[StickyMayhem] Maxoesss - one day ban
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:33 pm
Byond account and character name: Maxoesss - Holden Makok
Banning admin: Stickymayhem
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server
Ban reason and length: You have been banned by Stickymayhem from the server.
Reason: Self-Antagged as a roboticist, trying to call the shuttle on a marathon round. When the Captain came back to take them down, killed him.
This ban is temporary, it will be removed in 1440 minutes. The round ID is 110267.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 15:15 cest
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Eventhall I believe
Your side of the story: Station was in a pretty shitty state, round already went for 2 hours and myself and others wanted to call shuttle. I got in my durand, got to bridge, called shuttle. Captain then went full panic mode and called for people to lynch me and shot at me. I shot back, he ran and I fucked off back to robotics. Appearantly he followed me with the warden and they both tried to kill me, in return I killed them. Subsequently I got a rude admin PM and ban because I was told that if the captain wants to kill me I should allow it. I'll post logs below
Why you think you should be unbanned: I just want some clarity on this, it seems silly. Especially since rules seem to state ''If a player wrongs you(theft, attacks, etc), you may retaliate. If you choose to retaliate with violence, you in turn have opened yourself up to violence. If you choose this route, do not expect admins to help you out if you die, even if you were not the original instigator.''
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Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: Why did you kill the Captain
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PM to-Admins: Because he was trying to kill me, did he seriously ahelp that shit?
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: You're an idiot. See you in a day.
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PM to-Admins: For what. Explain instead of being rude
PM to-Admins: He shot me and tried to kill me, what I'm supposed to not respond?
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: You can't self antag just because you have a durand. Why do you think he was shooting at you?
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PM to-Admins: He started with the violence, I called shuttle, then called for lynching me and shot me. What the fuck do you expect
*Payday processed, account now holds $1700.*
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: So you, a random roboticist, went against the Captain to call the shuttle on a marathon round, then killed him when he came back to stop you.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: am I missing something else?
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PM to-Admins: More people wanted to shuttle, but that's hardly self-antagging, it's an IC matter. He chased me through the station to kill me. What I'm supposed to just die at that point?
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: There is pretty much no reason to kill the Captain as a non-antag unless the entire crew is actively rebelling against him and he's clearly ruining everything.
That's not the case here, so as I said, see you in a day.
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PM to-Admins: He got away and I went back to science, he made it all the way here to shoot and kill me. How am I wrong for defending myself in that situation.
PM to-Admins: If some one tries to actively chase and murder you that's valid as fuck. Explain to me what I should've done then, die?
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: Yes actually. IF you've reached the point where your choice is kill the captain or die, you pick die. One ruins a round and one nets you a ban. Sometimes self-defence isn't a good enough reason.
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You have been banned by Stickymayhem from the server.
Reason: Self-Antagged as a roboticist, trying to call the shuttle on a marathon round. When the Captain came back to take them down, killed him.
This ban is temporary, it will be removed in 1440 minutes. The round ID is 110267.
To appeal this ban go to https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=7
Banning admin: Stickymayhem
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server
Ban reason and length: You have been banned by Stickymayhem from the server.
Reason: Self-Antagged as a roboticist, trying to call the shuttle on a marathon round. When the Captain came back to take them down, killed him.
This ban is temporary, it will be removed in 1440 minutes. The round ID is 110267.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 15:15 cest
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Eventhall I believe
Your side of the story: Station was in a pretty shitty state, round already went for 2 hours and myself and others wanted to call shuttle. I got in my durand, got to bridge, called shuttle. Captain then went full panic mode and called for people to lynch me and shot at me. I shot back, he ran and I fucked off back to robotics. Appearantly he followed me with the warden and they both tried to kill me, in return I killed them. Subsequently I got a rude admin PM and ban because I was told that if the captain wants to kill me I should allow it. I'll post logs below
Why you think you should be unbanned: I just want some clarity on this, it seems silly. Especially since rules seem to state ''If a player wrongs you(theft, attacks, etc), you may retaliate. If you choose to retaliate with violence, you in turn have opened yourself up to violence. If you choose this route, do not expect admins to help you out if you die, even if you were not the original instigator.''
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: Why did you kill the Captain
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: Because he was trying to kill me, did he seriously ahelp that shit?
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: You're an idiot. See you in a day.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: For what. Explain instead of being rude
PM to-Admins: He shot me and tried to kill me, what I'm supposed to not respond?
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: You can't self antag just because you have a durand. Why do you think he was shooting at you?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: He started with the violence, I called shuttle, then called for lynching me and shot me. What the fuck do you expect
*Payday processed, account now holds $1700.*
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: So you, a random roboticist, went against the Captain to call the shuttle on a marathon round, then killed him when he came back to stop you.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: am I missing something else?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
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PM to-Admins: More people wanted to shuttle, but that's hardly self-antagging, it's an IC matter. He chased me through the station to kill me. What I'm supposed to just die at that point?
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: There is pretty much no reason to kill the Captain as a non-antag unless the entire crew is actively rebelling against him and he's clearly ruining everything.
That's not the case here, so as I said, see you in a day.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: He got away and I went back to science, he made it all the way here to shoot and kill me. How am I wrong for defending myself in that situation.
PM to-Admins: If some one tries to actively chase and murder you that's valid as fuck. Explain to me what I should've done then, die?
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Stickymayhem: Yes actually. IF you've reached the point where your choice is kill the captain or die, you pick die. One ruins a round and one nets you a ban. Sometimes self-defence isn't a good enough reason.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
You have been banned by Stickymayhem from the server.
Reason: Self-Antagged as a roboticist, trying to call the shuttle on a marathon round. When the Captain came back to take them down, killed him.
This ban is temporary, it will be removed in 1440 minutes. The round ID is 110267.
To appeal this ban go to https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=7