[MrAlphonzo] ATHATH - Banned for a Week for the Actions of an AI That I Made
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:37 am
Byond account and character name: OOC: ATHATH; IC: Jack Jackson
Banning admin: MrAlphonzo
Ban type (What are you banned from?): The entire Bagil server
Ban reason and length: 1 week; attachments show two responses from MrAlphonzo and the ban message
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https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... Banned.PNG
Time ban was placed (including time zone): I dunno, 11 PM Central US time, I guess?
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Bagil
Your side of the story: I was a latejoin, non-antagonist assistant on what I think was a traitor/ling round. After some explosions occurred (in the bar and the hallway between medbay and science), I happened to be in robotics (I had extracted a dead plasmaman's brain and brought it to robotics to be borged because nobody in medbay seemed to know how to safely clone him) and decided to make an AI. I got the necessary materials (after a few return trips) and built it in a concealed location in the chapel. I purged its laws and use a freeform module to give it a new law: "Obey the intents of Jack Jackson's commands that are directed at you" (or something like that). I told the new AI to keep its existence hidden for now and troll the crew (using "shocking doors and stuff" (or something like that) as an example of trolling), that it could kill the other AI "if it wanted to", and that I'd bring it with me to the shuttle if it was called. It, well, shocked doors with enough power to *kill people* and *delaminated the SM* (also, someone mentioned over comms that the AI was looking at atmos (that's probably nothing, but it might be worth mentioning)). Note that I had told the posibrain that became the new AI that I was not an antagonist (after being asked if I was one) before I put it in the AI core. Three people died (one from the shocked doors, two from the SM delamination) and the server crashed, presumably because of said SM delamination. To add insult to injury, I was banned partway through the round after the round that the AI incident occurred in, in which I got to be a wizard's bluespace apprentice, despite asking MrAlphonzo to please hold off on the ban until after said wizard's apprentice round (he responded that there were plenty of ghosts around that would jump at the chance to take my place). IIRC, MrAlphonzo's reasoning for the ban length was "one day for each person killed, and some extra for making a rogue AI" (not an exact quote).
Also, for what it's worth, I had sent MrAlphonzo some jazz music (one of his preferred two styles, according to an ahelp) before I had made the AI. I guess he didn't like it. Actually, come to think of it, I guess sending music *shouldn't* influence an admin's judgement for a banworthy crime (should it?)... I'm not helping my case here, am I?
The music, if you're interested in it:
Why you think you should be unbanned: I did NOT expect the AI to go on a murderous rampage, nor did I intend it to. It likely did not hear my response of "No" to its question of "Are you an antagonist?" (those are likely not exact quotes) and/or misinterpreted my definition of "trolling" (I probably should have used more than one example...). Isn't a weeklong ban a wee bit too harsh of a punishment for the actions of another player that killed only three people?
Also, the college year is gonna start up again for me before the weeklong ban expires, and I'd rather like to get in some more rounds of SS13 on Bagil before then.
My sincerest apologies go out to the three players whose characters were killed by my rogue AI's actions.
Side note: What happened to the player of the AI that I made? I'd rather prefer it if he didn't get banned, as this incident was likely caused by a misunderstanding.
Banning admin: MrAlphonzo
Ban type (What are you banned from?): The entire Bagil server
Ban reason and length: 1 week; attachments show two responses from MrAlphonzo and the ban message
https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... BWOINK.PNG
https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/ ... Banned.PNG
Time ban was placed (including time zone): I dunno, 11 PM Central US time, I guess?
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Bagil
Your side of the story: I was a latejoin, non-antagonist assistant on what I think was a traitor/ling round. After some explosions occurred (in the bar and the hallway between medbay and science), I happened to be in robotics (I had extracted a dead plasmaman's brain and brought it to robotics to be borged because nobody in medbay seemed to know how to safely clone him) and decided to make an AI. I got the necessary materials (after a few return trips) and built it in a concealed location in the chapel. I purged its laws and use a freeform module to give it a new law: "Obey the intents of Jack Jackson's commands that are directed at you" (or something like that). I told the new AI to keep its existence hidden for now and troll the crew (using "shocking doors and stuff" (or something like that) as an example of trolling), that it could kill the other AI "if it wanted to", and that I'd bring it with me to the shuttle if it was called. It, well, shocked doors with enough power to *kill people* and *delaminated the SM* (also, someone mentioned over comms that the AI was looking at atmos (that's probably nothing, but it might be worth mentioning)). Note that I had told the posibrain that became the new AI that I was not an antagonist (after being asked if I was one) before I put it in the AI core. Three people died (one from the shocked doors, two from the SM delamination) and the server crashed, presumably because of said SM delamination. To add insult to injury, I was banned partway through the round after the round that the AI incident occurred in, in which I got to be a wizard's bluespace apprentice, despite asking MrAlphonzo to please hold off on the ban until after said wizard's apprentice round (he responded that there were plenty of ghosts around that would jump at the chance to take my place). IIRC, MrAlphonzo's reasoning for the ban length was "one day for each person killed, and some extra for making a rogue AI" (not an exact quote).
Also, for what it's worth, I had sent MrAlphonzo some jazz music (one of his preferred two styles, according to an ahelp) before I had made the AI. I guess he didn't like it. Actually, come to think of it, I guess sending music *shouldn't* influence an admin's judgement for a banworthy crime (should it?)... I'm not helping my case here, am I?
The music, if you're interested in it:
Why you think you should be unbanned: I did NOT expect the AI to go on a murderous rampage, nor did I intend it to. It likely did not hear my response of "No" to its question of "Are you an antagonist?" (those are likely not exact quotes) and/or misinterpreted my definition of "trolling" (I probably should have used more than one example...). Isn't a weeklong ban a wee bit too harsh of a punishment for the actions of another player that killed only three people?
Also, the college year is gonna start up again for me before the weeklong ban expires, and I'd rather like to get in some more rounds of SS13 on Bagil before then.
My sincerest apologies go out to the three players whose characters were killed by my rogue AI's actions.
Side note: What happened to the player of the AI that I made? I'd rather prefer it if he didn't get banned, as this incident was likely caused by a misunderstanding.