Incomptinence · Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:22 am

We should add lead is a mineral and have lead golems block radiation. So they can carry around the uranium god kings safely on palanquins shielding the human peasantry from their radiant royalty.

Post by **Cobby** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:33 am #233396

Lumbermancer wrote:If the default position is to kill them on sight, and they are not antagonists, why are they here in the first place?

Because it's a neat feature, it just needs a tweak.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:18 am #233455

D&B wrote:Just kill them, anything from lavaland any ghost role is free game.

FTFY

I don't think there is a single ghost role that isn't valid.

Lumbermancer · Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:25 am

ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:Because it's a neat feature, it just needs a tweak.

Define "neat".

TheNightingale · Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:08 pm

Grazyn wrote:
D&B wrote:Just kill them, anything from lavaland any ghost role is free game.
FTFY

I don't think there is a single ghost role that isn't valid.

ERT?

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:31 pm #233491

Well admin-spawned ghost roles shouldn't count because it depends on what the admin wants to do with them, like space merchants or other event-related mobs

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:37 pm #233493

Those are valid too but they usually have god mode or strong weapons.

or macro bomb maxcap implants

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:56 pm #233508

Why does the concept of valid still exist. It is obsolete.
I wish.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:58 pm #233510

DemonFiren wrote:Why does the concept of valid still exist. It is obsolete.
I wish.

Not an argument

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:45 pm #233519

D&B wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:Why does the concept of valid still exist. It is obsolete.
I wish.
Not an argument

Argument is not a meme.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:16 pm #233523

I am pretty sure no admin will ban you for killing a uranium golem that is in the process of killing or irradiating you.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:13 pm #233552

bandit wrote:I am pretty sure no admin will ban you for killing a uranium golem that is in the process of killing or irradiating you.

And since its basically impossible for an uranium golem to NOT irradiate people.....

Okand37 · Post by **Okand37** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:25 pm #233553

If you specifically run up to a uranium golem and stalk it then kill it because it was irradiating you, that's just silly.
If a uranium golem does that to you, then that is on them.

Post by **Cobby** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:29 pm #233555

I think this just needs to be handled case-by-case [with heavy leaning on just killing the things if they come in contact with you] until the fundamental issue of being inherently dangerous is addressed [again, not with policy].

TheColdTurtle · Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:45 pm

So just scream at the golems to get out and if they don't just kill them?

Shadowlight213 · Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:35 am

Grazyn wrote:
D&B wrote:Just kill them, anything from lavaland any ghost role is free game.
FTFY

I don't think there is a single ghost role that isn't valid.

Posibrains.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:57 am #233999

Posibrains only become not-valid when put inside a borg or AI though. The posibrain itself, which is the actual ghost role, is valid. I activated a posibrain once only to desconstruct it immediately because I wanted to see if it gave more tech levels than an inactivated one, nobody is gonna bother you for messing around with posibrains, they are cheap and you can always make more.

Incomptinence · Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:57 am

If you go to the lava land bases of non hostile ghost roles and kill them you might be considered a dick, I dunno about anyone stooping that low but it could happen.

kevinz000 · Post by **kevinz000** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:07 pm #234532

Incomptinence wrote:If you go to the lava land bases of non hostile ghost roles and kill them you might be considered a dick, I dunno about anyone stooping that low but it could happen.

:^) repukan rip

Post by **oranges** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:18 pm #234538

jmad did it too

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:07 am #234610

Someone got banned for it last night im pretty sure. They ran in took the disk. I start mining mad they took away reproduction. Guy returns fucking shows up again we tell him to give us the disk back. He starts firing on us unprovoked. I bash his fucking head in. He doesn't have the disk on him. Other miner shows up and kills me because he is a ling. Guy told me in deadchat he fucking killed all the golems because "survival of the fittest" sure jackass you have ranged good job killing the slow moving melee only golems who probably don't have chucking spears.

I get killing the ashwalkers. But i don't get killing the golems.

XDTM · Post by **XDTM** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:56 pm #235398

Sand golems fam, they're immune to KAs

EDIT: nevermind, disk was stolen, i forgot

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:09 pm #235402

>Run up to me with kinetic crusher
>Miss my sprite and create a kinetic field instead
>Wonders why the golems got shot to death

Really makes you think

Post by **oranges** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:00 am #235461

go away you are permabanned

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:23 am #235471

I still enjoy the community even if I'm banned

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:37 am #235511

D&B how did you get banned? How will I ever get materials from mining again?

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:28 am #235526

It was a rule 0 ban, ghost roles are still valid, move along

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:14 pm #236878

Armhulen wrote:D&B how did you get banned? How will I ever get materials from mining again?

I'll be back. Just gotta learn how not to be a prick for a few

Post by **Cobby** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:07 pm #239364

D&B wrote:
Armhulen wrote:D&B how did you get banned? How will I ever get materials from mining again?
I'll be back. Just gotta learn how not to be a prick for a few

just join sybil

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:55 pm #239416

ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:
D&B wrote:
Armhulen wrote:D&B how did you get banned? How will I ever get materials from mining again?
I'll be back. Just gotta learn how not to be a prick for a few
just join sybil

> : (

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:12 pm #239425

Can we not derail this

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:37 pm #239439

fine, back on topic, I really dislike getting irradiated fnr, becoming a golem makes you a hippie catgirl in terms of validity, fuck uranium golems, we should change it.

Incomptinence · Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:43 am

Praise uranium golems. Human vacate golemtopia, begone.

XDTM · Post by **XDTM** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:51 pm #239892

You make uranium golems if too many humans are moonlighting sneaking into your ship to get free minerals and rnd tech.

Cw3040 · Post by **Cw3040** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:29 pm #242240

Here's a good code-based way to resolve this.
Make Xenobio-spawned Golem Shells be incompatible with Uranium. Something about the shell fizzling and sputtering and not coming to life.

But keep them for the Golem Ship Shells.

Post by **Armhulen** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:40 pm #242242

yeah but what about for traitors

i mean uranium golems are sick for traitors

Cw3040 · Post by **Cw3040** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:34 pm #242251

Armhulen wrote:yeah but what about for traitors

i mean uranium golems are sick for traitors

That I don't know. Make some sort of traitor item that can make xenobio golems be inherently harmful to people?

XDTM · Post by **XDTM** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:04 pm #242288

They aren't radioactive if they're dead. If you see them on station they should be murdered on sight, since the xenobio guy definitely had no good intentions when making them.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:07 pm #242559

Cw3040 wrote:Here's a good code-based way to resolve this.
Make Xenobio-spawned Golem Shells be incompatible with Uranium. Something about the shell fizzling and sputtering and not coming to life.

But keep them for the Golem Ship Shells.

How do you make shells in xenobio? The wiki has nothing on it