[MortoSasye] Appealing a Day Ban
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:26 pm
Byond account and character name: (NecromancerAnne) Sheness Hollow
Banning admin: MortoSasye
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server Day Ban
Ban reason and length: As a non antag killed the captain for sell "mats" and wasting the credits. Hid the captain corpse in order for them to not get revived. Ban for 1 day.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2018-12-11 09:03:42...server time?
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Bagil
Your side of the story: I certainly killed the captain as the ban suggests but my reasoning was a little bit more pre-meditated and involves a great deal more complexity than merely just the fact that he was selling mats. I was playing shaft miner at the time and me and Mia Mitchell, another miner, had a bit of trouble out in lavaland but managed to haul back a decent amount of mats and survive a run in with a goliath tendril that nearly saw both of us killed and Mia scoring a tarot deck, which she earned through serious risk to her own life. So at this point we had essentially saved each others butts and I was willing to trust her wholly as a result.
I keep tabs on events on the station pretty closely via radio while I go about my job to keep up to date as to what's happening, but while I'm out in lavaland still I noticed people are getting very mad with the captain, who appears to be making some weird and frankly kind of insane responses to people on the station over something he was doing. I hadn't caught what that was at the time until I got back to the outpost. He was in cargo and people in there were getting angry, according to the radio. I come back stationside with my ore box to find him and Mia in a scuffle, and a scientist and the QM off to the sidelines. Additionally, a security detail of two officers and the detective about to step in. The QM is telling the captain to hide in her office. People are yelling at him about materials over the radio. I pull Mia aside after the scuffle to deposit our ore and ask what was happening. Apparently he had attacked her and that he was selling materials from the ORM to fund the purchasing of strange seeds. Personally, I took offense to this as not only had the captain assaulted someone I considered a friend and a person I trusted to help keep me safe, but was also actively screwing over the two departments I was a part of as a shaft miner (cargo and science, frankly the whole station) as well as myself as I would need mats as well for upgrades. It's well established you only sell plasma in order to get credits, and that selling other materials is going to make people exceptionally angry at you. You do that kind of thing at your own risk and as the person who was supposed to bring that stuff up to the station I felt my work invalidated and made considerably more difficult unnecessarily by one mad captain's actions.
The station plainly wanted his blood if he needed a three man security detail and to be locked into the QM's office for his own safety, and I was willing to take Mia's side in all of this because why would I not? The captain clearly had to be lynched and I knew I was the one who could do it as I had found on lavaland the meat hook (which genuinely is a broken, overpowered piece of shit but I digress). I tell Mia the plan and we agree to suggest to the captain that if he wants mats he should come to lavaland to mine them, which Mia manages to convince him to do. It was mostly Mia initiating the lynch and with me being the help. When we get there, Mia lures him into the base and I get into position for a hook. Suddenly, Mia slips him with syndicate soap.
Take note that up to this point I had zero idea Mia was actually a traitor. I absolutely thought I was the one who would have to do most of the work. She hadn't hinted it and I fully trusted that whatever she had done was as a loyalist crew member. But by this stage I was already in the thick of it and I couldn't conceivably back out now, and I definitely wasn't going to turn on Mia over this condom of a captain, so I followed through with the kill by chain hooking the captain and gutting him with a bone knife. When he was finally dead, Mia revealed she was a traitor. I said I was already committed and that it was too late to back out, and noticed the shuttle was recalled. They were coming to get us. I had Mia strip the captain and hide his gear while I clumsy hid the body. Meat hook produces a lot of bleeding. There was an obvious as hell blood trail to the miner's dorms. It was not particularly well hidden and I mostly wanted to put any security on the back foot for Mia to spring an attack if needed. The warden had showed up with a taser and his shotgun, prepped for a fight. Mia engages him with her Guardian Spirit and I stunned him with the meat hook while Mia's Guardian Spirit teleported him into lava. At this point I had already gone further than I had intended in this lynching and Morto had bwoinked me pretty soon after the captain's death, so I already knew I was being watched. I felt bad for what happened to the warden but the vicious cycle of valids means that security was likely to keep coming and unless I allowed them to kill me and put me out of the round permanently I would likely need to keep killing. I chose to stay on the lavaland base while Mia went station side to continue killing sec. She even asked if I wanted to join her and I refused, because I didn't want to go further than it did. I wasn't an antag and I shouldn't be killing en masse.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I felt this was a valid lynching. The captain was being a massive condom and disruptive to multiple departments. And additionally most of this information I was receiving was from a traitor who could easily have been misleading me in the situation in order to get my help. She wasn't, as apparently the captain had absolutely opened fire on personnel who weren't traitors, and he fully intended to sell station materials to fund strange seeds. But from my perspective and as far as I was aware, I was doing the station a service by removing a problem element, and it was mostly as an accomplice to an actual antagonist who through actual in-game roleplay I had established a bond with that preceded the events that took place.
