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[kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:24 am
by Deitus
Byond account and character name: Deitus/Jonathan Talist
Banning admin: Kevinz
Ban type (What are you banned from?): sybil
Ban reason and length: radio spam, perma
Time ban was placed (including time zone): just now
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): sybil
Your side of the story: got bored and decided to do a prank
Why you think you should be unbanned: i wouldnt've even appealed since its worth a few days probably but its perma so i dont have much choice

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:25 am
by kevinz000
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lowered to a day, stop being stupid.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:26 am
by kevinz000
right admins can view the evidence in the deleted post but lowered to a day stop being stupid.
edit: next time will not be so lenient, that's not even funny.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:35 am
by danno
since when is radio spam a permaban
could you not have just killed him or put lava under him or hellwater in him or

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:37 am
by kevinz000
danno wrote:since when is radio spam a permaban
could you not have just killed him or put lava under him or hellwater in him or
I'm making him come to the forums and appeal it so he hopefully learns a lesson to not do stupid things like this when he knows better.
also saying radio spam is an understatement when my client crashed from it a few seconds later and it's warops and he decides this is funny.
he also screamed something about icepacks/brycepax before, so w/e.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:37 am
by D&B
isn't radio spam a good way of crashing the server?

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:45 am
by Togopal
kevinz000 wrote:
danno wrote:since when is radio spam a permaban
could you not have just killed him or put lava under him or hellwater in him or
I'm making him come to the forums and appeal it so he hopefully learns a lesson to not do stupid things like this when he knows better.
also saying radio spam is an understatement when my client crashed from it a few seconds later and it's warops and he decides this is funny.
he also screamed something about icepacks/brycepax before, so w/e.
1. He didnt
2. Are you running on windows 95 wtf

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:46 am
by Nilons
I was under the impression that radio spam just made you valid unless it literally crashes the server, but its not been made clear how spammy it was. Could be good for a policy thread if it hasn't already been discussed

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:51 am
by kevinz000
Yeah but really why do you have a need to spam the chat with atleast 4 pages ever?

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:51 am
by kevinz000
image restored, see that it's not just "radio spam" it's "lets pile bounced radios up and use it to spam everyone to shit!"

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:59 am
by D&B
Didn't rshoe crash hippie like that once?

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:24 am
by cedarbridge
We got multiple ahelps about server lag and client crashes/lag relating to a different radio spammer. It definitely does affect players when there's sufficient spam.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:00 am
by kevinz000
basically making him appeal this is more of "get over here and explain what you did wrong and do not ever do that again" than "actually permabanning him for non crashing radio spam (even though I lagged out from it but that's my bad for running too much shit on a laptop.)". I don't see the issue as I've already lowered the ban and edited his notes to match. Really though, this is just a stupid move, there's no reason to be spamming radio, he knows better, it's in the rules, it's common sense.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:32 pm
by Dax Dupont
danno wrote:since when is radio spam a permaban
could you not have just killed him or put lava under him or hellwater in him or
Problem with that is that massive amounts of spam can also happen when admins aren't around so this behavior should be discouraged like other behavior that will net you a ban or other consequences.

Radio spam makes you valid yes, but most people who spam are smart enough to hide somewhere where you cannot find them as a regular player unless you tear down the entire station.

It's not just the lagging aspect, it also drowns out vital information which can lead to mistakes being made by other players.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:36 pm
by lzimann
Almost all forms of spam are bad, and depending on how far it goes, it is indeed bannable.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:23 am
by Qbopper
also would like to point out that deitus has spammed that phrase in the past and pissed off a good deal of people

the note in question from deitus' sig (dumb edits included)

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I fully expected him to start doing this again at some point

EDIT: also wanted to clarify that I agree with people saying "he obviously hasn't learned" and that's what I was trying to point out - making "u mad bro??" images when you get a slap on the wrist and an admin asks you to stop is a one way ticket to make people dislike you, and it shows that you really don't give a damn what the admins say

if deitus actually had a valid defense about doing this stuff and posted it, then sure, you could argue that kevinz was being a bit harsh, but "lol stop telling me how to have fun!!" type shit doesn't help your case

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:27 am
by Haevacht
Deitus clearly hasn't learned anything. Why is this lifted?

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:29 am
by BeeSting12
Just unperma him with an OOC and IC mute.

Re: [kevinz] Deitus - explaining on the forums

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:14 am
by Nilons
Qbopper wrote:also would like to point out that deitus has spammed that phrase in the past and pissed off a good deal of people

the note in question from deitus' sig (dumb edits included)

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I fully expected him to start doing this again at some point
This tbh, I'm all for sig memes but saying that Kevin hates fun because he daybanned you for spamming shows he has learned literally nothing from this, and that he will only not spam because he knows he'll get in trouble with the big mean admemes instead of knowing it's just a shitty thing to do