[Elyina] Bibliodewangus - Elyina permaban for not liking me
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:25 pm
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Byond account and character name: Bibliodewangus, I use random name
Banning admin: Elyina
Ban reason and length: Reason: "Hi tonto, bye tonto"??
Length: forever
Time ban was placed (including time zone):2014-10-10 10:09:16
Your side of the story: Well I logged on today and I was banned for being Tonto. I am Tonto but that alone isn't against your rules. The only time I've broken a rule was when I cut wires in maint, which I legitimately did not understand the consequences of since I never experimented with the power system until then. I'm not on your server owner SoS's never to be unbanned list, heard it straight from the mouths of another admin. I don't really have a story here, I made some mistakes when I played this game two years ago and chose to argue about them and post a bunch of jokes in the forums instead of just taking the permaban. I guarantee the response to this unban (if it's not instantly deleted) is "well Tonto you have to understand what you did is unforgivable and therefore you can never be unbanned." which is funny because I remember there was this guy beardbeard who was banned about 20 times for going on murder sprees and they always gave him a second chance. I got two chances when I first started playing and then because I posted joke appeals it can never be forgiven. I don't really have an argument for this or want to argue it. My position is that I came to this game hearing stories about crazy ways of killing people and all these stories of station going to hell and came for that initially, but I also do enjoy the RP and that is all I've been doing. I haven't played SS13 in atleast 6 months and I came back to check it out and was unbanned from /tg/ (they ban my ckey and everything so someone had lifted it), and so I assumed I could play again and did without saying I was Tonto because if anyone knew what is happening here (permanent ban because Elyina doesn't like me) would be the end result.
The only incident worthy of a serious ban at all (and which Elyina will for sure use as justification when she is forced to respond to this appeal) was me cutting wires in maint. Let's put the cards on the table with that one, I fucked up, fully admit it, was sorry, and took the ban without argument and even apologized. Would anyone else here be permabanned for cutting wires? No. and It was a single incident from me that was done out of ignorance and not malicious intent and I fully owned up to it. Would you permaban me for this?
My other day ban before that for punching out an abusive sec officer who had been ruining multiple people's rounds with constant unfounded searche, arrests, letting them sit in jail while the chaplain says he's going on dates with them etc, that ban I did argue about because I truly feel that after an hour and a half of this constant harassment by the sec officer (including having people hack into our cargo office despite the fact that everytime they asked to come in we let them without a word, not only witnessing and allowing the mime to randomly choke me but running after I start calling for sec, allowing a man who had previously attacked me with a welder cablecuff me and run away with me, finally kidnapping me against a head's orders and not taking me to brig but instead deep inside a random maint tunnel where who knows what she was going to do since a doctor had to rescue me, and that's not even the whole story but I've posted a lot about it already) a physical retaliation was justified. Not killing, but knocking out a sec officer who was acting very much like a cult in a cult round even going as far as to ignore me leading them to a confirmed Head Cultist [which no cult would do, it'd make no sense IC not to mention that you would get banned OOC for it]. So despite all this evidence I was not a cult, they continued to chose to harass cargo and cargo alone using beatings kidnappings and breakins along with other violent tactics to terrorize our department, using only the justification of "well we believed they were cult". Even though I agreed to let the HoS implant me to which he responded to by running away and ignoring me over the radio. Even though I led them to a cultist and all his items. Despite all that there was apparently very solid evidence I was an antag that justified busting through windows and doors in Cargo to wordlessly arrest me then just let me go to do it all over again 5 minutes later. So all of that was ok, but if I punch back it's instantly bannable offense. Ok, fair enough, whatever, this ban can be wholly debated over and over. In summation though, it is not something ANYONE would get perma' d for here. So that incident definitely does not justify this ban.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Well first off since I've come back I've had a lot of fun with a lot of players here and have been involved in some great rounds where the majority of my activity would be for example healing people in medbay and making sure things are up and running. I didn't use a certain character name so people might not be able to recall me right away but I am sure at least 5 people will be able to vouch that they had a lot of fun with Bibliodewangus. Secondly, I don't understand why Elyina HAS to permaban me just for being me. The ban reason does not hold up unless you view it from the perspective that Elyina is holding an, over a year old, grudge over something that happened on a videogame and the associated forums which she happens to be an administrator of.
