[Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

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[Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by CitrusGender » #339849

BYOND Name/Character name: CitrusGender - Ian Smith
Banning Admin: Bobdobbington
Ban type: Server
Ban reason and length: Pile on ick ock that made a bad situation worse. Disappointing. This is a temporary ban, it will be removed in 15 minutes. (expired now, appealing the note)


Time ban was placed (including time zone):2017-09-22 03:11:08
Server: Sybil
Your side of the story: Someone asked about the R next their character during a round. As per similar space station 13 fashion, the entire chat blew up because of such a question being the exact example outline in the rules as WHAT NOT TO DO. I just reacted exactly how we've always react to IC in OOC, never have I seen anyone banned because of reacting to it. Bob then issued a warning AFTER I responded (that I could not even see because his text was green against a whole bunch of green text.)

Why you think you should be unbanned: This is not any different than the response that I get if I was to do something similar. I understand that I may have been a rude but I have seen people do the exact same thing to me when I received and ick ock warning when I was a new player, without those people being noted and me being noted. I am completely fine with the idea of this being something to ban for, but there is NO reference to this being in the rules to respond as such to someone commiting an IC in OOC violation. Additionally, any warning to stop talking was given after I put my message in OOC, there was no indication that what I did was wrong from the admins and I was given no warning to stop (bob's OOC message was hidden throughout a sea of radio text). Again, I completely understand that this is something that people would want to be a rule, but it is currently not outlined in the rules right now therefore making me think that my behavior was acceptable. The ban is likely to be gone now but I just don't think that the ban should be included on my record since the rules surrounding it were not clearly outlined. I'd be happy to oblidge by them in the future, however.

Here's the log for better transparency:
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OOC: CexilOmner: Quick question what's the R next to my character for?
OOC: CitrusGender: W H E W
OOC: Qbmax32: wew
OOC: CitrusGender: W H E W
OOC: CitrusGender: WHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW
OOC: Qbmax32: I REALLY HOPE THATS A JOKE
OOC: Zrelaxio: that's a meme, right?
OOC: Epoc: fucking shit ooc down
OOC: Pdgamer: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
OOC: Zrelaxio: riiiiiiight?
OOC: Bob Dobbington: alright, everyone shut the fuck up, I'll talk to the new guy
OOC: Epoc: you can't?
OOC: Qbmax32: BASICALLY
OOC: Qbmax32: THAT MEANS
OOC: Epoc: seems pretty likely to me
OOC: Qbmax32: YOURE A TYPE OF ANTAGONIST
OOC: Qbmax32: AND UH
OOC: Bob Dobbington: Welp, the ick ock guy disconnected. Thank you all for making an honest mistake much worse and alienating a new player from the server. I will be issuing the standard 15 minute ick ock ban to all of you which piled on.
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock

Post by Cobby » #339851

Why are you appealing a ban that has expired
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock

Post by CitrusGender » #339853

ExcessiveJMadison wrote:Why are you appealing a ban that has expired
I changed around the thread a little bit. I'm appealing the note left by the ban.
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Cobby » #339857

For the sake of not having people interject on this thread because it's acting as a policy discussion, could you make a policy discussion thread as well?
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by CitrusGender » #339859

ExcessiveJMadison wrote:For the sake of not having people interject on this thread because it's acting as a policy discussion, could you make a policy discussion thread as well?
Of course, I can make a policy discussion as well.

Edit: I am inclined to say that, since a policy dicussion thread is required, this means that this instance is not outlined by the rules?
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Bob Dobbington » #339990

Not being the first guy doesn't matter, you were definitely one of the loudest. How is what you were doing somehow less disruptive than the new guy who didn't know what the R symbol meant? You were clearly being a dick, would it be more justifiable as a 15 minute rule 0 ban? I'm not removing this note.
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Cobby » #340000

Are they being banned for Ick Ock or are they being banned for being so disruptive through ICK OCKing that they made someone leave out of embarrassment?
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Armhulen » #340004

I'm okay with this being ban worthy but it's really hard to follow rules the admin makes up on the spot.
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by cedarbridge » #340008

Armhulen wrote:I'm okay with this being ban worthy but it's really hard to follow rules the admin makes up on the spot.
So let loose the hounds, freg. Let them free.
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Cobby » #340010

Armhulen wrote:I'm okay with this being ban worthy but it's really hard to follow rules the admin makes up on the spot.
Which is why they shouldn't of been banned since it was never mentioned prior, unless they were banned because of
ExcessiveJMadison (with minor edits) wrote:being so disruptive through ICK OCKing that they made someone leave out of embarrassment
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Armhulen » #340012

Yeah someone remove the notes of the banned people but from now on this seems like a fair thing to ban for so watch out ooc shitters
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Cobby » #340042

Ahelp if you have the note cuz I ain't lookin for it >:)
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by MrStonedOne » #340054

But, I'm a little confused. We note people for doing things that don't break the rules all the time, spamming/flooding ooc/being disruptive in ooc has gotten people notes before.
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Re: [Bobdobbington] - Pile on ick ock (appealing the note)

Post by Armhulen » #340056

Because the ban shouldn't have happened
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