[jerry derpington] top ten epic gamer pranks gone wrong

[captain sawrge]

Byond account and character name: sawrge, Christmas Holliday
Banning admin: see topic
Ban type (What are you banned from?): The game
Ban reason and length: like a month

Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): bagil (pronounced with soft g)
Your side of the story: fjeld ahelped asking for my static, jerry asked if i consented, I said no and asked who was looking for it and it turned into fjeld pretending to be a crazy stalker ex gf / claiming he was trying to win a bet against someone else while i acted like I didn't know who he was or why he was looking for me
Why you think you should be unbanned:
apparently this somehow sparked a huge argument in adminbus. kor told me that a half hour after it happened he told the admins on discord that it was all fake and we weren't being serious so idk how it escalated this far. apparently ausops also clarified this later on in the evening after i went to bed.

yeah it was a stupid joke and a waste of time but a 34 day ban over it is insane. this was fjeld and i trying to out-dumbass each other. it was not meant to be at the expense of the administration team and we did not intend to target or humiliate anyone.

big apologies to jerry and any other admins that wasted their time on our stupidity

Thanks friends and have a nice day

[Nilons]

Deliberately lying or misrepresenting facts in adminhelps will be dealt with harshly

From the rules page

[Ayy Lemoh]

The month is, at the time I did it, how long I felt it should last so it wouldn't be laughed off since I don't really know how much you two play yet I do know you do sometimes actually play.

Now that I'm not as pissed off and vengeful, lowest I'm willing to go is two weeks otherwise that's up to a headmin. You're an ex-admin, not a fucking normal player who plays the game normally. I shouldn't have to honestly think to myself 'lmao they be joking and shit about this guy being creepy' when I'm talking to someone who I thought that, despite all the shit he has done and got in trouble for, could still be somewhat respected in a way. Clearly I was wrong about the respect.

[iamgoofball]

You wasted administration time by doing your best to convince them that a player on our server was being stalked and in potential danger. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Crying wolf over this shit causes issues if players ahelp about creepy stalkers in the future. You should keep the ban because you very clearly don't understand what is wrong with intentionally misleading the administration about something as important as a potential stalker.

[Ayy Lemoh]

It's lowered to two weeks because of what I said earlier and that some people, excluding sawrge, think it's absurd to ban over a month for this. I also banned Technoalchemist's real account for two weeks so he can't just bypass it. If you ahelp something like this again then I won't change my mind next time.

I also think Techno should pick an account to stay on since this is hypocrisy to allow when we won't let others have alts. EDIT: I decided to pick the one that he chose to run for headmin as.

The appeal is resolved, in my opinion, unless a headmin or a bunch of other admins want to chime in and decide he deserves freedom from the man who can't take a 'prank', bro.

[captain sawrge]

Asking it be left open pending headmin review.

[iamgoofball]

Did techno evade his ban? Might want to check connection dates and up that to a perma if he did.

[Ayy Lemoh]

Nevermind about asking him which ckey he wants to play as since he's running for headmin on his actual account.

[feem]

I resigned because of several admins' refusal to take your actions and their consequences seriously, sawrge, so I'm at least somewhat pleased to see someone's holding someone accountable.

[BeeSting12]

Did techno evade his ban? Might want to check connection dates and up that to a perma if he did.

His only (recent) bans are requested so even if he was evading with fjeld it doesn't really matter.

[BeeSting12]

On topic my two cents is that this is a misunderstanding and a prank gone far. None of you can say you haven't made a meme ahelp, I doubt sawrge thought they'd take him seriously here but they did and it went on for half an hour until Kor cleared it up. No real harm done, let's just unban everyone and put it behind us.

[iamgoofball]

On topic my two cents is that this is a misunderstanding and a prank gone far. None of you can say you haven't made a meme ahelp, I doubt sawrge thought they'd take him seriously here but they did and it went on for half an hour until Kor cleared it up. No real harm done, let's just unban everyone and put it behind us.

Absolutely not. He very clearly knew what he was doing, by claiming it was "just a prank"

Calling something a prank doesn't automatically make it not a prank.

[feem]

^ one of the admins in question

[BeeSting12]

I just don't think it was done with malicious intent and nobody deserves a month for something done without malicious intent.

Calling something a prank doesn't automatically make it not a prank.

what did he mean by this

[Ayy Lemoh]

Beesting, If I made an ahelp like this, I wouldn't be surprised if I was banned for six months.

Yes, I made meme ahelps, but I never lied about stuff that could, at best, be an attempt at metagrudge while sounding serious and going 'This is creepy'

[Slignerd]

Deliberately misleading the administration doesn't seem like something that should be taken lightly.

[iamgoofball]

I just don't think it was done with malicious intent and nobody deserves a month for something done without malicious intent.

Calling something a prank doesn't automatically make it not a prank.

what did he mean by this

Fatfingered that, meant to say:

Calling something a prank doesn't automatically make it okay.

[Armhulen]

I agree with the ban the time seems a bit much

I'm letting jerry be the final decision on if he wants to lower the time and by how much

[Ayy Lemoh]

Despite the fact you are headmin on discord yet not headmin on forums, it's lowered to two weeks - the lowest I am willing to go.

That is all from me.

[Slignerd]

Despite the fact you are headmin on discord yet not headmin on forums

Still a headadmin on the forums.

[Ayy Lemoh]

Despite the fact you are headmin on discord yet not headmin on forums

Spoiler:

fair point slig but it still looks odd.

Enough off topic related stuff, though. Lock the thread.

[PKPenguin321]

to clarify the above, you can choose your "main group" which determines your color on the forms when you post. ive set myself to appear as a forum moderator in the past despite being mainly a game admin.

anyways, locking

[imblyings]

unbelievable

Feem you are partly to blame for this, taking it the worst way in adminbus when apologies were given, not letting go despite everyone in adminbus explicitly saying that they weren't defending it, kor and I having said it was a bad joke/shitposting early on, refusing to do anything but take it completely personally despite advice to the contrary, thinking it was all a personal attack on you and them 'laughing at you', and instead of brushing it off and not letting it affect you, have a part in making jerry here feel it was then a personal attack on him, then do the cheapest thing by using yourself leaving as an ultimatum, then still have the nerve to come back and say this is because '''some admins'''' won't act when in reality the smart thing to do was and is to ignore shitposting and not let it affect you.

It had and has nothing to do with '''wasting'''''' your time, your time is wasted here on ss13 anyway, and for the last time it has nothing to do with defending it,

what happens is, this whole thing helps breed a horrid, unwanted mentality with the admin team where everything is taken as personally as possible and nothing can be let go. It is about the healthiest and most mature reaction possible to things that admins can be encouraged to have and encouraging admins to not flip shit like you did, and make it worse for everyone when drama inevitably happens.