I believe Elyina has known who I am based on my computer ID ever since I came back, and has just been waiting for a reason to drop the perma and after not finding one in over a week she decides to just perma me anyways. Like a week ago I was told to go to the #banbus channel to talk to admins about a ban I got for punching a security officer who had been harassing me and others all round without explaining why and finally had handcuffed me against a head's orders and then ran into deep maintenance trying to escape the HoP. Whether or not I was at fault in that incident is up for debate, but I would posit that these kind of things are IC issues that happen every day here and 99% of players here (including Elyina) have been a part of in one way or another. Anyways, so I was told to go to #banbus to discuss the ban. I logged into the channel, literally just said "hi i'm here to discuss my ban as a cargo tech from a while ago" and Elyina instantly permabans me from the channel. I asked her in the main /tg/ channel why she permabanned me and she copy pasted a message saying "You are now ignoring Bibliodewangus" and that was it. I asked Scaredofshadows and he said he couldn't figure out why I was banned from that channel. Does that kind of behavior embody someone you would trust in a seat of power? (even though it is just an unpaid videogame administrator, the principle stands and the principle is that was unprofessional) Why would she react so hostilely to someone simply asking to talk about a ban that had already expired? Well she must have known I was Tonto, and this is supported by the way I was permabanned here ie. 1. no one ever spoke to me about it, 2. there is no reason given except "you are you".
So I ask all of you guys, do you think I deserve to be permanently banned? Is the bibliodewangus you've come to know over the past weeks a bad person? Disruptive, and ruining everyone else's fun? If you do, ok fair enough I'll go. I have been having a good time with a lot of people on this server simply through working together to achieve goals for the good of the station. However if due to me posting a bunch of joke threads in the past, you think I can never be forgiven for my videogame crimes, and that I must never be given a chance to play the videogame ever again, then fair enough too.
Byond account and character name: Bibliodewangus, I use random name
Banning admin: Elyina
Ban reason and length: Reason: "Hi tonto, bye tonto"??
Length: forever
Time ban was placed (including time zone):2014-10-10 10:09:16
Your side of the story: Well I logged on today and I was banned for being Tonto. I am Tonto but that alone isn't against your rules. The only time I've broken a rule was when I cut wires in maint, which I legitimately did not understand the consequences of since I never experimented with the power system until then. I'm not on your server owner SoS's never to be unbanned list, heard it straight from the mouths of another admin. I don't really have a story here, I made some mistakes when I played this game two years ago and chose to argue about them and post a bunch of jokes in the forums instead of just taking the permaban. I guarantee the response to this unban (if it's not instantly deleted) is "well Tonto you have to understand what you did is unforgivable and therefore you can never be unbanned." which is funny because I remember there was this guy beardbeard who was banned about 20 times for going on murder sprees and they always gave him a second chance. I got two chances when I first started playing and then because I posted joke appeals it can never be forgiven. I don't really have an argument for this or want to argue it. My position is that I came to this game hearing stories about crazy ways of killing people and all these stories of station going to hell and came for that initially, but I also do enjoy the RP and that is all I've been doing. I haven't played SS13 in atleast 6 months and I came back to check it out and was unbanned from /tg/ (they ban my ckey and everything so someone had lifted it), and so I assumed I could play again and did without saying I was Tonto because if anyone knew what is happening here (permanent ban because Elyina doesn't like me) would be the end result.
The only incident worthy of a serious ban at all (and which Elyina will for sure use as justification when she is forced to respond to this appeal) was me cutting wires in maint. Let's put the cards on the table with that one, I fucked up, fully admit it, was sorry, and took the ban without argument and even apologized. Would anyone else here be permabanned for cutting wires? No. and It was a single incident from me that was done out of ignorance and not malicious intent and I fully owned up to it. Would you permaban me for this?