Banning admin: MortoSasye
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server Day Ban
Ban reason and length: As a non antag killed the captain for sell "mats" and wasting the credits. Hid the captain corpse in order for them to not get revived. Ban for 1 day.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2018-12-11 09:03:42...server time?
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Bagil
Your side of the story: I certainly killed the captain as the ban suggests but my reasoning was a little bit more pre-meditated and involves a great deal more complexity than merely just the fact that he was selling mats. I was playing shaft miner at the time and me and Mia Mitchell, another miner, had a bit of trouble out in lavaland but managed to haul back a decent amount of mats and survive a run in with a goliath tendril that nearly saw both of us killed and Mia scoring a tarot deck, which she earned through serious risk to her own life. So at this point we had essentially saved each others butts and I was willing to trust her wholly as a result.
I keep tabs on events on the station pretty closely via radio while I go about my job to keep up to date as to what's happening, but while I'm out in lavaland still I noticed people are getting very mad with the captain, who appears to be making some weird and frankly kind of insane responses to people on the station over something he was doing. I hadn't caught what that was at the time until I got back to the outpost. He was in cargo and people in there were getting angry, according to the radio. I come back stationside with my ore box to find him and Mia in a scuffle, and a scientist and the QM off to the sidelines. Additionally, a security detail of two officers and the detective about to step in. The QM is telling the captain to hide in her office. People are yelling at him about materials over the radio. I pull Mia aside after the scuffle to deposit our ore and ask what was happening. Apparently he had attacked her and that he was selling materials from the ORM to fund the purchasing of strange seeds. Personally, I took offense to this as not only had the captain assaulted someone I considered a friend and a person I trusted to help keep me safe, but was also actively screwing over the two departments I was a part of as a shaft miner (cargo and science, frankly the whole station) as well as myself as I would need mats as well for upgrades. It's well established you only sell plasma in order to get credits, and that selling other materials is going to make people exceptionally angry at you. You do that kind of thing at your own risk and as the person who was supposed to bring that stuff up to the station I felt my work invalidated and made considerably more difficult unnecessarily by one mad captain's actions.
The station plainly wanted his blood if he needed a three man security detail and to be locked into the QM's office for his own safety, and I was willing to take Mia's side in all of this because why would I not? The captain clearly had to be lynched and I knew I was the one who could do it as I had found on lavaland the meat hook (which genuinely is a broken, overpowered piece of shit but I digress). I tell Mia the plan and we agree to suggest to the captain that if he wants mats he should come to lavaland to mine them, which Mia manages to convince him to do. It was mostly Mia initiating the lynch and with me being the help. When we get there, Mia lures him into the base and I get into position for a hook. Suddenly, Mia slips him with syndicate soap.
Take note that up to this point I had zero idea Mia was actually a traitor. I absolutely thought I was the one who would have to do most of the work. She hadn't hinted it and I fully trusted that whatever she had done was as a loyalist crew member. But by this stage I was already in the thick of it and I couldn't conceivably back out now, and I definitely wasn't going to turn on Mia over this condom of a captain, so I followed through with the kill by chain hooking the captain and gutting him with a bone knife. When he was finally dead, Mia revealed she was a traitor. I said I was already committed and that it was too late to back out, and noticed the shuttle was recalled. They were coming to get us. I had Mia strip the captain and hide his gear while I clumsy hid the body. Meat hook produces a lot of bleeding. There was an obvious as hell blood trail to the miner's dorms. It was not particularly well hidden and I mostly wanted to put any security on the back foot for Mia to spring an attack if needed. The warden had showed up with a taser and his shotgun, prepped for a fight. Mia engages him with her Guardian Spirit and I stunned him with the meat hook while Mia's Guardian Spirit teleported him into lava. At this point I had already gone further than I had intended in this lynching and Morto had bwoinked me pretty soon after the captain's death, so I already knew I was being watched. I felt bad for what happened to the warden but the vicious cycle of valids means that security was likely to keep coming and unless I allowed them to kill me and put me out of the round permanently I would likely need to keep killing. I chose to stay on the lavaland base while Mia went station side to continue killing sec. She even asked if I wanted to join her and I refused, because I didn't want to go further than it did. I wasn't an antag and I shouldn't be killing en masse.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I felt this was a valid lynching. The captain was being a massive condom and disruptive to multiple departments. And additionally most of this information I was receiving was from a traitor who could easily have been misleading me in the situation in order to get my help. She wasn't, as apparently the captain had absolutely opened fire on personnel who weren't traitors, and he fully intended to sell station materials to fund strange seeds. But from my perspective and as far as I was aware, I was doing the station a service by removing a problem element, and it was mostly as an accomplice to an actual antagonist who through actual in-game roleplay I had established a bond with that preceded the events that took place.