[MortoSasye] Skarrj - Temporary Server Ban

[skarrj]

Byond account and character name: Ckey: Skarrj / IC: Rick Smith
Banning admin: MortoSasye
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Server, tempban
Ban reason and length: Week Ban / Ban baiting - Ahelped being killed by the chefs, said the captain told them they were food but never mentioned the fact that they stunned them with the boxing gloves, set them on fire, and continued to punch them down. You have an awful record, read our rules; next time will be probably a permaban with how bad it is.
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 7:30 pm (PDT)
Server you were playing when banned: Bagil
Your side of the story: The Captain (Korol Konlet) randomly knocked me out at round start with a pair of boxing gloves for no reason while I was in the bar and I wasn't able to fight back because I was trying to run away. Later in the round he was back in the bar so I threw a lighter at him and it lit him on fire. Then after he puts it out, he starts shooting me with a disabler and cutting me with his sabre after pushing me onto the chef's desk. I crawl to the other side and then he tells the chefs I'm food, and one of the chefs kills me after the other tells him not to. I report it to the admins, and then the admin (Morto) bans me for apparently permastunning the Captain with boxing gloves while he was on fire, which was 100% not the case. He clearly didn't read the logs at all or something.

Here are a copt/paste of my round logs; https://pastebin.com/jVRdz4at

Why you think you should be unbanned: I didn't do what I was accused of.

[MortoSasye]

I edited the note shortly after to reflect the fact that you didn't punch them with the punching gloves as I thought (i was reading his attack logs instead of yours):

Banned from the server for 1 week - Ban baiting - Ahelped being killed by the chefs, said the captain told them they were food but never mentioned the fact that they stunned them with shoves and set them on fire You have an awful record, read our rules; next time will be probably a permaban with how bad it is.

However, the fact still remains that you ahelped the situation that you started and the ban will remain. Ahelping being killed by the chefs, then telling me the cap told them they were food to THEN once again tell me at the last minute that you set them on fire breaks the following rule and it's the reason why I treated this as ban baiting:

6. In-game administration rulings are final.
Incidences of admin abuse, negligence or disputed rulings can be taken to the forums. If an admin says something was 'looked into, handled, resolved' etc, regarding an issue, it is unlikely an admin will provide any further information. Admins are under no obligation to reveal IC information. Deliberately lying or misrepresenting facts in adminhelps will be dealt with harshly.

This are the logs of the ahelp i had with you:

[2019-08-26 02:16:53.167] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #5: Skarrj/(Rick Smith): The chefs are killing me for no reason.
[2019-08-26 02:17:12.119] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge)->Skarrj/(Rick Smith): Did you interact with them in any way?
[2019-08-26 02:17:32.707] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): Not at all. I was thrown into the kitchen by the Captain who said I was "food" and then Jerry killed me after the other chef said not to.
[2019-08-26 02:17:56.429] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): Now the other chef is gibbing me anyways.
[2019-08-26 02:18:26.975] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge)->Skarrj/(Rick Smith): Why did the captain say that?
[2019-08-26 02:18:52.987] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): I threw a lighter at him and it lit him on fire and then he started shooting me with a disabler and slashing me with his sword.
[2019-08-26 02:20:32.006] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge)->Skarrj/(Rick Smith): You kept them permastunned while they were on fire. You realize that what you just did is ban baiting right?
[2019-08-26 02:21:43.113] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): I did not keep them permastunned and idek what ban baiting is. I've never heard that term before.
[2019-08-26 02:23:00.877] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge)->Skarrj/(Rick Smith): Ok so i'm going to ban you for blatant ban baiting for a week due to your already awful history. You started a fight with the captain by punching them with the gloves, knocking them out, setting them on fire and continuing to keep them perma stunned.
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- Next time you do this it will be a permaban. Read our rules. // I was wrong here because i read the wrong attack logs
[2019-08-26 02:23:31.136] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): Wtf are yout alking about?? The Captain randomly punched me with gloves and knocked me out at round start for NO reason
[2019-08-26 02:23:41.475] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): You're DEFINITELY misreading the logs.
[2019-08-26 02:23:52.435] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Skarrj/(Rick Smith)->MortoSasye/(Bella Rouge): I've not had boxing gloves all fucking round. I never touch those =_=

And the ones where you attacked them:

Spoiler:

[2019-08-26 02:15:47.464] [2019-08-26 02:03:47.870] ATTACK: Jackrip/(Korol Konets) has punched (boxing) Skarrj/(Rick Smith) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 127, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:03:47.871] ATTACK: Jackrip/(Korol Konets) has knocked out (boxing) Skarrj/(Rick Smith) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 127, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:03:48.771] ATTACK: Jackrip/(Korol Konets) has punched (boxing) Skarrj/(Rick Smith) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 127, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:03:48.773] ATTACK: Jackrip/(Korol Konets) has knocked out (boxing) Skarrj/(Rick Smith) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 127, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:03:49.644] ATTACK: Jackrip/(Korol Konets) has punched (boxing) Skarrj/(Rick Smith) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 127, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:03:49.645] ATTACK: Jackrip/(Korol Konets) has knocked out (boxing) Skarrj/(Rick Smith) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 127, 2))

ATTACK: Skarrj/(Rick Smith) has thrown the cheap lighter (Bar (131, 128, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:15:47.618] ATTACK: Skarrj/(Rick Smith) has threw and hit Jackrip/(Korol Konets) with the cheap lighter (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (131, 128, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:15:54.911] ATTACK: Skarrj/(Rick Smith) has shoved Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (NEWHP: 97.6) (Bar (131, 126, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:16:01.827] ATTACK: Skarrj/(Rick Smith) has shoved Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (NEWHP: 92.3) (Central Primary Hallway (127, 133, 2))
[2019-08-26 02:16:02.755] ATTACK: Skarrj/(Rick Smith) has shoved Jackrip/(Korol Konets) (NEWHP: 90.8) (Central Primary Hallway (127, 132, 2))

You did this 13 minutes later after your interaction with the captain, this isn't valid escalation at all. And not only that but the punching gloves don't do any damage only stun people, and you replied to this by setting them on fire and trying to keep them from extinguishing themselves. You also have a really heavy history, so that's the reason why this ban got upgraded to a weekban.

For all of the reasons above, I won't lift this ban. But, I do want to inform you of the fact that you got a permaban made by another admin shortly after this because you talked about the round in discord.

Logs are from: https://tgstation13.org/raw-logs/basil/ ... 8/game.log

and https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/bas ... attack.txt