My other day ban before that for punching out an abusive sec officer who had been ruining multiple people's rounds with constant unfounded searche, arrests, letting them sit in jail while the chaplain says he's going on dates with them etc, that ban I did argue about because I truly feel that after an hour and a half of this constant harassment by the sec officer (including having people hack into our cargo office despite the fact that everytime they asked to come in we let them without a word, not only witnessing and allowing the mime to randomly choke me but running after I start calling for sec, allowing a man who had previously attacked me with a welder cablecuff me and run away with me, finally kidnapping me against a head's orders and not taking me to brig but instead deep inside a random maint tunnel where who knows what she was going to do since a doctor had to rescue me, and that's not even the whole story but I've posted a lot about it already) a physical retaliation was justified. Not killing, but knocking out a sec officer who was acting very much like a cult in a cult round even going as far as to ignore me leading them to a confirmed Head Cultist [which no cult would do, it'd make no sense IC not to mention that you would get banned OOC for it]. So despite all this evidence I was not a cult, they continued to chose to harass cargo and cargo alone using beatings kidnappings and breakins along with other violent tactics to terrorize our department, using only the justification of "well we believed they were cult". Even though I agreed to let the HoS implant me to which he responded to by running away and ignoring me over the radio. Even though I led them to a cultist and all his items. Despite all that there was apparently very solid evidence I was an antag that justified busting through windows and doors in Cargo to wordlessly arrest me then just let me go to do it all over again 5 minutes later. So all of that was ok, but if I punch back it's instantly bannable offense. Ok, fair enough, whatever, this ban can be wholly debated over and over. In summation though, it is not something ANYONE would get perma' d for here. So that incident definitely does not justify this ban.
Why you think you should be unbanned: Well first off since I've come back I've had a lot of fun with a lot of players here and have been involved in some great rounds where the majority of my activity would be for example healing people in medbay and making sure things are up and running. I didn't use a certain character name so people might not be able to recall me right away but I am sure at least 5 people will be able to vouch that they had a lot of fun with Bibliodewangus. Secondly, I don't understand why Elyina HAS to permaban me just for being me. The ban reason does not hold up unless you view it from the perspective that Elyina is holding an, over a year old, grudge over something that happened on a videogame and the associated forums which she happens to be an administrator of.
I believe Elyina has known who I am based on my computer ID ever since I came back, and has just been waiting for a reason to drop the perma and after not finding one in over a week she decides to just perma me anyways. Like a week ago I was told to go to the #banbus channel to talk to admins about a ban I got for punching a security officer who had been harassing me and others all round without explaining why and finally had handcuffed me against a head's orders and then ran into deep maintenance trying to escape the HoP. Whether or not I was at fault in that incident is up for debate, but I would posit that these kind of things are IC issues that happen every day here and 99% of players here (including Elyina) have been a part of in one way or another. Anyways, so I was told to go to #banbus to discuss the ban. I logged into the channel, literally just said "hi i'm here to discuss my ban as a cargo tech from a while ago" and Elyina instantly permabans me from the channel. I asked her in the main /tg/ channel why she permabanned me and she copy pasted a message saying "You are now ignoring Bibliodewangus" and that was it. I asked Scaredofshadows and he said he couldn't figure out why I was banned from that channel. Does that kind of behavior embody someone you would trust in a seat of power? (even though it is just an unpaid videogame administrator, the principle stands and the principle is that was unprofessional) Why would she react so hostilely to someone simply asking to talk about a ban that had already expired? Well she must have known I was Tonto, and this is supported by the way I was permabanned here ie. 1. no one ever spoke to me about it, 2. there is no reason given except "you are you".
So I ask all of you guys, do you think I deserve to be permanently banned? Is the bibliodewangus you've come to know over the past weeks a bad person? Disruptive, and ruining everyone else's fun? If you do, ok fair enough I'll go. I have been having a good time with a lot of people on this server simply through working together to achieve goals for the good of the station. However if due to me posting a bunch of joke threads in the past, you think I can never be forgiven for my videogame crimes, and that I must never be given a chance to play the videogame ever again, then fair enough too.